I'm guessing they'll still be baffled, or it will magically be something that's politically convenient to push a current agenda with. (which we find out years later, wasn't actually causing it)
Didn’t they already test baby formulas and baby food for poisons? Didn’t they already find high amounts of aluminum in all scheduled vaccines? Didn’t they already make public the truth about cloud seeding? They are stalling and playing the game again…
Seed oil is poison. For a grown man that can flush his digestive system it is merely a setback, a paper cut. For a baby, its a development denial tool. The only baby food that is 100% healthy is breast milk.
Pharmaceuticals in drinking water - and MOM!!!! (birth control, and her drinking water/food)
Vaccines - talked about to death, I'm not personally super for or against. My kids aren't vaxxed but I am so I don't really know for sure.
Poor mental health - stress is a major cause of issues throughout all peoples and stress levels are at an absolute max atm.
Radio waves - internet, cellular networks, radio, bluetooth, etc. All that shit runs through you and it is absolutely increasing every year and so is autism.
[ - ] qwop [op] 1 point 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 04:39:49 ago (+1/-0)*
Have you watched the vaxxed movies? Ask any mother, who's healthy child regressed into a drooling mess right after a shot, where autism comes from.
It's not really complicated, but the needle pushers are also experts at seeding doubt. They want you to think it could be multiple things, and that's just perfectly fine with them.
Once you realize all vaccines, every single one of them, always contain adjuvants. And the adjuvants are there to irritate the body in order to illicit an immune response. And then once you know that, and then you realize that all adjuvants are poisons, otherwise there would be no response, then you are able to fit the puzzle pieces together.
All vaccines are injected poisons, and by injecting a poison you bypass all of the body's natural in-built defences. And that's how you create injury.
Have you watched the vaxxed movies? Ask any mother, who's healthy child regressed into a drooling mess right after a shot, where autism comes from.
While I think that some cases of autism are caused by vaccines, its certainly not all cases and autism as the disease predates vaccine use. Autism isn’t one disease, its a set of diseases with similar presentation and poorly understood pathologies. Many cases are thought to have an autoimmune component which causes severe brain inflamation. Even if all cases had an autoimmune pathology (they don’t), you are ignoring the fact that many autoimmune disorders are triggered by natural infections and other chemical exposures.
Your statement is a red herring, and probably half a dozen other logical fallacies. Its really irritating to be confronted on this forum with so many unnuanced and simplistic arguments. The fact is, we don’t know how many cases of autism can be attributed to vaccines and we will never know until we perform a large scale randomized double blind placebo controlled test on children of a sufficient durations to study cognitive development. Your emotion laden, cherry picked anecdote doesn’t give us answers. Science, when performed properly, does.
Once you realize all vaccines, every single one of them, always contain adjuvants. And the adjuvants are there to irritate the body in order to illicit an immune response.
Yeah I know all about ASIA. Its also the epitope itself.
And then once you know that, and then you realize that all adjuvants are poisons
I really object to this type of language. The pro-vax religionists use the same type of emotion driven arguments. Anything is poison in the wrong dosage. Tolerable doses may vary from person to person and may have utility. Again, WE DON’T KNOW.
I hope RFK does order such a study to be performed during his tenure at HHS. I wouldn’t feel safe giving myself or my family member any vaccine until someone does. But your argument is dumb. If the body’s natural defences were infallible, we wouldn’t have to take antibiotics for infections. Are those poisons too? Natural immunity is not always better.
Im a person thats been redpilled on vaccines for quite a while (well before the epidemic) What convinced me vaccines were a bad risk was facts, not emotional hyperbole.
I only saw your reply now. You make a lot of assumptions about what I base my information on. It has nothing to do with emotions. It has everything to do with noticing a crystal clear pattern that is undeniable.
You use the same dismissive language as indoctrinated doctors and "scientists" use, which shows a lack of knowledge, in actually listening to the parents with injured kids.
You want the answers to be found in "the science", instead of paying attention to something that is right in front of your eyes.
You can whitewash all you want, "not all niggers", "not all jews", "not all muslims", "not all vaccines", is the type of typical thinking that leads to unnecessary suffering. It prevents people from taking action.
"Experts", who still think they need to read something on a piece of paper, before they can accept what is happening right in front of their eyes.
I smell something like this in you also. Which means it's simply an admission from yourself, that you have yet to look into this issue deep enough.
You want someone else to tell you, because you're not convinced. Not enough text on a white paper from experts yet. That's what you are saying.
So, if you admit that you don't know enough, then do not accuse me of hyperbole, because if you do not know enough to make a decision, then you do not have the knowledge to properly judge my statements either.
Very simple. Don't put yourself on some high horse pedestal, trying to patronize, when in the same written text, you admit that you don't know.
"WE DO NOT KNOW" - Don't lump me into your personal thought processes.
I have no doubt whatsoever, that vaccines are the major cause of the autism epidemic and many other ill effects. You can tiptoe and split hairs all you want. It has nothing to do with emotions, it has to do with looking into this problem for over 20 years now.
You use the same dismissive language as indoctrinated doctors and "scientists" use, which shows a lack of knowledge, in actually listening to the parents with injured kids.
Ive heard the parents with injured kids. They are the reason we should perform a randomized placebo controlled study. You cannot study this phenomenon quantitatively with “Ask any mother, who's healthy child regressed into a drooling mess right after a shot, “ You cannot. If you don’t know why anecdotal evidence is bad science, you don’t understand science.
You want the answers to be found in "the science", instead of paying attention to something that is right in front of your eyes.
Correct.
You can whitewash all you want, "not all niggers", "not all jews", "not all muslims", "not all vaccines", is the type of typical thinking that leads to unnecessary suffering. It prevents people from taking action.
All I want is the truth. And the truth is that its not all niggers and its not all jews. And sometimes its whites. And the reason why its difficult to predict who the “bad guy” is , is because we don’t properly understand the system we are studying (race, genetics, culture, politics) When we understand how the system truly works we can solve its problems. But you want with a false theory because you believe that pushing a falsehood (every single black, every single jew, every single vaccine) will get a better result. I don’t. It destroys our credibility for one.
Not enough text on a white paper from experts yet. That's what you are saying.
Not enough data. Data. Thats what I want. I. LIKE. DATA. It can be on paper, or a computer screen of cuneiform tablets for all I care. Its not a feeling. Its not a “smell” . Your method appears to be 100% emotion based and not quantitative at all. Thats not how you get to the bottom of things.
"WE DO NOT KNOW" - Don't lump me into your personal thought processes.
Im pretty confident that you have not unlocked the secrets of the immune system. You don’t know. I dont know. Somebody at Merck or the FDA might know but they ain’t talkin.
I just keep hearing you say things like “We don’t have time to study this problem. Just hang all vaccinologists. Lets go with our feeling. No need for messy facts!” This is what you seem to be implying. I don’t agree.
I have no doubt whatsoever, that vaccines are the major cause of the autism epidemic and many other ill effects.
Great. Prove it. Quantitatively. Whats the probability that I will develop autism if I get MMR or Hepatitis shots? 1 in 500? 1 in 5000? Wouldn’t you like to know. Everybody who had shots as a kid did not turn into a drooling regressed mess. They didn’t. Some shots like small pox seem to have eliminated their disease entirely. Some problems like childhood deafness seem to have been largely eliminated by certain vax programs. I observe and acknowlege these things because I try to maintain objectivity, which you are clearly failing at.
I have a nuanced position here. I don’t think all vaccines are evil. I think some might be useful in certain circumstances but that its probably overused as a tool and vaccination can cause injury. That is a measured approach and for some reason this makes you very angry. Im not a strong enough anti-vaxxer, apparently. I don’t care. We’re not talking about some theological argument like good works vs faith alone, or whatever. You have to collect data to know whats going on. This is obtainable data but for some reason you don’t want it because it might be complicated? We should just stick with vaxxes = satan? Eh.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 17:11:34 ago (+4/-0)
there's almost a 1:1 correlation.
[ + ] RollinDaGrassTyson
[ - ] RollinDaGrassTyson 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 20:59:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 18:08:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 3 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 18:25:09 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 21:08:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheNoticing
[ - ] TheNoticing 2 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 23:52:10 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior
[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 1 point 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 00:36:03 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 21:04:07 ago (+1/-0)
I'm sure this to will take 2 years to baffle xpertz.
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 08:09:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 16:58:51 ago (+1/-0)*
[_] we find its aluminum and/or mercury and/or another adjuvunct from the shots
[_] we find out its processed sugar and food dyes
[_] we find out its farm chemicals like glysophate, pharma runoff, and fluoride from drinking water.
[_] All of above
[_] None of the above, in a shocking turn of events it's actually.....
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 21:05:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 22:17:09 ago (+1/-0)
Getting A-Jacked is a vaxx causative
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 17:28:07 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 2 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 17:47:49 ago (+2/-0)
When I think about it, though.
Amish don't have autism. What are they doing different.
Its gotta be the shots.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 3 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 19:29:32 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 08:11:53 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 16:55:33 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 16:53:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 21:06:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 10:35:35 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Ducktalesooo000ooo
[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 0 points 2 weeksMay 26, 2025 01:22:42 ago (+0/-0)
Might have to adjust the budget a little… but c’mon.. what else were you gonna use that money for?
Something distasteful probably.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 02:26:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PORTforceOne
[ - ] PORTforceOne 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 23:27:35 ago (+0/-0)
Pharmaceuticals in drinking water - and MOM!!!! (birth control, and her drinking water/food)
Vaccines - talked about to death, I'm not personally super for or against. My kids aren't vaxxed but I am so I don't really know for sure.
Poor mental health - stress is a major cause of issues throughout all peoples and stress levels are at an absolute max atm.
Radio waves - internet, cellular networks, radio, bluetooth, etc. All that shit runs through you and it is absolutely increasing every year and so is autism.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 23:16:59 ago (+0/-0)
Elevated levels of measles antibodies in children with autism
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12849883/
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop [op] 1 point 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 04:39:49 ago (+1/-0)*
It's not really complicated, but the needle pushers are also experts at seeding doubt. They want you to think it could be multiple things, and that's just perfectly fine with them.
Once you realize all vaccines, every single one of them, always contain adjuvants. And the adjuvants are there to irritate the body in order to illicit an immune response. And then once you know that, and then you realize that all adjuvants are poisons, otherwise there would be no response, then you are able to fit the puzzle pieces together.
All vaccines are injected poisons, and by injecting a poison you bypass all of the body's natural in-built defences. And that's how you create injury.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsApr 12, 2025 10:33:28 ago (+0/-0)
While I think that some cases of autism are caused by vaccines, its certainly not all cases and autism as the disease predates vaccine use.
Autism isn’t one disease, its a set of diseases with similar presentation and poorly understood pathologies. Many cases are thought to have an autoimmune component which causes severe brain inflamation. Even if all cases had an autoimmune pathology (they don’t), you are ignoring the fact that many autoimmune disorders are triggered by natural infections and other chemical exposures.
Your statement is a red herring, and probably half a dozen other logical fallacies. Its really irritating to be confronted on this forum with so many unnuanced and simplistic arguments. The fact is, we don’t know how many cases of autism can be attributed to vaccines and we will never know until we perform a large scale randomized double blind placebo controlled test on children of a sufficient durations to study cognitive development. Your emotion laden, cherry picked anecdote doesn’t give us answers. Science, when performed properly, does.
Yeah I know all about ASIA. Its also the epitope itself.
I really object to this type of language. The pro-vax religionists use the same type of emotion driven arguments. Anything is poison in the wrong dosage. Tolerable doses may vary from person to person and may have utility. Again, WE DON’T KNOW.
I hope RFK does order such a study to be performed during his tenure at HHS. I wouldn’t feel safe giving myself or my family member any vaccine until someone does. But your argument is dumb. If the body’s natural defences were infallible, we wouldn’t have to take antibiotics for infections. Are those poisons too? Natural immunity is not always better.
Im a person thats been redpilled on vaccines for quite a while (well before the epidemic) What convinced me vaccines were a bad risk was facts, not emotional hyperbole.
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 21, 2025 16:45:27 ago (+0/-0)
You use the same dismissive language as indoctrinated doctors and "scientists" use, which shows a lack of knowledge, in actually listening to the parents with injured kids.
You want the answers to be found in "the science", instead of paying attention to something that is right in front of your eyes.
You can whitewash all you want, "not all niggers", "not all jews", "not all muslims", "not all vaccines", is the type of typical thinking that leads to unnecessary suffering. It prevents people from taking action.
"Experts", who still think they need to read something on a piece of paper, before they can accept what is happening right in front of their eyes.
I smell something like this in you also. Which means it's simply an admission from yourself, that you have yet to look into this issue deep enough.
You want someone else to tell you, because you're not convinced. Not enough text on a white paper from experts yet. That's what you are saying.
So, if you admit that you don't know enough, then do not accuse me of hyperbole, because if you do not know enough to make a decision, then you do not have the knowledge to properly judge my statements either.
Very simple. Don't put yourself on some high horse pedestal, trying to patronize, when in the same written text, you admit that you don't know.
"WE DO NOT KNOW" - Don't lump me into your personal thought processes.
Read this, and read the comments, you can also read the linked study:
https://substack.com/@tobyrogers/note/c-110724113?r=30rjeq
I have no doubt whatsoever, that vaccines are the major cause of the autism epidemic and many other ill effects. You can tiptoe and split hairs all you want. It has nothing to do with emotions, it has to do with looking into this problem for over 20 years now.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthApr 21, 2025 18:45:22 ago (+0/-0)
Ive heard the parents with injured kids. They are the reason we should perform a randomized placebo controlled study. You cannot study this phenomenon quantitatively with “Ask any mother, who's healthy child regressed into a drooling mess right after a shot, “
You cannot. If you don’t know why anecdotal evidence is bad science, you don’t understand science.
Correct.
All I want is the truth. And the truth is that its not all niggers and its not all jews. And sometimes its whites. And the reason why its difficult to predict who the “bad guy” is , is because we don’t properly understand the system we are studying (race, genetics, culture, politics) When we understand how the system truly works we can solve its problems. But you want with a false theory because you believe that pushing a falsehood (every single black, every single jew, every single vaccine) will get a better result. I don’t. It destroys our credibility for one.
Not enough data. Data. Thats what I want. I. LIKE. DATA. It can be on paper, or a computer screen of cuneiform tablets for all I care. Its not a feeling. Its not a “smell” . Your method appears to be 100% emotion based and not quantitative at all. Thats not how you get to the bottom of things.
Im pretty confident that you have not unlocked the secrets of the immune system. You don’t know. I dont know. Somebody at Merck or the FDA might know but they ain’t talkin.
I just keep hearing you say things like “We don’t have time to study this problem. Just hang all vaccinologists. Lets go with our feeling. No need for messy facts!” This is what you seem to be implying. I don’t agree.
Great. Prove it. Quantitatively. Whats the probability that I will develop autism if I get MMR or Hepatitis shots? 1 in 500? 1 in 5000? Wouldn’t you like to know. Everybody who had shots as a kid did not turn into a drooling regressed mess. They didn’t. Some shots like small pox seem to have eliminated their disease entirely. Some problems like childhood deafness seem to have been largely eliminated by certain vax programs. I observe and acknowlege these things because I try to maintain objectivity, which you are clearly failing at.
I have a nuanced position here. I don’t think all vaccines are evil. I think some might be useful in certain circumstances but that its probably overused as a tool and vaccination can cause injury. That is a measured approach and for some reason this makes you very angry. Im not a strong enough anti-vaxxer, apparently. I don’t care. We’re not talking about some theological argument like good works vs faith alone, or whatever. You have to collect data to know whats going on. This is obtainable data but for some reason you don’t want it because it might be complicated? We should just stick with vaxxes = satan? Eh.
[ + ] bohmoonx
[ - ] bohmoonx 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 22:11:39 ago (+0/-0)