Correct. "My gun always jams." ... no, you've got a limp wrist.
But easier to not mess up when not under stress ... hence the need for more training. Unfortunately, most departments don't have the budget for training ... so unless a cop has personal interest to get better ... it won't happen. On average, police departments do a REALLY poor job of gun training.
Unfortunately, that's far from the truth. On both counts.
Training is expensive. First thing that gets cut in the budget is bullets, range time, and paid time at the range. SWAT guys do much better, but still not enough.
So, unless the cop is also a "gun guy" who has personal interest in it and wants to do it on his own time ... the training is a joke and this shows in all the police stats. Most departments report <30% hit rates. So >70% of bullets fired by police are not hitting their intended targets.
Its cool to hate on cops but nobody here can name a class or occupation more versed. Even soldiers I trust only with an AR or rifle, but cops, hands down, will smoke any random perp at the range with a handgun. And 5x that when it comes to firing under pressure.
This guy actually did pretty fuckin good. I think the criticism is more aimed at the unfortunate aspect of the semi auto. A revolver wont jamb, for example, but becomes a throwing weapon after 6 shots.
I'm also constantly gobsmacked on how many rounds it takes to stop a human.
Blood pressure is one hell of a drug. It takes a while to lose enough pressure to pass out.
That's why proper shot placement (central nervous system) ends gunfights far faster than just random hits to center body ass. And the more powerful the caliber the less important shot placement becomes.
That and it's safe to assume that 70% of the bullets fired (based on typical police department averages) didn't strike the target. Hitting the wall, cars behind, or other people, etc.
Cop was doing weird shit. He seemed calm but he for some reason reloaded after 8 rounds, he didn't put the mag in properly, then he charged it when it was already loaded. Then had to load a 3rd mag. He also swapped his gun to weak side. Lots of things wrong he got so lucky.
I love it when our bloodthirsty pigs get a fresh kill. My favorite part was when he cleared the jam and unloaded into the fucker after he was down and dying. I would have done the same to a Non-white who shot me.
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper 8 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 16:20:48 ago (+8/-0)
All actions done seemly correct, yet they go sideways more times then you would think...
Edit: I'm also constantly gobsmacked on how many rounds it takes to stop a human.
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 5 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 16:43:21 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] stillmostlyfriendly
[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 3 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 16:53:13 ago (+3/-0)
But easier to not mess up when not under stress ... hence the need for more training. Unfortunately, most departments don't have the budget for training ... so unless a cop has personal interest to get better ... it won't happen. On average, police departments do a REALLY poor job of gun training.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 16:52:33 ago (+1/-1)
Nerves are what you can't train for.
[ + ] stillmostlyfriendly
[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 2 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 16:59:31 ago (+2/-0)
Training is expensive. First thing that gets cut in the budget is bullets, range time, and paid time at the range. SWAT guys do much better, but still not enough.
So, unless the cop is also a "gun guy" who has personal interest in it and wants to do it on his own time ... the training is a joke and this shows in all the police stats. Most departments report <30% hit rates. So >70% of bullets fired by police are not hitting their intended targets.
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 17:05:49 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:28:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:34:42 ago (+1/-0)
This guy actually did pretty fuckin good. I think the criticism is more aimed at the unfortunate aspect of the semi auto. A revolver wont jamb, for example, but becomes a throwing weapon after 6 shots.
It's complicated.
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:38:34 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:42:52 ago (+1/-0)
I need to go spend some more time in the range.
Exciting how he was reloading right when that guy burst out, and then he smoked him. Like a john wick scene.
This also tells the story of why 3 mags isnt enough.
So much to learn from these.
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 3 points 10 hoursMay 2, 2025 17:16:42 ago (+3/-0)
Blood pressure is one hell of a drug. It takes a while to lose enough pressure to pass out.
That's why proper shot placement (central nervous system) ends gunfights far faster than just random hits to center body ass. And the more powerful the caliber the less important shot placement becomes.
[ + ] stillmostlyfriendly
[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 1 point 10 hoursMay 2, 2025 17:24:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:40:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 0 points 2 hoursMay 3, 2025 02:01:18 ago (+0/-0)
Body mass is just the torso, very little of which contains the spinal cord. Even shooting someone in the heart is not an instant death.
[ + ] PoundOfFlesh
[ - ] PoundOfFlesh 1 point 8 hoursMay 2, 2025 19:31:05 ago (+1/-0)
Where was the human? I only saw a nigger.
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 1 point 7 hoursMay 2, 2025 20:32:31 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] JewTooFew
[ - ] JewTooFew 5 points 9 hoursMay 2, 2025 18:46:18 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] TheNoticing
[ - ] TheNoticing 3 points 11 hoursMay 2, 2025 16:22:52 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] OoklaTheMok
[ - ] OoklaTheMok 3 points 12 hoursMay 2, 2025 15:55:11 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 7 hoursMay 2, 2025 20:17:28 ago (+1/-0)*
News story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbdm7q2uWFE
[ + ] Questionable_2
[ - ] Questionable_2 1 point 9 hoursMay 2, 2025 18:32:38 ago (+1/-0)*
Edit: was the suspect a woman?
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:51:17 ago (+0/-0)
You gotta give it to them. They really know what to do in a gun fight.
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 6 hoursMay 2, 2025 21:30:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 8 hoursMay 2, 2025 19:38:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] registered_bot
[ - ] registered_bot 0 points 10 hoursMay 2, 2025 17:53:42 ago (+0/-0)