So all a country has to do is drop their tariffs against the US and they can still produce whatever they want. Why would anybody move to the US unless they get monetary incentives and 5 free niggers for each White person they don't hire?
[ - ] localsal 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 16:21:09 ago (+1/-0)
Which is hilarious, because that is way more than just paying the tariffs.
I agree that increasing domestic production is a good thing, until it's time to pay the bills. And the majority of that production will not be running by the time Trump leaves, meaning that any potential subsidies and tax breaks will be very tenuous.
US workers are also way more expensive than Chinese workers. Unless these production facilities are going to be majorly automated, the cost for goods in the US will be much more than even with Trump's tariffs.
Supposing all that production (about 25% of US gdp) happens, it might actually raise prices in the US by more than 25%, and most US citizens will not benefit from that production wealth distribution and just end up paying more for goods.
I do think production moving back into every country is a good thing, but the growing pains as things catch back up are going to be felt very hard.
Apple with probably debut the iPhone-A for $3000 since it is "built in America" and all the fanbois will lap it up.
It seems to have subsided as the fools have been corrected but it amused me for a while to see all the people claiming that "China was going to pay tariffs." They didn't realize that it's a duty (a tax) that they themselves pay.
This isn't going to impact the wealthy in any meaningful way. It's going to hammer on the poor and middle-class. At this point, for reasons you can probably assume, I'm out of sympathy.
And, yes, it's obvious that increasing domestic production should be a good thing.
Also, the US already manufactures a ton. It's just a smaller part of the GDP as things like services have become a greater part of our income.
Here's some numbers going back at least 30 years...
[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 20:12:04 ago (+1/-0)
It's the same up here, we have throngs of NPCs celebrating retaliatory tariffs, thinking it's going to hurt the U.S. somehow and not them. Pure ignorance, although I have no sympathy for them, I'm stuck in the same middle class boat... and trying to educate them leads to headaches and depression.
There's something often ignored about rebuilding the manufacturing sector and it's qualified labour. So much know-how has been lost to previous generations kicking the bucket, there's a huge training & teaching hurdle to overcome. I don't see young'uns jumping into manual labour wilfully for the most part. Our Canuck manufacturing sector has been seriously gutted, we have some great niche industries but general manufacturing is almost dead, machinery sold overseas.
Fortunately, since I'm not fuck-you rich like yourself, I've been goaling for self sufficiency for a long time and am not dependent on stores for much. Fresh dairy & meat straight from the farmer for pennies on the dollar, indoor gardening in the winter... Heck, I'm rebuilding a 36yo F350 with a Navistar 7.3L IDI so I won't be dependent on gas stations much, I already built a WMO centrifuge to filter used oil (Getting loads of it from customers) and run it on black diesel. Now I just have to find a cheap 30Kw+ diesel genset to power my place :D
If you get good injectors (including the valve and pressure systems) then you're good to go. I'd keep a cam sensor handy and ensure the turbos get oiled properly.
If you do all that and maintain it, you can get a million miles out of that engine. It's good choice that was refined over time. I'd probably aim for a newer one as they worked out some bugs and they're less prone to leaky gaskets shitting oil all over your engine.
One thing people don't realize and think about is exactly how long some of us can go without purchasing anything significant. I can damned near feed myself without a traditional grocery store.
I know that folks scoff at EVs, but I generate more energy than I use. I don't own a pure EV yet, but they're certainly available and require almost no upkeep. I also have diesel as an option and a giant tank of heating oil that's buried in the ground. Ain't nobody gonna notice if I put that in my tank. It's not like I'm a commercial driver.
But, it's the level of ignorance shown by people...
How the fuck do they so seriously get it wrong that they think someone else will be paying their tariffs for them?!? Did they fail to graduate from middle school? Who failed them along the way to make them this dumb?
The almost-amusing thing is that the next administration is just going to overturn a ton of this. Trump's supporters skew to the lower end with regard to income. They're the ones buying the cheap shit from China. They're the ones who are going to be paying these added fees. I wonder if that'll help them think more clearly?
[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 4 weeksApr 3, 2025 20:14:32 ago (+1/-0)
I went with naturally aspired, I didn't want the added maintenance and issues of a turbo. I don't really care for added performance as it's more of a rough & tough build aiming for maximum reliability. No cam sensor either, just the tach sensor on the injection pump... since I have a ZF5 tranny, it won't affect anything but the gauge in the cluster if it goes bad.
I love being able to shack it up and not see anybody if I don't want to, the only reason I voluntarily go into town maybe once a month is to see friends and family, do my social rounds. I can't stand to go into big stores anymore, if I do it's a beeline for what I need and the cash register.
EVs... If I were younger and optimistic, I'd be getting into battery pack maintenance. My buddy opens them up, tests them with fancy software and knows exactly what packet to take out and replace to revive the vehicle. He makes bank while people still save thousands upon thousands in costs. I'll stick to making black diesel for driving & heating, it's more red necky :)
I've been working for an old school dairy farmer who owns a shop since july, I work with the poster children for boomer NPCs. Evberyday I'm reminded of how fucked we are, lol... it's painful at times to listen to them talk.
Part of me hopes that Trump and Carney really are the chosen figureheads for north american globohomo, there to enact the north american economic zone plans with the amero as a common currency. The tariff war being a distraction from frail economies and unsustainable social security policies bound to implode at some point. Who knows what type of administration we'd have after that.
That should last you for quite a while. It's a solid engine choice.
In my head, today was Friday. I've had pneumonia for a while now and am about to start a new round of antibiotics. Getting old ain't easy.
I think Trump is just a moron who half-understands what he's doing and does a ton of stuff out of spite.
That's not dissimilar to our other politicians.
As for living environments, I live where I do for a reason. Well, a bunch of reasons. I think many of those reasons go without saying and are relatively obvious. I am also in a position where I can travel if needed. I an not tied to living in the US. I have an advanced degree and a few bucks, so I can go to pretty much any nation on the planet and they'll make room for me. At most, they'll ask me to invest in their economy and I consider that a reasonable request. As it stands, I'm even invested in the Canadian economy, albeit not very much.
I like EVs in theory and I think they have a place in a modern infrastructure. I'm not sure that EVs will be our end point. There are a number of viable gasoline alternatives that don't require a huge infrastructure and work with existing ICE powered vehicles. I don't feel comfortable predicting the future, but those may have a place in our future energy use.
I'm hoping for the latter because I own a bunch of cars and I enjoy the hobby. Gasoline is going to be available for as long as I'm going to live, but it may become quite costly - leaving ICE powered cars a hobby of those who can afford them, which is not unlike how they started life.
Ah well... We'll see...
It's good to hear you're doing well up there in the Cold North. I've long since learned to tune out the unimportant bits from people who are paying me money. You can tell something stupid is going to come out of their mouth when they say something like, "I researched it!"
[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 10:14:47 ago (+1/-0)
Sorry to hear aboot the pneumonia, make sure you have optimal air quality bud, it's common during winter to expose ourselves to overly dry or stale air and get inflammation in the lungs. I always have a kettle on the wood stove to help breathe better.
As it stands, I'm even invested in the Canadian economy, albeit not very much.
Sorry to hear, lol! I hope it's not related to real estate because our market is starting to go down, Toronto is the best example. Pre-construction condos are losing value like crazy and people are having trouble closing or want to run away, there are more and more lawsuits from developers going after defaulting buyers. Single-family and town house developments aren't far behind either. Mortgage renewals aren't looking good either, people went loco during covid with soaring property prices but still low interest rates back then. Times are catching up...
Worse come to worse, you end up with a museum collection of ICE vehicles but probably not in your lifetime like you say.
Oh, it's real estate. I have property (improved and unimproved) on Nova Scotia.
Fortunately, it's not that valuable. I could lose the entire value and be just fine. I also have other investments, which are mostly bonds. Those should be just fine. I don't do the short-term market very often as steady growth is more than I spend and I don't need the risk of shorter term gains.
Plus, the long term stuff gets a much more favorable tax burden. I get a lower tax burden in the US for long-term gains but that's okay. Diversity matters in this case.
One thing Canada does have is a limit on the amount you can enjoy the longer term capital gains rates. It's a lifetime limit and I forget the exact figures at the moment but I know I'm not anywhere near that amount.
Yes, I pay taxes in Canada (and elsewhere). Most of my taxes go to the US and to my state of Maine. Though, that really indicates where I'm most heavily invested. The NYSE is getting hammered on at this point and that's okay, I guess. I saw that coming and we took steps to prepare for any losses.
At the same time, I can gamble on the long term. I can buy now at a discounted price with the belief that the values are going to go back up. This being the US economy, and I being in no rush, means I should be safe enough doing so.
I realize that you're just recently becoming self-sufficient but if you can make your assets work for you, that is to move to the investor class, you can do quite a bit to secure your own future. The more your assets (money, property, etc) work for you, the less you have to work - or the more you'll make with less effort.
Nothing is guaranteed but if you know what you can risk you're doing better than a huge percentage of the global population.
Argentina, Israel, Mexico and Canada are run by Israeli straw men & women .. this supposed victory on the "tarrifs" front by the Trumpers has been carefully choreographed to make Trump look like a tough leader ..
Exactly; this is all scripted theater — like watching a WWF match or an NFL, NBA, Indy 500 sports-tainment thing-a-ma-digger. Keep the plebs entertained and distracted with meaningless shit while you roll out your agenda unabated.
Welcome to your new 15-minute city; what's your social credit score?
[ + ] Consensus_Reality
[ - ] Consensus_Reality 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 22:16:24 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker [op] 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 23:42:08 ago (+1/-0)
- https://x.com/AFpost/status/1907552361226133971
The Jews dropped all tariffs, and then Trump Jew'd them back instantly on the same day.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 2 points 1 monthApr 2, 2025 16:07:28 ago (+2/-0)
Unfortunately, the "sleeping giant" of WW2 is now a midget and can't really get huge manufacturing running for a long time.
[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker [op] 5 points 1 monthApr 2, 2025 16:11:36 ago (+5/-0)
Steel, Coal, Copper, Advanced Computer Chips, Naval construction, Auto, Oil, Pharmaceuticals, and more.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 16:21:09 ago (+1/-0)
I agree that increasing domestic production is a good thing, until it's time to pay the bills. And the majority of that production will not be running by the time Trump leaves, meaning that any potential subsidies and tax breaks will be very tenuous.
US workers are also way more expensive than Chinese workers. Unless these production facilities are going to be majorly automated, the cost for goods in the US will be much more than even with Trump's tariffs.
Supposing all that production (about 25% of US gdp) happens, it might actually raise prices in the US by more than 25%, and most US citizens will not benefit from that production wealth distribution and just end up paying more for goods.
I do think production moving back into every country is a good thing, but the growing pains as things catch back up are going to be felt very hard.
Apple with probably debut the iPhone-A for $3000 since it is "built in America" and all the fanbois will lap it up.
[ + ] TheRealBuddha
[ - ] TheRealBuddha 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 17:30:24 ago (+1/-0)
This isn't going to impact the wealthy in any meaningful way. It's going to hammer on the poor and middle-class. At this point, for reasons you can probably assume, I'm out of sympathy.
And, yes, it's obvious that increasing domestic production should be a good thing.
Also, the US already manufactures a ton. It's just a smaller part of the GDP as things like services have become a greater part of our income.
Here's some numbers going back at least 30 years...
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/manufacturing-output
We make all sorts of shit here in the US.
I don't know why (cough cough) there's confusion.
Let's just say that my real name can be discovered and attached to my posting history.
[ + ] Rotteuxx
[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 1 monthApr 2, 2025 20:12:04 ago (+1/-0)
There's something often ignored about rebuilding the manufacturing sector and it's qualified labour. So much know-how has been lost to previous generations kicking the bucket, there's a huge training & teaching hurdle to overcome. I don't see young'uns jumping into manual labour wilfully for the most part. Our Canuck manufacturing sector has been seriously gutted, we have some great niche industries but general manufacturing is almost dead, machinery sold overseas.
Fortunately, since I'm not fuck-you rich like yourself, I've been goaling for self sufficiency for a long time and am not dependent on stores for much. Fresh dairy & meat straight from the farmer for pennies on the dollar, indoor gardening in the winter... Heck, I'm rebuilding a 36yo F350 with a Navistar 7.3L IDI so I won't be dependent on gas stations much, I already built a WMO centrifuge to filter used oil (Getting loads of it from customers) and run it on black diesel. Now I just have to find a cheap 30Kw+ diesel genset to power my place :D
[ + ] TheRealBuddha
[ - ] TheRealBuddha 1 point 4 weeksApr 3, 2025 19:02:06 ago (+1/-0)
If you do all that and maintain it, you can get a million miles out of that engine. It's good choice that was refined over time. I'd probably aim for a newer one as they worked out some bugs and they're less prone to leaky gaskets shitting oil all over your engine.
One thing people don't realize and think about is exactly how long some of us can go without purchasing anything significant. I can damned near feed myself without a traditional grocery store.
I know that folks scoff at EVs, but I generate more energy than I use. I don't own a pure EV yet, but they're certainly available and require almost no upkeep. I also have diesel as an option and a giant tank of heating oil that's buried in the ground. Ain't nobody gonna notice if I put that in my tank. It's not like I'm a commercial driver.
But, it's the level of ignorance shown by people...
How the fuck do they so seriously get it wrong that they think someone else will be paying their tariffs for them?!? Did they fail to graduate from middle school? Who failed them along the way to make them this dumb?
The almost-amusing thing is that the next administration is just going to overturn a ton of this. Trump's supporters skew to the lower end with regard to income. They're the ones buying the cheap shit from China. They're the ones who are going to be paying these added fees. I wonder if that'll help them think more clearly?
[ + ] Rotteuxx
[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 4 weeksApr 3, 2025 20:14:32 ago (+1/-0)
I love being able to shack it up and not see anybody if I don't want to, the only reason I voluntarily go into town maybe once a month is to see friends and family, do my social rounds. I can't stand to go into big stores anymore, if I do it's a beeline for what I need and the cash register.
EVs... If I were younger and optimistic, I'd be getting into battery pack maintenance. My buddy opens them up, tests them with fancy software and knows exactly what packet to take out and replace to revive the vehicle. He makes bank while people still save thousands upon thousands in costs. I'll stick to making black diesel for driving & heating, it's more red necky :)
I've been working for an old school dairy farmer who owns a shop since july, I work with the poster children for boomer NPCs. Evberyday I'm reminded of how fucked we are, lol... it's painful at times to listen to them talk.
Part of me hopes that Trump and Carney really are the chosen figureheads for north american globohomo, there to enact the north american economic zone plans with the amero as a common currency. The tariff war being a distraction from frail economies and unsustainable social security policies bound to implode at some point. Who knows what type of administration we'd have after that.
[ + ] TheRealBuddha
[ - ] TheRealBuddha 0 points 4 weeksApr 3, 2025 20:26:47 ago (+0/-0)
In my head, today was Friday. I've had pneumonia for a while now and am about to start a new round of antibiotics. Getting old ain't easy.
I think Trump is just a moron who half-understands what he's doing and does a ton of stuff out of spite.
That's not dissimilar to our other politicians.
As for living environments, I live where I do for a reason. Well, a bunch of reasons. I think many of those reasons go without saying and are relatively obvious. I am also in a position where I can travel if needed. I an not tied to living in the US. I have an advanced degree and a few bucks, so I can go to pretty much any nation on the planet and they'll make room for me. At most, they'll ask me to invest in their economy and I consider that a reasonable request. As it stands, I'm even invested in the Canadian economy, albeit not very much.
I like EVs in theory and I think they have a place in a modern infrastructure. I'm not sure that EVs will be our end point. There are a number of viable gasoline alternatives that don't require a huge infrastructure and work with existing ICE powered vehicles. I don't feel comfortable predicting the future, but those may have a place in our future energy use.
I'm hoping for the latter because I own a bunch of cars and I enjoy the hobby. Gasoline is going to be available for as long as I'm going to live, but it may become quite costly - leaving ICE powered cars a hobby of those who can afford them, which is not unlike how they started life.
Ah well... We'll see...
It's good to hear you're doing well up there in the Cold North. I've long since learned to tune out the unimportant bits from people who are paying me money. You can tell something stupid is going to come out of their mouth when they say something like, "I researched it!"
[ + ] Rotteuxx
[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 10:14:47 ago (+1/-0)
Sorry to hear, lol! I hope it's not related to real estate because our market is starting to go down, Toronto is the best example. Pre-construction condos are losing value like crazy and people are having trouble closing or want to run away, there are more and more lawsuits from developers going after defaulting buyers. Single-family and town house developments aren't far behind either. Mortgage renewals aren't looking good either, people went loco during covid with soaring property prices but still low interest rates back then. Times are catching up...
Worse come to worse, you end up with a museum collection of ICE vehicles but probably not in your lifetime like you say.
[ + ] TheRealBuddha
[ - ] TheRealBuddha 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 20:17:58 ago (+0/-0)
Fortunately, it's not that valuable. I could lose the entire value and be just fine. I also have other investments, which are mostly bonds. Those should be just fine. I don't do the short-term market very often as steady growth is more than I spend and I don't need the risk of shorter term gains.
Plus, the long term stuff gets a much more favorable tax burden. I get a lower tax burden in the US for long-term gains but that's okay. Diversity matters in this case.
One thing Canada does have is a limit on the amount you can enjoy the longer term capital gains rates. It's a lifetime limit and I forget the exact figures at the moment but I know I'm not anywhere near that amount.
Yes, I pay taxes in Canada (and elsewhere). Most of my taxes go to the US and to my state of Maine. Though, that really indicates where I'm most heavily invested. The NYSE is getting hammered on at this point and that's okay, I guess. I saw that coming and we took steps to prepare for any losses.
At the same time, I can gamble on the long term. I can buy now at a discounted price with the belief that the values are going to go back up. This being the US economy, and I being in no rush, means I should be safe enough doing so.
I realize that you're just recently becoming self-sufficient but if you can make your assets work for you, that is to move to the investor class, you can do quite a bit to secure your own future. The more your assets (money, property, etc) work for you, the less you have to work - or the more you'll make with less effort.
Nothing is guaranteed but if you know what you can risk you're doing better than a huge percentage of the global population.
[ + ] Jinglebanger
[ - ] Jinglebanger 0 points 1 monthApr 2, 2025 19:53:19 ago (+0/-0)
Cars, steel, aluminum. I wonder what we'll be building with that.
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