first off, calm down. chicks are turned off by the hyper spastic behavior. just relax, you are there to see if she is worth your time, and the same for her.
ask questions, and be interested in her, but don't be a simp. don't fawn all over her, and don't be a puppy dog chasing her everywhere. just be nice, and have a nice conversation. if it works out, cool, if not that is also cool because now you know.
don't worry too much about eye contact.
dress clean and presentable. not a jacket and tie, but don't wear your pajamas either.
women are all about communication and talking. you want her talking just a little bit more than you. share stories from your past (hopefully funny ones) and ask her to share stories about her past. ask about what she does, what she likes, what are her hobbies or whatever. once you find out what she is interested in, you can use that to drive the conversation. bring some corny jokes or other conversation starters. when the conversation dies a little, just pause and bring out a bad joke or just mention the obvious. don't fret or worry, conversations always have pauses.
don't try for a kiss on the first date, but at the end of the date, make sure you let her know you had a fun time and it would be great to do it again next week. again, don't simp, just casual and calm/cool/collected.
Not everyone will accept you and thats okay. Learn that rejection is someone doing you the favor of being honest with you.Keep trying and eventually you'll find a female you.
How old are you? Can you tell us a little about the girl? Where do you plan to go? Can’t make a suggestion on wardrobe if I don’t know where you are going.
Consider doing a heavy workout a few hours before the date. This will release your nervous energy and you will be nice and relaxed and confident.
I'm 29 years old. She is a shy introvert that hasn't spent much time outside of her home because she has been caring for her sick grandmother. Early 20s, I think she is a virgin. Going to a steakhouse.
29 years old? Wow okay well look it sounds like for both of you it's going to be a huge life-changing event just to sit down and have a good meal so just do that.
Don't talk with your mouth full of food swallow before you say anything don't spit food or or spit
Seriously it's disgusting to see food and other people's mouth when you're talking. Swallow what you eat before you say anything. If she asked you a question in the middle of your eating chewing wait till you finish doing and then talk.
You don't have to buy the best thing they have but also don't buy the cheapest thing. You've decided to go to a steakhouse so expect to spend some money and go ahead and get the best medium meal that they have. If you're going to a steakhouse get a steak. Don't get a damn hamburger.
If no one wants to talk don't try to force a conversation if she wants to talk just listen. Don't you do all the talking. Avoid politics sex and religion in the beginning.
Don't be going through the whole night thinking am I going to get laid am I going to get kissed or am I going to kiss her. Don't think about any of that stuff.
Ask her how our food is when it comes If there's something she doesn't like make sure to ask the waiter to change it. When the waiter comes and brings your food look at her and say do you have what you want is there anything else you want while the waiter is standing there. That impresses the hell out of the girl.
Go to the bathroom before you go on your date.
Don't overthink things don't think you have to think of stuff to talk about don't think you have to think of stuff to do. You've already thought of something to do we just take her to a
Sometimes the best dates are when you both just be quiet and you enjoy the meal. Have a plan on what you're going to do after you finish eating. Don't get rushed by the restaurant to leave. That is your date. If you're going to do something else after the date after the meal think of it and have a little plan say I thought we might go for a walk down the street. Or I thought we might go to this coffee shop after the steakhouse or whatever. But have a plan don't be sitting there fidgeting and thinking. Don't ask the girl what she wants to do what she wants to do what do you want to do what do you want to do. Girls fucking hate that they want you to have some kind of a plan. And she might say she doesn't want to do it and that's fine but the girl doesn't want to be leading in the date.
Remember there are a lot of fish in the sea the chance that it's going to work out with this one is pretty rare but the chance that you can both have fun have a decent meal get to know each other a little better and have a night that's better than sitting home alone is
Don't look at other women especially the waitress if she's hot when you're with another girl eating.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head but for God's sake don't have food in your mouth when you're talking and don't be a fucking slob. Sit up straight eat with your knife and fork put your knife and fork down between bites of food. Cut your food with a knife and fork and eat it. Don't talk with your mouth full leaning forward so you don't spill stuff on your shirt like a slop. Constantly use your napkin and wipe your face if there's something on your mouth or something she doesn't have to look at it for half an hour before she finally tells you you've got something sitting on your mouth that you should have wiped your napkin a half an hour ago.
Make sure you blow your fucking nose before you go anywhere.
If you don't have anything to wear you can always go to a thrift shop and find yourself a shirt for five bucks and a pair of pants little fit you for five bucks. Wear pants that are slightly too big not too small.
She’s probably not a fashion plate. You don’t want to over-dress. You could wear khakis or jeans and a button down shirt or a sweater. Loafers are good. You should look neat .
Everyone likes to feel good. Compliments usually do that. It helps if they are true. Being interested in her shit will also make her feel good. Everyone wants to feel attractive and interesting. If you can make her feel that with seeming phoney, youre a shoo in. Focusing on making her feel good/comfortable will also keep you from obsessing over your own internal neurotic narrative , IMO.
Edit: don’t forget to smile. Try to have a good time. She will enjoy herself more if you are enjoying yourself.
Good Lord no do not talk about current events or news you going to get into politics and all the other stuff real quick. Absolutely do not do
How much is your thing is if you could drop if you could have a vacation anywhere in the world where would you go or do you have any favorite places that you like to go in the city that you're in. Or do you have any pets you like pets. What's your favorite food. Those kinds of things about what the person likes. You want to find out what the person likes you do not want to talk politics or news which is all horrible negative energy stuff.
these are kids in their 20's. tik tok will come up :have you seen/heard/tried .these are safe topics and she can choose where the topic goes. its a date crackingjokes not your first day at kindergarten.
Yes. One of them committed suicide. The story behind is that she was suicidal before with one failed attempt(actually would have been successful if wasn't intervened by a relative). Then she started hitting on me and out of pity i fucked her(took her virginity, she was 20 and a fattie, i was 18 at that time). After some times i said this is wrong that we are doing this and she flipped out. Toxic stuff(included my parents). Anyway, half a year later she hanged herself.
Dude, listen to me, cut a hole in the crotch of your pants and pull your balls out and let them dangle so that when you're sitting talking to her, if the conversation goes south open your legs and when she lays her eyes on those nuts say "baby, I've got a whole bag full". This shit will get you in like Flynn son
[ - ] Peleg 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 09:55:21 ago (+1/-0)
"This shit will get you in like Flynn son."
Do you know where that phrase, "in like Flynn", came from?
The story goes that Errol Flynn, a movie star years ago, always had very young teenage girls brought to his trailer when on set making movies. He was a pervert and pedophile but never got into trouble about it because he was "IN"! If you were "in like Flynn" you could rape girls and get away with it. You know, kinda like all these degenerate freaks that are doing the same thing now only worse.
In the end the girl wants to be around the guy who when she's with him she feels like she has had a pleasant time. It doesn't have to be great it doesn't have to be the most exciting but you don't want it to be filled with negative energy like talking about negative subjects or stuff that you hate or the news or the horrible things that are going on in the world.
She wants to be like oh I just spent 2 hours with this dude and we talked about animals and we talked about the stuff I like and he let me cry on his shoulder a little bit about my grandma and now I feel better about that and he asked the waiter if there was anything else I wanted when the waiter came to deliver my steak. And the steak was good. And I didn't have to cook it and that was great.
[ - ] Hobama 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 02:18:07 ago (+1/-0)
Memorize 3 talking points in case you get flustered and it starts getting quiet. Botches love conversation flow and wantnit to be ‘easy’ aka they want you to make it happen. If you have anything in common ask her about that, thats one. Ask her important shit like if she values family etc. thats 2. Come up with one more. 2 drink max. Dont get wasted and act a fool. Dont be a desperate simp, there are plenty of girls. The of it as training. Dont expect to get laid but you should definitely escalate physical contact like a hand touch if you read shes into you. Thats when you bash her and bring her to your cace.
Try the "aggressive negotiations" strategy. Flop your dick on the table and straight up ask her if she is interested or not. You'll save yourself from wasting a whole evening and possibly having to pay for a meal/movie.
Let her talk. Girls love to talk. If she says do you watch this show or that show and you don't say no I don't tell me about them. And just let her talk. You don't have to like it you don't have to tell her you disagree. Just let her talk.
Also, don't over commit to this girl. If she's toxic, or disrespectful bail. It will only get worse.
Do not settle for hot-but-crazy. Divorce is painful and expensive and way too easy to file for, so don't let your little head drive.
Also, I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think you need to wait for marriage to have sex, but you should hold out until you are genuinely in love with her.
I said genuinely. Not lust. Love you fucking animal.
If you are strong enough to wait, she will respect that, if she's the kind of person worth respecting back. Make sure she's willing to wait too. If she can't then she'll cheat eventually anyway.
Also, test her. Is she sane when it comes to money? How's she on traditional values? Does she have a higher body count then you? Also, don't listen to her words, women lie and/or don't even understand themselves. Watch how she acts.
Look up "shit tests" and learn about why they do them without knowing it.
Is she on her phone while talking to you? She not that into you. Does she go out of the way to find little reasons to touch you, on the arm say? She really likes you. Which way are her feet pointed when she's speaking to you? If they are pointed at you that means she wants to get closer subconsciously.
Pay attention to her body language. People lie with words, lying with your body is HARD.
Also, understand that women are hypergamous (look it up) by nature. It's in their DNA, so don't rage at them for it. Understand it and climb the ladder to meet their expectations. Ie: Be confident, lead, don't follow, display strength but without scaring her off. Dress nice, be well groomed, but don't look like you put a ton of effort into it. Signal your ability to provide, protect, and father.
DON'T FUCKING BRAG ABOUT YOUR FUCKING MONEY ETC. Be cool, and easy, and humble. Like winning is natural and expected. Like its no big deal.
When it's over don't say "I had a great time" then try to set up a second date. Remember women are HYPERGAMOUS, they WANT you to be above them in the pecking order, so don't let her know how much you like her or she'll think your lower satis (cus she's your only fish on the line). Let her sweat a little while without knowing if she did ok or not. Two days later, ask her out again.
DO NOT FUCKING COME OFF AS NEEDY OR DESPERATE. DO NOT CHASE, LET HER COME TO YOU.
There's a ton more of course, but just watch youtube for 12 hours or something.
I’m actually going to review these videos this weekend as I’ve lost a lot of my social skills sitting at a computer for work for the last several years. I’m not trolling. Please listen to this Australian fellow. He was once a pussy and ended up finding great success.
Aw. Trick they taught in speech class was you can look at their forehead or the space between their eyes and it looks like you're making eye contact without actually making eye contact.
Just for like a count one pony two pony then look away slowly. No one wants to be stared down.
Never read it but I did Google it and hahaha. When I was a teenager I read " Memoirs of a geisha" and there was a tutorial on how to use your eyes to attract a man. That's a girl's game. You shouldn't have to do that. Just casual eye contact for you and watch her eyes. If she lets you catch her looking, you're in.
It's a first date. Hopefully you guys have a similar sense of humor and can spend the night talking about stupid shit.also lean back a bit when sitting. She will copy your body language.
You are interested in tricking her into sex so you can marry her? Why don’t you just get her to like you instead? Then she’ll have sex with you and marry you.
If you like her you should want to treat her fairly. But thats not what Rooshes book was about. It is not about treating women fairly. It was about abusing women and flushing them ASAP. He now hates his own book. If you think thats a good book, you hate women and you shouldnt marry one.
If youre going to go into this date like women are the enemy, youve already lost. You don’t have to hate women because you haven’t had smashing success with them. Obviously alot of women are in the same boat as you. Good luck.
He probably wasn't. The lack of photos of Roosh with women suggests he was writing fanfic before his anxiety over getting caught lying pushed him into writing very mediocre political copy.
The only PUA you need to read is me. Helps I have state AI systems backing me and am a lot better looking than Roosh.
[ - ] Trope 1 point 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:09:34 ago (+1/-0)
I truly believe you will benefit from the videos I linked you. I’m currently downloading them now and am excited to watch them again. I have a wife now thanks to this dude. As absurd as it sounds.
Woman are not straightforward in what they want, but what that do has a logic
If that are interested they will actually say something positive then something negative. If they do this pause, think and then reply. Don't take the negative seriously
What they want is actually leader, someone they see as dangerous, but that they can control.
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[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 6 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:14:37 ago (+6/-0)
ask questions, and be interested in her, but don't be a simp. don't fawn all over her, and don't be a puppy dog chasing her everywhere. just be nice, and have a nice conversation. if it works out, cool, if not that is also cool because now you know.
don't worry too much about eye contact.
dress clean and presentable. not a jacket and tie, but don't wear your pajamas either.
women are all about communication and talking. you want her talking just a little bit more than you. share stories from your past (hopefully funny ones) and ask her to share stories about her past. ask about what she does, what she likes, what are her hobbies or whatever. once you find out what she is interested in, you can use that to drive the conversation. bring some corny jokes or other conversation starters. when the conversation dies a little, just pause and bring out a bad joke or just mention the obvious. don't fret or worry, conversations always have pauses.
don't try for a kiss on the first date, but at the end of the date, make sure you let her know you had a fun time and it would be great to do it again next week. again, don't simp, just casual and calm/cool/collected.
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Consider doing a heavy workout a few hours before the date. This will release your nervous energy and you will be nice and relaxed and confident.
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[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 09:04:16 ago (+1/-0)
Don't talk with your mouth full of food swallow before you say anything don't spit food or or spit
Seriously it's disgusting to see food and other people's mouth when you're talking. Swallow what you eat before you say anything. If she asked you a question in the middle of your eating chewing wait till you finish doing and then talk.
You don't have to buy the best thing they have but also don't buy the cheapest thing. You've decided to go to a steakhouse so expect to spend some money and go ahead and get the best medium meal that they have. If you're going to a steakhouse get a steak. Don't get a damn hamburger.
If no one wants to talk don't try to force a conversation if she wants to talk just listen. Don't you do all the talking. Avoid politics sex and religion in the beginning.
Don't be going through the whole night thinking am I going to get laid am I going to get kissed or am I going to kiss her. Don't think about any of that stuff.
Ask her how our food is when it comes If there's something she doesn't like make sure to ask the waiter to change it. When the waiter comes and brings your food look at her and say do you have what you want is there anything else you want while the waiter is standing there. That impresses the hell out of the girl.
Go to the bathroom before you go on your date.
Don't overthink things don't think you have to think of stuff to talk about don't think you have to think of stuff to do. You've already thought of something to do we just take her to a
Sometimes the best dates are when you both just be quiet and you enjoy the meal. Have a plan on what you're going to do after you finish eating. Don't get rushed by the restaurant to leave. That is your date. If you're going to do something else after the date after the meal think of it and have a little plan say I thought we might go for a walk down the street. Or I thought we might go to this coffee shop after the steakhouse or whatever. But have a plan don't be sitting there fidgeting and thinking. Don't ask the girl what she wants to do what she wants to do what do you want to do what do you want to do. Girls fucking hate that they want you to have some kind of a plan. And she might say she doesn't want to do it and that's fine but the girl doesn't want to be leading in the date.
Remember there are a lot of fish in the sea the chance that it's going to work out with this one is pretty rare but the chance that you can both have fun have a decent meal get to know each other a little better and have a night that's better than sitting home alone is
Don't look at other women especially the waitress if she's hot when you're with another girl eating.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head but for God's sake don't have food in your mouth when you're talking and don't be a fucking slob. Sit up straight eat with your knife and fork put your knife and fork down between bites of food. Cut your food with a knife and fork and eat it. Don't talk with your mouth full leaning forward so you don't spill stuff on your shirt like a slop. Constantly use your napkin and wipe your face if there's something on your mouth or something she doesn't have to look at it for half an hour before she finally tells you you've got something sitting on your mouth that you should have wiped your napkin a half an hour ago.
Make sure you blow your fucking nose before you go anywhere.
If you don't have anything to wear you can always go to a thrift shop and find yourself a shirt for five bucks and a pair of pants little fit you for five bucks. Wear pants that are slightly too big not too small.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:50:11 ago (+0/-0)*
Everyone likes to feel good. Compliments usually do that. It helps if they are true. Being interested in her shit will also make her feel good. Everyone wants to feel attractive and interesting. If you can make her feel that with seeming phoney, youre a shoo in. Focusing on making her feel good/comfortable will also keep you from obsessing over your own internal neurotic narrative , IMO.
Edit: don’t forget to smile. Try to have a good time. She will enjoy herself more if you are enjoying yourself.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:56:55 ago (+2/-0)
I think the talking about general topics news current events route is the way to go.
[ + ] Crackinjokes
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How much is your thing is if you could drop if you could have a vacation anywhere in the world where would you go or do you have any favorite places that you like to go in the city that you're in. Or do you have any pets you like pets. What's your favorite food. Those kinds of things about what the person likes. You want to find out what the person likes you do not want to talk politics or news which is all horrible negative energy stuff.
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[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze 0 points 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 06:19:27 ago (+0/-0)
See my other post for more tips. Like and Subscribe.
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[ + ] Peleg
[ - ] Peleg 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 09:55:21 ago (+1/-0)
Do you know where that phrase, "in like Flynn", came from?
The story goes that Errol Flynn, a movie star years ago, always had very young teenage girls brought to his trailer when on set making movies. He was a pervert and pedophile but never got into trouble about it because he was "IN"! If you were "in like Flynn" you could rape girls and get away with it. You know, kinda like all these degenerate freaks that are doing the same thing now only worse.
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[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 09:08:09 ago (+1/-0)
She wants to be like oh I just spent 2 hours with this dude and we talked about animals and we talked about the stuff I like and he let me cry on his shoulder a little bit about my grandma and now I feel better about that and he asked the waiter if there was anything else I wanted when the waiter came to deliver my steak. And the steak was good. And I didn't have to cook it and that was great.
And to a girl that's a winning night.
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 06:27:37 ago (+1/-0)
If you don't have good interviewer skills, it is at least good practice.
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[ + ] Hobama
[ - ] Hobama 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 02:18:07 ago (+1/-0)
If you have anything in common ask her about that, thats one. Ask her important shit like if she values family etc. thats 2. Come up with one more.
2 drink max. Dont get wasted and act a fool. Dont be a desperate simp, there are plenty of girls. The of it as training. Dont expect to get laid but you should definitely escalate physical contact like a hand touch if you read shes into you. Thats when you bash her and bring her to your cace.
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[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 09:09:03 ago (+0/-0)
Flop your dick on the table and straight up ask her if she is interested or not.
You'll save yourself from wasting a whole evening and possibly having to pay for a meal/movie.
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 09:05:22 ago (+0/-0)
Enjoy your steak.
Don't get a fucking hamburger.
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[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze 0 points 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 06:16:52 ago (+0/-0)
Do not settle for hot-but-crazy. Divorce is painful and expensive and way too easy to file for, so don't let your little head drive.
Also, I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think you need to wait for marriage to have sex, but you should hold out until you are genuinely in love with her.
I said genuinely. Not lust. Love you fucking animal.
If you are strong enough to wait, she will respect that, if she's the kind of person worth respecting back. Make sure she's willing to wait too. If she can't then she'll cheat eventually anyway.
Also, test her. Is she sane when it comes to money? How's she on traditional values? Does she have a higher body count then you? Also, don't listen to her words, women lie and/or don't even understand themselves. Watch how she acts.
Look up "shit tests" and learn about why they do them without knowing it.
Is she on her phone while talking to you? She not that into you. Does she go out of the way to find little reasons to touch you, on the arm say? She really likes you. Which way are her feet pointed when she's speaking to you? If they are pointed at you that means she wants to get closer subconsciously.
Pay attention to her body language. People lie with words, lying with your body is HARD.
Also, understand that women are hypergamous (look it up) by nature. It's in their DNA, so don't rage at them for it. Understand it and climb the ladder to meet their expectations. Ie: Be confident, lead, don't follow, display strength but without scaring her off. Dress nice, be well groomed, but don't look like you put a ton of effort into it. Signal your ability to provide, protect, and father.
DON'T FUCKING BRAG ABOUT YOUR FUCKING MONEY ETC. Be cool, and easy, and humble. Like winning is natural and expected. Like its no big deal.
When it's over don't say "I had a great time" then try to set up a second date.
Remember women are HYPERGAMOUS, they WANT you to be above them in the pecking order, so don't let her know how much you like her or she'll think your lower satis (cus she's your only fish on the line). Let her sweat a little while without knowing if she did ok or not. Two days later, ask her out again.
DO NOT FUCKING COME OFF AS NEEDY OR DESPERATE. DO NOT CHASE, LET HER COME TO YOU.
There's a ton more of course, but just watch youtube for 12 hours or something.
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:14:05 ago (+0/-0)
Serious question. I will straight up give you the answers you seek that served me well more than a decade ago:
https://archive.org/details/liam-mcrae-masculine-touch-blueprint
I’m actually going to review these videos this weekend as I’ve lost a lot of my social skills sitting at a computer for work for the last several years. I’m not trolling. Please listen to this Australian fellow. He was once a pussy and ended up finding great success.
[ + ] MrNiggoriumsBixNoodEmporium
[ - ] MrNiggoriumsBixNoodEmporium [op] 1 point 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:32:52 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:38:19 ago (+2/-0)
Just for like a count one pony two pony then look away slowly. No one wants to be stared down.
[ + ] MrNiggoriumsBixNoodEmporium
[ - ] MrNiggoriumsBixNoodEmporium [op] 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:40:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:02:31 ago (+2/-0)
It's a first date. Hopefully you guys have a similar sense of humor and can spend the night talking about stupid shit.also lean back a bit when sitting. She will copy your body language.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 21:53:37 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:14:49 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:17:10 ago (+1/-0)
We're doomed.
[ + ] MrNiggoriumsBixNoodEmporium
[ - ] MrNiggoriumsBixNoodEmporium [op] 1 point 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:32:50 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 08:45:56 ago (+1/-0)
If you like her you should want to treat her fairly. But thats not what Rooshes book was about. It is not about treating women fairly. It was about abusing women and flushing them ASAP. He now hates his own book. If you think thats a good book, you hate women and you shouldnt marry one.
If youre going to go into this date like women are the enemy, youve already lost. You don’t have to hate women because you haven’t had smashing success with them. Obviously alot of women are in the same boat as you. Good luck.
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 23:51:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 monthsApr 5, 2025 03:05:16 ago (+0/-0)*
The only PUA you need to read is me. Helps I have state AI systems backing me and am a lot better looking than Roosh.
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 1 point 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 22:09:34 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 20:56:23 ago (+0/-0)*
If that are interested they will actually say something positive then something negative. If they do this pause, think and then reply. Don't take the negative seriously
What they want is actually leader, someone they see as dangerous, but that they can control.
You want to be clean, who wants sex with a slob?
Actually this video gives and example
https://youtu.be/U7-BsFAfsHQ
Sort of the beauty and the beast idea.
Anyway you don't have to say lots, they'll talk your ears off.
You don't need to worry about style too much, if you end up forming a relationship they'll end up picking clothes for you.
If the weather is nice, people look best at the golden hour, and hour after sunrise or before sunset. Nice scenery and a picnic works
You can plan some activities if you want, also exercise causes arousal.
If you act like a provider the relationship moves slower
If you make direct eye contact with interest that works
Just try to have fun together, she'll have ideas too, but will want you to take the lead