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[ - ] Cantaloupe 2 points 5 hoursMay 25, 2025 11:43:01 ago (+2/-0)*

Best for men - cohabitating - using contacts in lieu of a marriage license

Nevada
Florida
Tennessee
Arizona
Missouri
Indiana
Alabama
North Carolina
Mississippi

Worst
California
New Jersey
Washington
Colorado
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Oregon
Pennsylvania
New York

Instead of marriage license

Cohabitation agreement
Division of property - before, during, after relationship
Financial responsibilities
Debt Obligations
Exit plan if relationship ends (no alimony)
What happens to shared purchases (cars, homes, etc)


The good states have no common law marriage, state marriage-theft laws are not applied to you just for living together, and you don't have to pay for kids that aren't yours. Check the latter carefully

You can have a wife and kids without the state making it a ménage à trois

[ - ] Storefront 1 point 4 hoursMay 25, 2025 12:14:14 ago (+1/-0)

Marriage is a major investment, greater than your home or other assets. I'm a big believer in it, but it's a huge commitment and you have to make your property "attractive" on both sides. I'm also a huge believer in pre-nups, just to outline clear boundaries, as in "you cross this line and I will divorce you," not just disposition of assets.

It's not just about love. It's a lifelong economic, emotional and spiritual partnership. Many women and some men make the mistake of thinking it is 100% about emotional love and everything else (like being two different religions or on opposite ends of the spending spectrum) will work itself out if "love" is there.

Life is extremely hard. Picking one brother or sister combatant to be by your side for the whole thing should be treated with the dignity it deserves. "Modern" women are wrong to treat it with laissez Faire attitude, focusing on the Disney like romance, ring and dress only. Modern men are wrong for going along with this fantasy or not digging deep enough for the good woman to ride shotgun with, rather falling into promiscuity and other hollow comforts.

The fag shit was also another way to treat marriage with little seriousness. But I do believe it's possible we are entering a new conservative age and good strong marriages will rise again.