If you're a kid just getting out of high school in America because of the tax system the number one thing you need to know is save money by living dirt cheap stay out of debt including college debt and invest invest invest because America does not tax capital gains but it taxes the hell out of incom
Get the cheapest living situation you can. Stay at home with your parents it's better to work a $40,000 your job living with your parents save every penny and put it into some stocks then it is to get a 60 or an $80,000 a year job and be renting an apartment with all the utility and other expenses associated with that and not have as much money saved and not be able to invest in stocks because it's not what your income is every year it's how much you invest in stocks that gets you rich. In America the tax system is set up for capital gains you pay almost no taxes you pay nothing if you don't sell and most people who have investments never sell they just borrow against them so they never pay taxes. The big mistake in America is to think I want to get the highest paying job I can but what you actually want to do is take home the most cash you can and invest it in stocks immediately never hold it in cash. never hold it in cash it goes down in value as cash you don't want a fat bank account with 10 20 30 50 100,000 in it. You want all that money and stocks. If you're not a good stock picker first of all don't trade that's just wasting your money but if you're not a person who can figure out a couple of good stocks to buy then put it into a no load mutual fund or some kind of an index fund.
If you do that for 5 years you will be so far ahead of the game than the person who went to college took on 50 to 100,000 in debt one out got a new car got a loan on the car got a job for 110 $150,000 a year. You will be way ahead of them in your first five years. If you really want to go to college later after you've got a stock portfolio built up and you really want to waste your money on doing that and you really think the incremental amount of money that you're going to make in another job is going to be better then you can always go back to college later. And believe me you'll appreciate it a lot more if you go back later than you will as a stupid drunk teenager.
that's what I tell everybody who is Young and it's the best advice. Live with your parents as long as you can. If you can't live with your parents and save money that way live unconventionally like live out of a bus do the van life get a good camper van live out of a camper van all these silicone valley millionaires we're living out of the back of box trucks and things and if they can do it and become billionaires then you you have no excuse not to do it yourself to save money. You save on utilities you don't have to hook up with three or four or five utilities are going to charge you monthly no matter how much you use you save on rent you save on insurance you save on all that stuff. And it's also more fun because you can you're mobile and you can live anywhere you want anytime during the week.
Get yourself some sort of a shower deal at a gym that's how you take care of your showers if you don't need to shower any day everyday anyway people shower way too much. Unless you're doing some sweat breaking job you don't need to shower everyday.
This is what you need to do to get ahead of America it's all about owning stuff and having it go up in value it is not about earning income. If you do the math on the graphs you'll find that if you save money early and invest it you're after tax wealth and I'm talking about wealth not income not anything else you're after tax wealth will be much higher if you got a lower paying job spent no money on living expenses and put it put that into stocks or something like stocks. Don't be an idiot. Don't follow the Jew path to unending salaried servitude.
You're also better off because you'll have more time off you'll be able to do more physical fun things like travel and stuff when you're young when it matters. then you will if you go to college and then you've got to work like a slave to pay off your college debt and you're stuck getting an apartment it's overpriced so it's hard to pay off your college debt and you have to work every day at a job that pays you hire money than everybody else wants because you can't afford to take the lower paying job that will give you more free time because you've got all those bills to pay every month and you'll be a slave for the next 20 years of your life and then when you're 45 if you're lucky you'll be free of your debt slavery if you're lucky most people aren't that lucky.
Capital Gains taxes are considered part of your income. You are taxed just as much on those as regular wages. Line 7 of your 1040: you list your capital gains and that gets added to line 1a which are W2 wages. All that gets added together for line 15, taxable income.
You then need to go to 1040 Line 16 (Tax) and then you need to do the Schedule D worksheet. In the worksheet, it will calculate the proper tax you owe for the long term and short term, which then goes to Line 16 as the final calculated / computed tax amount. You would think Line 16 is just a computation of the tax bracket and taxable income that you are in (like 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, 37%) but if you have long term gains, you would pay less tax than your tax bracket rate says (long term capital gains are taxed usually at 15%), which then makes your line 16 amount smaller.
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Tax table has income taxed at less than 15% up to taxable income of 70k. Capital gains would have you taxed at 15% up to about 500k-600k depending on filing status that's true. However, where would you get that money to invest with? If you are a young person starting out income under 70k is taxed at a lower percentage than capital gains.
Not only that but to even qualify as a long term capital gain you have to own the asset for over a year. How are you going to fund your monthly living expenses as a young person starting out with assets you've owned for more than a year if you don't even own assets yet?
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Credit cards are like modern day shackles. My best advice to any young adult is to never spend money they can't cover UP FRONT. NEVER OWE ANYONE MONEY. I've made it pretty damned far living with this philosophy.
I see people stressed the fuck out over car payments and shit like that. It must be rough, especially with a family or a spouse who spends frivolously. I think simply having a credit card encourages you on a subconscious level to use it. Why not, you'll ask yourself. And it might start out just fine, but like most bad shit, it tends to escalate and grow out of control.
No. Get into a trade school and live cheap and save all you can while working some little shit job until you graduate. Then once you start working a real job making decent money save a down payment for a house and land and buy it. You have to have home base. Then you branch out, start investing and all that.
If you can't stay at home while saving money, look into van living. With good thinking and planning you can live rather nicely. They even have internet, gaming pcs, ac/heat, television, showers, and flush toilets.
They let you move wherever you need in luxury, be it to a new job or a mate's party. Or that one girl's place you know.
Don't be an idiot. Don't follow the Jew path to unending salaried servitude.
Also don't become complicit with modern jewish society by (((investing))) in jewishness, or by paying 'income taxes'. You'll be financing your own oppression and corruption if you do. Live free, young man.
Disclaimer: The life of the jewish collaborator is often easier and more profitable, with the one major downside being the expense of your soul.
You've really been on the "Wage Slave" kick again. Seems like when someone asks how to avoid paying income tax you give non-answers or tell them to be their own boss. What recommendations do you have for normal people with normal jobs to not have to pay income tax?
You've really been on the "Wage Slave" kick again.
True. I tend to be too much of an optimist, despite knowing better. Yes, be your own boss. At least in the sense of providing for yourself without being a tool someone employs. Once you do accept the programming to be a normal person with a normal job, there you are.
Nevermind my rants about people being better than they've been programmed to be. I'm just idealizing a past life that's apparently no longer accessible.
We're all tools, yourself included lol. And no particularly useful advice then. Okay, thanks.
Judging by my recent tax return, the niggers have it figured out. I only made $15k last year and we got almost $10k back in Federal and State d/t refundable credits.
Ha ha cool story, Bro. I had no idea the returns would work out that way but maybe I will plan to utilize this in the future. So if you are saying taxes are evil then you don't buy or own anything yourself? Or is it just income tax that is evil in your mind?
The evil is on a spectrum. Income taxes in particular are used to finance evils around the world and here in the US. Income tax payers are guilty of every crime they've helped pay for.
If this mentality helps you sleep at night then more power to you but it is a stupid opinion. You make unnecessary distinctions so that you feel good, or superior, about your own life choices. I'm sure I speak for more than just myself here when I say I grow tired of your unhelpful and judgy comments. Everyone here knows taxes are bullshit and money is fake and ghey.
I personally have tried not filing income taxes or paying real estate taxes for a number of years and in both instances it did not work out well for us. If you have some actionable advice I would love to hear it.
I am (unfortunately) in the medical field; other than perhaps switching to a consultative role or opening a private practice I fail to see how I could be anything other than a tool someone employs. I don't want to work other than on my own family/land so there's no way I would be interested in the responsibility of finding my own work. My time is my most valuable commodity so I'm not going to waste it chasing sheckles.
My hopium is of the AI variety. We already live in a post-scarcity world so if enough people wake up things might actually really improve.
It's true that I make life choices that I believe are good and superior. Ignoring the typical programming that promotes a life of wage slavery and tax paying to one's owners is one of those choices. The structure of society is quite clearly (and metaphorically) ranchers and cattle. It's a dynamic that says nothing good about either side, although choosing subservience is particularly repulsive.
Everyone here knows taxes are bullshit and money is fake and ghey.
Then how is continued participation in one's own oppression and self-denigration rationalized? But you're right. I'm wasting my time and might as well being trying to [aphorism about pointless endeavors].
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It's literally nothing the world rst thousands and none of you don't sell the stocks.
Even after you reach max untaxed sale it's still nothing compared to how salaries are taxed.
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Shamelessly stolen from someone else responding to an idiot that doesn't understand long term capital gains are taxed lower than income.
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Not only that but to even qualify as a long term capital gain you have to own the asset for over a year. How are you going to fund your monthly living expenses as a young person starting out with assets you've owned for more than a year if you don't even own assets yet?
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I see people stressed the fuck out over car payments and shit like that. It must be rough, especially with a family or a spouse who spends frivolously. I think simply having a credit card encourages you on a subconscious level to use it. Why not, you'll ask yourself. And it might start out just fine, but like most bad shit, it tends to escalate and grow out of control.
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It's means general stocks.
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If you can't stay at home while saving money, look into van living. With good thinking and planning you can live rather nicely. They even have internet, gaming pcs, ac/heat, television, showers, and flush toilets.
They let you move wherever you need in luxury, be it to a new job or a mate's party. Or that one girl's place you know.
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Was great inside too. All you need.
You don't need a big empty apartment.
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Edit: This seems like fairly solid advice, my parents weren't poor but they were debt slaves. I had to learn to save and not have credit cards.
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Edit: Perhaps you mean that they aren't taxed year over year, they're only taxed when you sell the stock or commodity.
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How are all of you so fucking retarded?
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Also don't become complicit with modern jewish society by (((investing))) in jewishness, or by paying 'income taxes'. You'll be financing your own oppression and corruption if you do. Live free, young man.
Disclaimer: The life of the jewish collaborator is often easier and more profitable, with the one major downside being the expense of your soul.
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[ - ] Sector2 0 points 1 monthApr 25, 2025 04:21:57 ago (+0/-0)
True. I tend to be too much of an optimist, despite knowing better. Yes, be your own boss. At least in the sense of providing for yourself without being a tool someone employs. Once you do accept the programming to be a normal person with a normal job, there you are.
Nevermind my rants about people being better than they've been programmed to be. I'm just idealizing a past life that's apparently no longer accessible.
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[ - ] NeverHappened 0 points 1 monthApr 25, 2025 10:37:12 ago (+0/-0)
Judging by my recent tax return, the niggers have it figured out. I only made $15k last year and we got almost $10k back in Federal and State d/t refundable credits.
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I had no idea the returns would work out that way but maybe I will plan to utilize this in the future.
So if you are saying taxes are evil then you don't buy or own anything yourself? Or is it just income tax that is evil in your mind?
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[ + ] NeverHappened
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I personally have tried not filing income taxes or paying real estate taxes for a number of years and in both instances it did not work out well for us. If you have some actionable advice I would love to hear it.
I am (unfortunately) in the medical field; other than perhaps switching to a consultative role or opening a private practice I fail to see how I could be anything other than a tool someone employs. I don't want to work other than on my own family/land so there's no way I would be interested in the responsibility of finding my own work. My time is my most valuable commodity so I'm not going to waste it chasing sheckles.
My hopium is of the AI variety. We already live in a post-scarcity world so if enough people wake up things might actually really improve.
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[ - ] Sector2 0 points 1 monthApr 27, 2025 12:20:53 ago (+0/-0)
Then how is continued participation in one's own oppression and self-denigration rationalized? But you're right. I'm wasting my time and might as well being trying to [aphorism about pointless endeavors].
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