Don't laugh but if they're going to legalize a drug it would be a lot better to legalize cocaine than marijuana. Cocaine is cleaner healthier and gives you a little bit of a lift and energy. Marijuana stays in your system. And you're smoking it so it's got all the lung problems. Of course anything can be overdone including cocaine.
I'm a constitutionalist and believe in Liberty and freedom. I don't think you should outlaw things for everybody just because a few people are idiots and they abuse them.
During the '80s one of the reasons cocaine became very popular was it was a very clean healthy drug compared to the marijuana that all the hippies smoked in the 60s and '70s and the 80s was all about ditching the hippies image. People were tired of the dirty hippie image.
Cocaine is medicinal it gives you a little energy and unless you abuse it it has very little side effects. Like anything else if you abuse it it's going to have medical consequences just like marijuana. Just like anything else.
But marijuana stays in your system long after you invite it which means you're driving with it and you're doing everything else with it. And because people think marijuana is harmless they tend to smoke way too much of it. and I think Ann Coulter did a great piece on how marijuana can make you psychotic. She talks about the horrible murders people do when they're on marijuana because they sort of disconnect from reality and theyll just take a person's body apart.
When I talk about cocaine use I'm talking about at the levels like the natives use in Columbia when they're chewing leaves which let them work at high altitudes all day long. It's just another form of energy drink and it doesn't have the heart stimulating repercussions that overdose of caffeine can do. If you don't know too much caffeine can kill you because it interferes with your electrical signals in your heart and could cause you to go into random heart rhythms.
But cocaine doesn't do that. It certainly not at low levels.
Anyway it's just I'm really tired of everybody making laws to stop everybody from ever doing anything. Just because a couple of people might abuse it. The way to handle that is to make the people who abuse it pay for their own damn treatment. One of the big problems we have is we have all these insurances and we have all these other things that cuddle people who abuse things. Hell one of the nicest spas you can go to are these drug rehab centers half the time and half the time all this insurance pays for it and we're supposed to feel good about coddling a whole bunch of people who don't know when to quit.
So this really stems more from the fact that I'm really tired of people's liberties being taken away rather than I think people should go out and use cocaine because I don't. But you also shouldn't be prevented from taking a hit of cocaine if you want to get through the day. Just like you can go buy an energy drink and you can overdose on energy drinks and die. If you don't believe it look at Panera bread that used to sell high caffeinated iced teasing things right in the store and tell people started overdosing on the caffeine and dying.
LSD is another one. LSD has been said by many of the people who used it like Steve Jobs and others that it transforms their view of the world and life and that persists after the drug has worn off. And that sounds like a pretty fantastic thing for people to experience and it shouldn't be illegal to try it. It's ridiculous.
We really need to go back through all these regulations that make everything illegal and just get rid of them all. The anti second amendment laws the anti-drug laws the anti this and that and the other thing laws. We just need to get rid of all these Nanny state laws.
Fuck. It’s all bad now. I was hooked on the Vicodin and Norco shit for about ten years. Ten years ago I quit it all, right about the time the fent star died getting into the pills. I was like, hell no, I’m not going out that way.
When I was in rehab, a awesome teacher, 45 years sober, lost everything in Helene but his truck, wife and dog. He was saying nearly every powder drug today tests positive for fent. Even Marijuana. You have zero idea what you're getting and dealers don't give a fuck at all. Fake pills, fake everything. Designer drugs. Horrific shit. Best play advice is to not to. Course there's still good pure stuff out there but you'll never know the people that sell it because a, too expensive and b, they don't wanna know you.
Fuck. I'm sorry to hear that. I encountered wet two times in my youth. Nasty fucking shit and I never talked to those people again after telling them what they're selling and they are morons.
Yes. Or chem. It had pcp laced into it with embalming fluid. Mid grade bud that was very dark and almost oily and smelled of chemicals with dots of white on it. Never happened to me before til I was about done with it all. It was getting way top dangerous. Not just jail but some of the people that I associated with were full on psychopaths.
I'm not sure I follow. I've been to rehab and I don't think drugs are cool. Indeed I have history with them and I have views on them. However like I said the best thing with drugs is not to play the game.
That's what the book from the early 2000s "Layer Cake" is getting after. Main protagonist is a 30 year old coke dealer. Selling kilos a week. To others to distribute. Has his money clean in offshore accounts and legitimate businesses. Keeps a personal stash of pure flake cocaine for special occasions. Says once the government actually understands how much money they could make they won't leave it to the likes of him. They'll intentionally let the trade get so bad people will beg for it to be regulated. Imo. We're right on time.
If it was legal more jews could get rich off it. Its bad enough we have to put up with them parasitizing us through alcohol addiction.
How about we eliminate drug use instead of doing things to make drug addiction a more viable lifestyle!
This shit is destroying our fucking civilization and making criminal spics wealthy off of our illness.
You can have a successful society. Or you can have a society full of addicts. The two are mutually exclusive. How much more of our collective economic resources musts be sacrificed because junkies!? Given the choice Id rather put a bullet in every one of their heads than keep an army of coke heads on life support at the expense of the rest of us! We can eliminate drug use at any fucking time we want.
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Nah, hot peppers are the best thing ever. Still have around 15 plants from last year, but am finally doing superhots again too. Favorite is still a thin walled little firecracker called Goat's Weed.
Dude. What's your problem? I genuinely don't understand why someone would come here to the backwaters of the internet and antagonize other members that likely agree with you on a great many topics? Indeed I used to troll idiots on reddit back during coontown days and fatpeople hate but never here or old voat. If you're trying to be edgy or some stupid shit you're not. Comments here are basically stay away from fucking drugs and you're dumbass comes in with "kill yourself." "You got addicted to a substance at one point." To be as great as you. This place has been more welcoming and more uplifting to me when ive reached out for help and comradierie. There's also nothing wrong with saying you fucked something up and you're trying to fix it and get right. You are the user that puts people off.
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I mean. I leave most of the jew, bean, jeet, chink shit to other users. I appreciate what they post. I'm jus the somewhat chill guy that posts cars, books, insights, games sometimes and of course skateboarding to give some variety. To our usual cycle. I've never understood goats that wanna go after other goats.
"But marijuana stays in your system long after you invite it which means you're driving with it and you're doing everything else with it. And because people think marijuana is harmless they tend to smoke way too much of it. and I think Ann Coulter did a great piece on how marijuana can make you psychotic. She talks about the horrible murders people do when they're on marijuana because they sort of disconnect from reality and theyll just take a person's body apart."
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Yeah, can't tell you how many times I've smoked a joint, and then BAM! next thing I know I'm elbows deep in some woman's chest cavity.
The correlation between cannibis use and psychosis is well established and I knew a few people with schizophrenia who became schizophrenic because of their pot use.
In fact my one friend who swears pot made him schizophrenic says one hit will cause him to have a relapse.
If you don’t know whether you have a genetic allele which predisposes you to develop schizophrenia then smoking pot is truly russian roulette.
I smoked for a while in my 20s. I never felt I was going schizophrenic on it, but it had a terrible effect on me in retrospect. It was terrible for my anxiety. I can’t believe I smoked it as much as I did. It was a bad drug for me. It made me feel physically horrible. It made me fucking twitch. Its not safe.
Your friend is a retard who is making shit up. And if weed made you twitch, there was more than weed involved.
Nope. Not a retard at all. A very intelligent and honest person who had his life ruined by pot. And he is not the only person to tell me such a story.
And if weed made you twitch, there was more than weed involved.
Incorrect. Its a well known phenomenon caused by cannibis. Frankly Im surprised you don’t already know about it.
Yeah, some people get anxious. They are anxious people to start with.
You mean like half of all white people? Its a bad drug for a lot of people .
light paranoia.
Yeah no thanks. Crippling anxiety at times. Also leaden like physical feeling like it was difficult to move my body. Extremely energy draining. Massive inertial burden. Im not the only person with these symptoms. I had a lot of bad side effects from that drug.
Did you search cannibis shakes, or weed shakes. They are heavily documented and not caused by adulterants but weed itself.
I must have known 5 or 6 schizophrenics well over the years and the majority of them attribute heavy pot use as the trigger of their first psychotic episode. There are tons of studies on the subject which all support cannibis use being a risk factor.
Youre relying heavily on your anecdotal experience as the only source you give credence to while dismissing other people’s anecdotal experience out of hand as “bull shit” or whatever. Very biased.
The thing about weed is it's not just 'weed'. There are around 30 different types of effects from different types of strains. When it's grown for sale, weight is usually the first consideration. The type of high is more of an afterthought as long as it's strong. Not that you should start smoking weed again, but other types might have had a completely different effect.
Its not like I only smoked it once or twice. Alot of my friends smoked so I really wanted to fit in. I gave it the old college try. I thought I might get used to it if I used it more. It worked a little. But mostly it was fucking awful. I guess I liked smoking it if I was totally alone and didn’t have to deal with anyone socially. But even then I would have to take it with a beer to take the edge off. One day I was like “What am I doing? I hate this shit.” And that was it. I believe I may be hypersensitive to it.
Watch a video on how they refine cocaine back in the jungle and you won't have that opinion any more. Either way, pot dealers and coke dealers should get the rope.
Coke is a dirty, sneaky drug, IMO. People always hide while they’re physically doing it. It looks gross snorting something. And people don’t act happy whilst on blow…they act like know-it-alls while perpetually sniffing, grinding their jaws, doing weird stuff with their lips and rubbing their noses. Yuk.
Dumb. Drug addiction is a negative sum game. All economic resources which go to producing drugs are diverted from more productive behaviors, like building houses or roads or growing food. The tax can never make up for that loss in productivity. Addicts are diverted from being productive workers so drugs are destroying your labor force. Nobody thinks through what drug use does to the economy. Everyone is an economic loser except for the drug dealers who are of course a pack of parasites who contribute nothing but disease and dysfunction.
Nothing works in Portugal since Philiip the Navigator. They are an economic joke that freeloads off more productive european countries. I wouldn’t copy any of their policies.
You don’t have a right to ruin the economy that the rest of us have to support by being a drug addict. Sorry. Fuck your selfish junkie rights. What is this, Boomer misconceptions 101? ‘Liberty” comes at the expense of efficiency, always. I draw the line at you being a junkie parasite at civilization’s expense.
Yes, you conflate legalization with a bad economy and therefore your solution is to fuck kver everyone's constitutional rights.
Drugs are not dangerous especially with common sense discussion.
Hamburgers, cigarettes, liquor and automobiles are more dangerous. Are you Banning everyone from driving or high cholesterol? Nope. Because it is stupid.
If people want to kill themselves or fuck up their own lives, it's not your place to step in.
If you stop in to control when I cook a steak I'd knock you the fuck out.
I am also a Constitutionalist, and unwaveringly believe that every law is a restriction of somebody's rights. This includes laws like murder and all the sex laws.
However, there are reasons to have a certain set of laws to construct a society, but those laws need to be approved by the vast majority of people, not just 435 clowns that represent 350 million people.
Without drug laws it would seem capitalism would take over and the cleanest shops would gain the most customers and risks would be very low. But the (((government))) and zogbots want their slice of the pie.
On the flip side, how well studied is any scheduled drug? Long term affects are not really known, and it looks like peak lifespan happened (in the US) around 2000, with a generation prevented from using recreational drugs. Correlation only, but it is interesting to me.
Anyone that claims marijuana disconnects and makes people psychotic clearly has never smoked it before.
The feeling of marijuana is more akin to taking some migrain medicine to alleviate a migraine. If you are feeling stressed smoking it will decompress. If your anxious and you smoke it it can aleviate the anxiety.
Ive never witnessed somebody become psychotic from smoking weed. They were already psychotic to begin with and would avoid giving them anything especially alcohol.
Here is how to make cocaine: 9it isn't...uh...clean)
Cocaine production is a multi-stage chemical process that transforms coca leaves into the stimulant drug, cocaine hydrochloride (powder cocaine) and crack cocaine . 1. Coca Leaf Harvesting and Initial Processing:
Coca leaves are harvested from the coca plant, primarily cultivated in the Andean region of South America (Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia). The harvested leaves are then often macerated and soaked in a solvent, typically gasoline, to extract the cocaine alkaloids.
2. Coca Paste Production:
The solvent, now containing the alkaloids, is separated from the leaves. The solution is then treated with chemicals like sulfuric acid, lime, and cement, further extracting the cocaine alkaloids and producing coca paste. Coca paste is an intermediate product containing a high concentration of cocaine alkaloids but is not pure cocaine hydrochloride.
3. Cocaine Base Production:
Coca paste is treated with additional chemicals like hydrochloric acid and other solvents to create cocaine base. Cocaine base is a purer form of cocaine but is still not the hydrochloride salt.
4. Cocaine Hydrochloride Production (Powder Cocaine):
Cocaine base is dissolved in a solvent like ether or acetone. Hydrochloric acid is added to precipitate cocaine hydrochloride, the powder form of the drug. The cocaine hydrochloride is then filtered, dried, and packaged.
5. Crack Cocaine Production:
Crack cocaine is typically made by dissolving cocaine hydrochloride (powder cocaine) in a mixture of water and baking soda. The solution is boiled until the cocaine forms an oily substance that solidifies into rocks upon cooling. These rocks are known as crack cocaine and are smoked.
Important Notes:
The entire process is complex, dangerous, and involves numerous hazardous chemicals. Cocaine production is illegal in most countries due to its harmful and addictive nature. Cocaine sold on the streets is often cut with other substances (adulterants) to increase profits, further increasing the risks to users.
Cocaine ruines lives m ore than marijuana, it is extremely addictive and the addaptive response in your system is permanent( unless you take other drugs to fix it like feverfew and corydalis). I have known loads of cocaine addicts and it is insidious. Slave powder is to control people like politicians and is evil. Marijuana can have niche medical uses ( like some parkinsons patience) but is bad for causing schizophrenia. Cocaine is worse in my experience, I have seen loads of people and known dealers very well so got deep in that community and marijuana at worse makes someone annoying but cocaine will make them kill people
So it's now legal. That implies regulation. Safety and compliance.
Who is going to do the regulation? The gov that hates you, murders with shots and bioweapons, and now contaminating the chicken, beef, and pork with self-replication mRNA poisons?
Keep in mind half of Congress and most of the three letter agencies are involved in the drug trade and so opiates, fent, etc have all happened with their full knowledge.
I think cocaine became popular in the 80's because it was funding the Nicaraguan Contras. CIA/Media was putting a healthy spin on the drug to make it appealing for consumers.
I don't like the idea of government banning things but society is also full of idiots, you need to be able to stop someone else's stupidity from impacting you which isn't currently the case.
Government (or somebody) has to enforce accountability. Drug addiction destroys civilizations. It does so economically. Weve run our country into the ground by eliminating accountability of behavior and drug use is the perfect example of why we are deteriorating as a civilization. Drug addiction incurs an expense and that expense is spread over the entire economy. Somebody has to stop people from harming the rest of us. This is not a victimless crime. You should not mind the government banning things that are harmful to all of society.
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When I was in rehab, a awesome teacher, 45 years sober, lost everything in Helene but his truck, wife and dog. He was saying nearly every powder drug today tests positive for fent. Even Marijuana. You have zero idea what you're getting and dealers don't give a fuck at all. Fake pills, fake everything. Designer drugs. Horrific shit. Best play advice is to not to. Course there's still good pure stuff out there but you'll never know the people that sell it because a, too expensive and b, they don't wanna know you.
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Thinks the drugs he was in rehab are cool.
Protip - rehab didnt work.
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When he's talking to Duke about pill prices is fantastic.
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How about we eliminate drug use instead of doing things to make drug addiction a more viable lifestyle!
This shit is destroying our fucking civilization and making criminal spics wealthy off of our illness.
You can have a successful society. Or you can have a society full of addicts. The two are mutually exclusive. How much more of our collective economic resources musts be sacrificed because junkies!? Given the choice Id rather put a bullet in every one of their heads than keep an army of coke heads on life support at the expense of the rest of us! We can eliminate drug use at any fucking time we want.
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No one can access my back yard garden space.
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So long as it's not all day every day use.
So long as they don't get weed love and think it's the best thing ever and it's OK to roast every hour and live in a fucking stupor.
They gotta understand long term abuse of delta 9 thc does cause problems.
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Also called Black Cobra, because they go from green to black to red.
As for regular weed, it's legal to grow 6 plants here.
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Go finish the job.
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Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Yeah, can't tell you how many times I've smoked a joint, and then BAM! next thing I know I'm elbows deep in some woman's chest cavity.
That's cannabis for you!
Fucking retards.
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Total nonsense.
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If you don’t know whether you have a genetic allele which predisposes you to develop schizophrenia then smoking pot is truly russian roulette.
I smoked for a while in my 20s. I never felt I was going schizophrenic on it, but it had a terrible effect on me in retrospect. It was terrible for my anxiety. I can’t believe I smoked it as much as I did. It was a bad drug for me. It made me feel physically horrible. It made me fucking twitch. Its not safe.
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Yeah, some people get anxious. They are anxious people to start with.
Most I've ever seen was a guy puked once.
Anything past a bit of light paranoia or anxiety is complete bullshit. And, again, those things are already there to start with.
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Nope. Not a retard at all. A very intelligent and honest person who had his life ruined by pot. And he is not the only person to tell me such a story.
Incorrect. Its a well known phenomenon caused by cannibis. Frankly Im surprised you don’t already know about it.
You mean like half of all white people? Its a bad drug for a lot of people .
Yeah no thanks. Crippling anxiety at times. Also leaden like physical feeling like it was difficult to move my body. Extremely energy draining. Massive inertial burden. Im not the only person with these symptoms. I had a lot of bad side effects from that drug.
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I have never in my great experience with cannabis, and cannabis users, seen anything like what you describe.
This is probably a usa (they put stuff on your weed) problem.
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I must have known 5 or 6 schizophrenics well over the years and the majority of them attribute heavy pot use as the trigger of their first psychotic episode. There are tons of studies on the subject which all support cannibis use being a risk factor.
Youre relying heavily on your anecdotal experience as the only source you give credence to while dismissing other people’s anecdotal experience out of hand as “bull shit” or whatever. Very biased.
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Either way, pot dealers and coke dealers should get the rope.
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That, alone, is worth it.
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Nothing works in Portugal since Philiip the Navigator. They are an economic joke that freeloads off more productive european countries. I wouldn’t copy any of their policies.
You don’t have a right to ruin the economy that the rest of us have to support by being a drug addict. Sorry. Fuck your selfish junkie rights. What is this, Boomer misconceptions 101? ‘Liberty” comes at the expense of efficiency, always. I draw the line at you being a junkie parasite at civilization’s expense.
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The bottom line is there is drug policy, literally any drug policy, that is superior than the current scenario.
The war are drugs is not about keeping people safe.
It's about maximizing black market profits while invading personal freedom.
Your solution sucks, frankly.
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Drugs are not dangerous especially with common sense discussion.
Hamburgers, cigarettes, liquor and automobiles are more dangerous. Are you Banning everyone from driving or high cholesterol? Nope. Because it is stupid.
If people want to kill themselves or fuck up their own lives, it's not your place to step in.
If you stop in to control when I cook a steak I'd knock you the fuck out.
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However, there are reasons to have a certain set of laws to construct a society, but those laws need to be approved by the vast majority of people, not just 435 clowns that represent 350 million people.
Without drug laws it would seem capitalism would take over and the cleanest shops would gain the most customers and risks would be very low. But the (((government))) and zogbots want their slice of the pie.
On the flip side, how well studied is any scheduled drug? Long term affects are not really known, and it looks like peak lifespan happened (in the US) around 2000, with a generation prevented from using recreational drugs. Correlation only, but it is interesting to me.
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[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 1 point 1 dayMay 26, 2025 21:28:27 ago (+1/-0)
The feeling of marijuana is more akin to taking some migrain medicine to alleviate a migraine. If you are feeling stressed smoking it will decompress. If your anxious and you smoke it it can aleviate the anxiety.
Ive never witnessed somebody become psychotic from smoking weed. They were already psychotic to begin with and would avoid giving them anything especially alcohol.
[ + ] HelenHighwater
[ - ] HelenHighwater 1 point 2 daysMay 26, 2025 18:01:23 ago (+1/-0)
Cocaine production is a multi-stage chemical process that transforms coca leaves into the stimulant drug, cocaine hydrochloride (powder cocaine) and crack cocaine
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1. Coca Leaf Harvesting and Initial Processing:
Coca leaves are harvested from the coca plant, primarily cultivated in the Andean region of South America (Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia).
The harvested leaves are then often macerated and soaked in a solvent, typically gasoline, to extract the cocaine alkaloids.
2. Coca Paste Production:
The solvent, now containing the alkaloids, is separated from the leaves.
The solution is then treated with chemicals like sulfuric acid, lime, and cement, further extracting the cocaine alkaloids and producing coca paste.
Coca paste is an intermediate product containing a high concentration of cocaine alkaloids but is not pure cocaine hydrochloride.
3. Cocaine Base Production:
Coca paste is treated with additional chemicals like hydrochloric acid and other solvents to create cocaine base.
Cocaine base is a purer form of cocaine but is still not the hydrochloride salt.
4. Cocaine Hydrochloride Production (Powder Cocaine):
Cocaine base is dissolved in a solvent like ether or acetone.
Hydrochloric acid is added to precipitate cocaine hydrochloride, the powder form of the drug.
The cocaine hydrochloride is then filtered, dried, and packaged.
5. Crack Cocaine Production:
Crack cocaine is typically made by dissolving cocaine hydrochloride (powder cocaine) in a mixture of water and baking soda.
The solution is boiled until the cocaine forms an oily substance that solidifies into rocks upon cooling.
These rocks are known as crack cocaine and are smoked.
Important Notes:
The entire process is complex, dangerous, and involves numerous hazardous chemicals.
Cocaine production is illegal in most countries due to its harmful and addictive nature.
Cocaine sold on the streets is often cut with other substances (adulterants) to increase profits, further increasing the risks to users.
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 0 points 1 dayMay 26, 2025 20:07:31 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 2 daysMay 26, 2025 17:48:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] OftenWrong
[ - ] OftenWrong 0 points 1 dayMay 27, 2025 10:53:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 1 dayMay 26, 2025 22:00:06 ago (+0/-0)
Instead of legalising cocaine, make testosterone far easier to get. Put it in food, drinks, and shampoo.
[ + ] autotic
[ - ] autotic 0 points 1 dayMay 26, 2025 21:34:43 ago (+0/-0)*
Who is going to do the regulation? The gov that hates you, murders with shots and bioweapons, and now contaminating the chicken, beef, and pork with self-replication mRNA poisons?
Keep in mind half of Congress and most of the three letter agencies are involved in the drug trade and so opiates, fent, etc have all happened with their full knowledge.
Don't be a dumbass.
[ + ] bohmoonx
[ - ] bohmoonx 0 points 1 dayMay 26, 2025 21:24:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] JoesLegHair
[ - ] JoesLegHair 0 points 2 daysMay 26, 2025 17:20:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 daysMay 26, 2025 19:28:16 ago (+1/-0)
Weve run our country into the ground by eliminating accountability of behavior and drug use is the perfect example of why we are deteriorating as a civilization. Drug addiction incurs an expense and that expense is spread over the entire economy. Somebody has to stop people from harming the rest of us. This is not a victimless crime. You should not mind the government banning things that are harmful to all of society.