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This might sound dumb but what's the engine that pushes time forward? What's the energy source for time?

submitted by Doglegwarrior to AskUpgoat 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:20:31 ago (+9/-2)     (AskUpgoat)

It seems like time is a type of motion in a sense so it would seem to need a power supply or engine of some type?


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[ - ] shadowwolf225 0 points 2 monthsApr 14, 2025 00:02:21 ago (+0/-0)

The existence of god/good. Reality is an algorithm that tests literally every possibility (many worlds quantum interpretation) and entropy is the collective result of everything which falls away because it is not in complete and perfect alignment with that concept/direction/essence. The sheer existence of the possibility (and therefore in an infinite system the requirement of existence) of such a transcendental object by it's very nature powers the causation that we experience as time. Think of it like "up" relative to gravity. anything that is moving continuously but not EXACTLY in the direction of up will eventually be steered by gravity in such a way that it will return to the surface from which it started. This is a 3d example, the divine would by definition be the infinite singular that is set apart from all else.

[ - ] Master_Foo 3 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:26:25 ago (+3/-0)

Time doesn't "push forward" It just appears so from the perspective of someone who has no freedom of movement within the confines of time.

From the perspective of a Hyperspace being time goes backwards and forwards.

The real question you want to ask is, "why does entropy increase in one direction and decrease in the other".

And the answer to that is "Ask a Hyperspace being".

[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 22:59:47 ago (+0/-0)

Danm _Foo,you just blew my fool head open! Outstanding!!

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 23:21:42 ago (+1/-1)

Heil Odin! o/

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason -1 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 01:59:20 ago (+0/-1)

why does entropy increase in one direction and decrease in the other

a) Increase in one direction (living) WHILE decreasing in the other (dying)...

b) Entropy implies being within (en) a turn (trope) aka within the transformation (life) of flow (inception towards death) aka living (temporary growth) within the process of dying (ongoing loss).

the real question

A suggested quest tempts one to seek a suggested outcome (answer) from one another, while ignoring the origin (perceivable) of being (perception) aka a solution (flow) of problems (form).

Solution implies real; question vs answer implies fiction.

[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 23:33:35 ago (+2/-0)

Aristotle had a pretty intelligible view on this. He said it was change. Time is not pushing things forward, nor is it something that is pushed forward. Time is just a measurement of change.

If you ask an Einsteinian, time is not distinct from space. If you move through space, you move through time. Or something like that. So, if it feels like time has a direction, this is just related to the fact that you are always moving through spacetime coordinates.

[ - ] SithEmpire 2 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 03:01:08 ago (+2/-0)

If you move through space, you move through time. Or something like that.

The opposite, in fact! The space-time speed is constant (1c), so moving spatially detracts from moving temporally in that model, like rotating the velocity vector away from the time axis to make it push through space a bit.

[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 08:43:10 ago (+1/-0)*

So, that would be in an absolute not a relative way, right? Ideally, I want to move around a "big gravity" thing to slow down my relative passage of time?

[ - ] SithEmpire 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 09:52:26 ago (+1/-0)

Great question - it applies to everything else after fixing where the observer is, so in that sense, it's relative.

If somebody takes a one-week tour around the solar system and brings a mobile device for selfies, the device travels with them, which is zero relative movement and they will see 1 week gained on its clock. Meanwhile, a friend on Earth will observe a lot of relative movement, during which local time advances by more than 1 week depending on the speed involved / distance covered, because the Earth observer sees time passing more slowly for the moving tourist.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason -1 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 01:54:16 ago (+0/-1)

He said it WAS change. Time IS not pushing things forward...

a) Perceivable WAS before perception comes into being...suggesting what IS tempts one to ignore that.

b) Aristotle saying that change WAS implies his response to reality...using what he's saying to suggest each other what IS or ISN'T implies fiction.

WAS moves; IS affixes...if one consents to ignore former (perceivable inspiration) for latter (suggested information).

Sound WAS; the suggested word "sound" IS...if one consents to hold onto the suggestion thereof. Sound doesn't come with a label (word)...it moves instruments apart from one another.

just a measurement of change

Change implies just; measurement implies odd aka "constituting a unit in excess of an even number". Unit/uni - "one" implies one and only. Any measurement taken above or below one implies excess of ONEself measuring.

There can be only one aka one for all and all for one...energy aka internal power of change aka transformation (life) of flow (inception towards death) aka the alchemical transubstantiation of partials (ones) within whole (oneness).

like time has a direction

Same (inception towards death) directs differences (life)...others suggest likeness to equalize differences perceived.



[ - ] LookFat 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 09:34:00 ago (+1/-0)

Time is a perspective, it's nota thing that in motion or requires energy to go.

[ - ] Whatthefuck 1 point 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 00:53:52 ago (+1/-0)

I heard after the elephants, it's turtles all the way down.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 1 point 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:36:25 ago (+1/-0)

time is just a way to systematically measure entropy.

Entropy will reverse when the universe collectively hits 1a

[ - ] localsal 1 point 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:56:41 ago (+1/-0)

So like everyone will reanimate their bodies and start to live life backwards at some point?

Sounds intense. Will memory be destroyed? I can't imagine 10yo me with all this perspective. LOL.

[ - ] inaminit 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 21:54:00 ago (+1/-1)

The illusion of time exists only because the universe is still expanding from the initial impetus of the big bang... The physics of an explosion being an expansion of energy from a central point that eventually passes into nothing as that energy is dispersed in all directions... Will the end of time come as that expansion finally stops and the impetus fully dissipates? Some think that everything will begin to retract to the original source point like some cosmic rubber band.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 02:59:01 ago (+0/-0)

expansion of energy from a central point

a) EN'ERGY, noun (Greek work) - "internal or inherent power"... https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/energy

b) What if all was energy before each one power within can come into being as its own center?

c) What if point implies end of sentence, while sentence (life) implies from origin (inception) towards point of end (death)?

d) If one makes a point while being moved, then it becomes a line...YET...one can only be (life) within a line (inception towards death).

energy is dispersed in all directions

a) What if all implies one direction (inception towards death); which in return allows each dispersed one within (life) to change directions?

b) What if direction implies directed (life) by action (inception towards death)?

the original source point

a) What if all was before each life within could be sentenced within a line towards a point of death?

b) What if instead of creatio ex nihilo (creation out of nothing)...it's transformation within everything?

c) To draw a point or a line implies forming a shape DURING FLOW.

d) What if others suggest one to "point out" to distract one from being "sentenced within"?

e) What if stop (cessation of motion) implies matters (life) ignorance of motion (inception towards death) and not the actual cessation of motion?

big bang

What if it is each little bang within the big sound of silence, which brings "noise" into being?

[ - ] observation1 1 point 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:34:21 ago (+1/-0)

What pushes light

[ - ] DukeofRaul -1 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:58:17 ago (+0/-1)

Gravity

[ - ] observation1 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 21:39:11 ago (+0/-0)

Not at that speed

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 22:21:12 ago (+0/-0)

Points gravitate in space where they are bc they are important

[ - ] observation1 2 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 22:22:20 ago (+2/-0)

God said so is also the correct answer

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 03:01:27 ago (+0/-0)

points gravitate in space

If one looks at any suggested constellation of "points", then ones perception thereof draws a "line" of sight...

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 16:05:36 ago (+0/-0)

time is a CONCEPT, not a thing.

[ - ] GrayDragon 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 04:03:14 ago (+0/-0)

Niggers consume White folk's energy resources causing Whites to lose time. This is the energy "engine" that allows time to proceed. We waz time n sheeeeit!

[ - ] SithEmpire 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 02:49:36 ago (+0/-0)

That is "entropy", which can be viewed as a fuel supply of "order" being expended and leaving disorder.

Order here refers to the distribution of energy flowing around, where that flow is life, time, however one denotes it. Eventually all concentrated energy will have dispersed, nothing will differ in energy level, thus no more flow.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 01:40:27 ago (+0/-0)

what's the engine that pushes time forward?

a) When push (inception towards death) comes to shove (life)...

b) Engine implies being within (en) generation (gine)

c) Time perceived implies motion; time suggested implies holding onto three fictitious states (past; present; future), while ignoring ones real presence within motion.

d) Motion can only move forwards...it's the matter within which can change directions WHILE being (life) moved forwards (inception towards death).

What's the energy source for time?

Energy implies "internal/inherent power" aka the external source (action) for each internal effect (reaction).

a type of motion

Type implies the differentiation of matter within the same motion. Type implies shape...motion implies foundation for matter to be shaped.

motion in a sense

a) Sense implies "send by", hence motion giving matter "presence/pre-sense".

b) Suggested "motion in a sense" inverts sensing (ones perception) within motion (all perceivable).

need a power supply

Energy implies the internal differentiation (reaction) of power (action) aka generating its own supply. To be able to react implies being empowered by action.

engine of some type

Same engine (inception towards death); different types (life)...

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 01:21:24 ago (+0/-0)

everything is flowing, time is no different

[ - ] glooper 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 23:45:46 ago (+0/-0)

Good thread.

Also remember goat-juggers.

Time travel is possible.

We are all time travelers. We move forward on the arrow of time.

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:27:52 ago (+0/-0)

It’s a infinite stack of ribbons.

You go. It doesn’t go.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:58:46 ago (+0/-0)

Vibrations

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 0 points 2 monthsApr 11, 2025 21:31:48 ago (+0/-0)

And wrinkles

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 0 points 2 monthsApr 10, 2025 20:22:04 ago (+1/-1)

BEAR POWER!