"It's the biggest scam ever put on the American public [Lasik Eye Surgery]... and it's a multi-billion dollar business." - Upgoat

"It's the biggest scam ever put on the American public [Lasik Eye Surgery]... and it's a multi-billion dollar business."
submitted by paul_neri to Health 11 hoursMay 24, 2025 06:56:08 ago (+23/-1) (www.dailymail.co.uk)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14741503/lasik-eye-surgery-patients-police-officer-suicide-ryan-kingerski.html

[ - ] observation1 0 points 6 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:57:30 ago (+0/-0)

FTA "The percentage of those with poor outcomes are in the double digits, not one percent,' she added. 'And they know it.' "

[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 6 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:36:17 ago (+0/-0)

Well, felt a little ill while reading.

[ - ] dassar 0 points 43 minutesMay 24, 2025 17:58:26 ago (+0/-0)

Morris Waxler, 89, was the former head of the Food and Drug Administration branch responsible for reviewing data and approving the Lasik operation decades ago - a decision he now regrets.

Bwahahahahahaha - you silly goyim.
'Of course i regret it .... now. But at this point, what does it matter. Teh heh heh.'

[ - ] ModernGuilt 1 point 10 hoursMay 24, 2025 08:34:43 ago (+1/-0)

The entire idea is stupid. Why would any retard sign up for it?

[ + ] NeverHappened

[ - ] NeverHappened 0 points 5 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:48:00 ago (+0/-0)

I didn't have it but two of my sisters have had the procedure. People do it b/c having poor vision really sucks. Mine is bad enough that when I wear glasses I have almost no peripheral vision. Contacts can be a real pain. I have astigmatism in both eyes so it was very hard to find a lenses that won't pop out. I hate touching my eyes and leave the lenses in until they feel uncomfortable and then put new ones in. I've heard the horror stories about leaving them in but it's been over 20 years I've been doing it this way.

[ - ] Prairie 2 points 10 hoursMay 24, 2025 08:35:03 ago (+2/-0)

As you age the range of distances you can focus decreases, eventually such that you can't read things up close and see things far away, perhaps neither is in focus. Lasik just shifts this range, so you'll still need glasses eventually. At that point, what was the point of the surgery? You risked a lot for temporarily not needing glasses.

[ + ] glooper

[ - ] glooper 3 points 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:05:58 ago (+3/-0)

Somewhere around 40 Years of age, the human eyeball changes, starts to elongate and it changes the focal point of the eyes. Ever human goes through this.

DO NOT GET LASIK TILL AFTER THIS HAPPENS. Lasik is a perm procedure and if you do it young, you'll fook up your eyes once they hit that magic 40 years range.

There is no going back with lasik.

[ - ] TheYiddler 2 points 8 hoursMay 24, 2025 10:25:09 ago (+2/-0)

I had wondered about this. Why do so many people still wear glasses if this surgery is so amazing? Especially figures on television.

[ + ] dassar

[ - ] dassar 0 points 38 minutesMay 24, 2025 18:03:41 ago (+0/-0)

Cost, risk/ benefit, and preference or just simply never thought about it.

[ - ] VitaminSieg 2 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:05:29 ago (+2/-0)

Do eye exercises, goats.

[ + ] NeverHappened

[ - ] NeverHappened 0 points 5 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:56:47 ago (+0/-0)

Which ones do you recommend? Admittedly I probably haven't committed enough to see results but I've tried a few things including the sun viewing which I really did not like.

[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 6 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:30:54 ago (+2/-0)

Well vaccines are multitrillion dollar business, so its not the biggest scam. The bank owner is pointing to the bank thief as a public enemy.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 3 points 11 hoursMay 24, 2025 07:18:44 ago (+3/-0)

I'm kind of stunned to see that the way they use the laser is to point it directly into the eye. This is a UV laser that is strong enough to burn tissue from the cornea so of course it would cause problems if you're shining that intense a UV light directly into your retina

[ + ] bonghits4jeebus

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:35:22 ago (+1/-0)

I believe they use it to cut or "shave" the lens of your eye. It's not shined directly into the pupils or whatever to burn them out.. Or the complication rate would be higher.

They used to do it with scalpels. Maybe someone still does.

IANA doctor.

[ - ] TheNoticing 3 points 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:28:49 ago (+3/-0)

Getting LASIK was the best decision I've ever made, absolutely worth the $4500 I spent.

[ - ] Panic 3 points 8 hoursMay 24, 2025 10:25:13 ago (+3/-0)

After a catastrophic head injury 20 years ago, my lenses were shattered. Ouch! I had no useful sight, just grayness. Went to an eye clinic and had lenses replaced plus they cut one cornea to end my astigmatism. Best eyesight of my life. No more glasses either. Nice.

Lasik? Never.

On related note, infants laid only on their backs never get near-sightedness, nor misshaped faces or long heads.

[ + ] NeverHappened

[ - ] NeverHappened 0 points 5 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:55:04 ago (+0/-0)

? Infants laid only on their backs can definitely get misshapen heads. In fact, outside of torticollis, I know of no other reason for a healthy child to have a misshapen head other than too much time on the back. I'm not sure what you mean about the face/long head thing. I do know using sippy cups/bottles and only soft foods will screw up the face. It's why there are so many weak-jawed, mouth-breathers around. Easy to give the kid a sippy and chicken nuggets.

Glad your vision issues got resolved.

[ - ] shitface9000 3 points 5 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:51:17 ago (+3/-0)

i met a guy who got the surgery and had to constantly put drops in his eyes, headaches, shit like that. fuck no.

[ - ] Leveraction 4 points 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 08:47:12 ago (+4/-0)

YOU ARE CORRECT!!!

I've had lasik eye surgery 3 times. Immediately after the surgeries I could see great. What these liars don't tell you is that it wears off in a short few years. By then, you don't have enough cornea left to do an enhancement.

My eyes are as bad and worse than before the lasik surgery.

DO NO WASTE YOUR MONEY!!

[ + ] bonghits4jeebus

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 2 points 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:37:29 ago (+2/-0)

Yeah I have heard that. It seems easier to wear contacts.

[ + ] GreenSaint

[ - ] GreenSaint 1 point 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:07:29 ago (+1/-0)

Aw man. My coworkers friend or cousin or something got that done he seemed excited to tell me how much better he could see. You know I just feel like by the time I’m in my 60s or 80s or whatever we’re gonna have robot eyes. We’re gonna have completely replaced teeth too. And nano bots. My mom’s friend just got lung cancer she can’t breathe. It sucks. Don’t smoke.

[ + ] rzr97

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 6 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:18:40 ago (+1/-0)

Your mom's friend should be doing the Joe Tippens protocol, Ivermectin and high dose intravenous vitamin C. https://mycancerstory.rocks/81-2/

Likely doing a ketogenic diet, metformin and the new glp-1s like tirzepatide help. There's another thing that removes sugar from the blood stream too. That pathway is for not giving your cells sugar to feed. Cancer loves sugar.

[ + ] NeverHappened

[ - ] NeverHappened 0 points 5 hoursMay 24, 2025 12:49:20 ago (+0/-0)

Agree. I think the reason chemo sometimes works is b/c of the appetite suppression/ fasting.

[ + ] KosherHiveKicker

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:19:49 ago (+0/-0)

[ + ] Leveraction

[ - ] Leveraction 3 points 4 hoursMay 24, 2025 14:01:40 ago (+3/-0)

I was young and healthy when i had this done. The eye docs had an obligation under their ethics to explain that it is NOT permanent and over time your eyes will go back to the way they were or worse. In my case, its worse. It is NOT worth a TEMPORARY fix. Had they devuldged this information, i would NOT have subjected my eyes nor my back acct. This is false advertising!!!

[ - ] rabidR04CH 4 points 8 hoursMay 24, 2025 10:09:19 ago (+4/-0)

I warned my mother about doing it. Fortunately, it seems that nothing went wrong in her case.

[ + ] Bottled_Tears

[ - ] Bottled_Tears 0 points 2 hoursMay 24, 2025 15:49:46 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah it changed my mom's life. She hasn't needed glasses since.

[ - ] Moravian 4 points 8 hoursMay 24, 2025 10:41:49 ago (+4/-0)

There must be many factors in this procedure. My wife had this done in 08 and never had any problems and her nearsight was fixed. We also followed the proper after care which required wearing sun glasses and avoiding going outside. I can just imagine the calibration required for the machine and if you have sub-humans involved there will be inherent problems.

[ + ] PostWallHelena

[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:18:15 ago (+3/-0)

I was wondering how many of these bad procedures were performed by pajeets.

[ + ] Empire_of_the_Mind

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 3 hoursMay 24, 2025 15:40:05 ago (+0/-0)

What I heard for years was that it was a very reliable procedure provided you didn't try to cheap-out on it.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 10 hoursMay 24, 2025 08:09:09 ago (+5/-0)

Guess Ill think twice about getting it.

[ + ] bonghits4jeebus

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 4 points 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:32:46 ago (+4/-0)

The thing about me is I know I'd be the one to have complications. It's happened to me with less important surgery. I don't heal very well. For some reason.

[ + ] Sleazy

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 4 hoursMay 24, 2025 14:02:24 ago (+0/-0)

Cause you expect complications

[ + ] KosherHiveKicker

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 1 point 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:21:23 ago (+1/-0)

Your eye shape changes over time, due to ageing, blood pressure, and etc.

The Lasik procedure works fine. It's just that when your eye health changes then the Lasik's correction isn't going to change correctly with it.

Just be sure that you get your eyes checked for a few months-years prior to the procedure to make sure they aren't slowly changing.

[ + ] dassar

[ - ] dassar 0 points 43 minutesMay 24, 2025 17:59:14 ago (+0/-0)

Except if this case the guy was only 26 - so it wasnt that.

[ + ] Engrishishard

[ - ] Engrishishard -1 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 10:52:24 ago (+0/-1)

Errybody hear dat she say she go think twy. Woman think twy yeah dont think so lady. Maybe start out think one time

[ + ] PostWallHelena

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:16:13 ago (+2/-0)

Gee haven’t seen you around in a while

[ + ] Engrishishard

[ - ] Engrishishard 0 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:37:39 ago (+0/-0)

Herena i needja to rearry risten to me

[ + ] PostWallHelena

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 7 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:39:25 ago (+0/-0)

Uh-huh

[ + ] Engrishishard

[ - ] Engrishishard 0 points 6 hoursMay 24, 2025 11:58:29 ago (+0/-0)

Remember jim morrissin in the door movie when he go in to record his poetry and he say no music no door?

[ - ] Reunto 5 points 8 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:52:46 ago (+5/-0)

If poor vision has resulted from an underlying health condition, all the gimmicky surgeries in the world won't stop that poor vision from reoccurring.

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 6 points 9 hoursMay 24, 2025 09:31:38 ago (+6/-0)

It’s not bigger than covid/jabs

[ - ] registered_bot 6 points 8 hoursMay 24, 2025 10:16:12 ago (+6/-0)*

The surgery was originally much better when the doctors used mostly scalpels. A laser would only be used to "shape" the eyeball after a doctor opens the first thin flap of the eye with a scalpel and flips it over.

It's all done with a laser now so a competent doctor doesn't need to do it any more. Any random fuckstick doctor can buy the equipment then start charging $3,000 an eye. Takes minutes, and he can fit in 20 or so a day if he pushed hard.

It's once again turned into a money making scheme. A competent doctor with a scalpel had success rates close to 90% percent. And the fails left the patients eyes about the same as they were before the surgery.

Now that it's all lazy doctors just trying to make money it's gotten really bad.

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