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Advice needed, vaccinations

submitted by anon to AnonWhatever 4 weeksMar 31, 2025 22:14:11 ago (+7/-0)     (AnonWhatever)

Guys, I’m getting a little scared from all the fear mongering regarding measles. I am really wondering if I am doing wrong by by not getting children vaccinations. Part of me is scared to death and wants to go get the vaccines done to be safe. Part of me is scared to death of getting a rare bad reaction from the vaccine. I’m talking mmr.

I’m really split here and freaking out.
And before you call me shitbrained pussy, try to put yourself in a parent’s shoes. You will do anything to keep your kids safe. And you definitely don’t want to inadvertently put them at risk of such a horrible disease.
The other day you guys posted about a child dying of measles and it’s really plaguing me. I can’t ever imagine being in a position that harms your child especially if it was preventable.

So guys, instead of judging, please help me out and give me the most scientific reasons to help me make my decision.


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[ - ] Panic 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 12:30:42 ago (+1/-0)

Hey OP, do you have your kids in public schools? Those places are germ factories. For Chrissakes, homeschool the little ones!

Secondly, guess what percentage of children have gotten measles in America. It's about zero point zero zero (add more zeroes as the truth sinks in). You do not know ANYBODY with measles. So your kids cannot possibly get measles.

Do your homework and turn of the boob tube.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 18:44:11 ago (+0/-0)

We homeschool.
I actually didn’t know how low the percentage of children with measles was! And yes, I do not know anyone who has measles! 🤔

[ - ] anon 3602746 -2 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:14:02 ago (+0/-2)

How old are your children? That will be the most important factor in your decision. If they are infants, I would probably pass on the vaccinations. If they are maybe 3+, I'd seriously consider getting them. I've never heard of many MMR adverse reactions in young children or adults, in fact I had a booster when there was a local outbreak about five years ago and had absolutely no issues. One other thing, only the Pfizer and Moderna Covid-19 shots are mRNA vaccines that are currently available to the public, so you don't have to worry about that. And lastly, my advice is only what "I" would do if I were in your shoes. It's up to you to decide what's the right course for your family.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:38:54 ago (+0/-0)

They are 3-5.

I've never heard of many MMR adverse reactions in young children or adults

What about mmr giving children autism?

[ - ] anon 3602746 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 11:48:30 ago (+0/-0)

Whether MMR vaccines cause autism is a very, very hotly debated topic. While I personally believe there is some connection, mountains of conventional scientific studies have concluded that there isn't, FWTW. If your children are in the 3-5 age range and they are not showing any signs of cognitive impairment, I personally would not worry about the MMR shot having any significant negative effects on them. Most - if not all of the (supposed) associations of autism and the MMR vaccine are linked with administering it to children <1 year old. Again, this is my own personal opinion; what I would do if I were in your shoes, but ultimately it's your decision to make.

[ - ] anon 1984834 2 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 08:31:05 ago (+2/-0)

Ask God. Not nerds. If you ask me its wise to err on the side of caution. The plandemic was democide

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 18:40:41 ago (+0/-0)

Which caution are we siding on?
To jab or not to jab?

[ - ] anon 1984834 0 points 4 weeksApr 2, 2025 11:30:50 ago (+0/-0)

Ask God. Don't ask the state. Those guys are all fake and gay.

[ - ] anon 3511647 2 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 07:46:04 ago (+2/-0)

OP, Check out the NVIC website. https://www.nvic.org/disease-vaccine/measles/quick-facts

Barbara Loe Fisher is a very good resource to follow. She's done a lot of research on all vaccines.

Before my kids were born my ex-wife and I did our own research on vaccines and we decided against giving any. They never got measles, or any other disease which vaccines are available for. My kids are grown and out of the house now. When they were older they both made decisions on getting a few vaccines either for work or college reasons. My daughter took the MMR as a requirement for getting into Stanford. She got really sick from the jab. When covid hit Stanford wouldn't let her back in without the covid jab. She told them to pound sand and finished up her schooling at a different college.

We got a lot of resistance from schools and doctors to vaccinate the kids but never bent the knee to them. You went through the same thing with covid I'm sure and look how that turned out. Do your research and make the decisons based on that. It's not easy but as a parent you owe it to your kids to what's right for them. Once they're older, they're on their own and can make their own decisions.

As far as "rare" bad reactions, they are much more common than deaths from measles itself (in The US):

As of February 28, 2025, there have been 116,162 reports of measles-vaccine reactions, hospitalizations, injuries, and deaths following measles vaccinations made to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), including 573 related deaths, 9,023 hospitalizations, and 2,214 related disabilities. Approximately 50 percent of those adverse events occurred in children under three years of age.

As of January 1, 2025, there have been 1,379 claims filed in the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) for injuries and deaths following measles vaccination, for 85 deaths and 1,294 serious injuries.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:41:50 ago (+0/-0)*

Mrna jabs weren’t even a question for us. We were not gonna get them no matter what. Mostly because they are a new technology with no track record. However, for traditional vaccines, we got it as children so it just plagues the mind if by denying it to our kids are we putting them in harm’s way.

Edit: thanks for the link. I’ll read it after work.

[ - ] SithEmpire 3 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 07:31:39 ago (+3/-0)

Medicine has been so dirty for so long that the truth is basically lost by now.

At this point, the only evidence I actually trust is that milk-maids would catch cow-pox, recover, then become immune to smallpox. It was a widespread and clear observation, the women were disproportionately unaffected by a deadly disease and the only common factor was their dairy farm vocation. I can believe the same concept working for some other diseases (but not all, that seems impossible). The trouble is modern science, especially medicine, is not to be trusted.

I imagine there exists genuine immunisations one can take for travel, given how often the world's elite has to do it, but doing it domestically seems like a sham to me. Think about it, you're deliberately overloading your immune system to train it against one specific thing. That has a generality cost; nature designed it to work gradually over time by sampling the local biological flora and adapting as needed.

I think the best approach is to fuel the immune system, not abuse it. That means vitamin D, especially if living in a country with lower than average sunlight. Look up what should be appropriate quantities for a given age, versus how much is in any multi-vitamins taken. As an adult I take at least one 25 microgram (1000 IU) vitamin D daily, although I know up to 100 microgram (4000 IU) is fine.

Also the best approach with fast-mutating viruses is working with that fact, not against it. Stay home while symptomatic, but also make a specific point of gathering with friends while asymptomatic! This rewards virus strains for not affecting humans, helping those strains to become dominant in the evolutionary sense.

Also if it's not too late, note that protecting young children against known allergens is a sure way to GIVE THEM THE ALLERGY. Exposure during development is what prevents the allergy.

If "asthma" is ever a problem, look up the Buteyko breathing method, cured the fuck out of me at age 8 and taught me a lot about medicine not doing so (also fuck the "peak flow test" device, it's basically designed to keep symptoms going).

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:36:57 ago (+0/-0)

I have never given any meds to them. I don’t know if it’s safe to give young kids synthetic vitamin D. We eat butter and fish and meat, and go in the sun any opportunity we get. You think I should give vitamin D? What about vitamin A? They say vitamin A cures measles, but synthetic vitamin A is very controversial otherwise.

Regarding allergens, we gave them egg yolks as a first solid and later we had nuts and fish and whatnot. No allergies in our family so far.

[ - ] SithEmpire 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 12:26:21 ago (+0/-0)

That diet will provide plenty of vitamin D; I imagine the only supplementary vitamin D question would be how much one can "overclock" it, which needs an effectively unnecessary blood test to get a number. A supplement being too much at once for a child is more of an issue than being synthetic, but either way it sounds like immune system fuel is covered. Could be worth checking/knowing whether any processed foods (cereals, spreads) have extra vitamins.

Dairy (milk, cheese, egg) gives vitamin A; add carrots for an extra source convertible into vitamin A.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 18:36:22 ago (+0/-0)

Aah, thanks! We don’t eat cereals and spreads but we do get milk that has vitamin A. I have been trying to get liver in our diet but tbh it’s very hard because of the strong taste

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 05:01:36 ago (+0/-0)

This is why you have 2-3, so that one is disposable. Get one vaxxed and if that works out then get another. Then so on and so on.

If you lose a couple take a break and make a couple more, then repeat the process.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:42:13 ago (+1/-0)

Not funny

[ - ] anon 7764400 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 04:43:12 ago (+1/-0)

Look at the facts. We know undeniably they tried to poison (at best) or kill us all during covid. Would you trust a murderous psychopath because they claim to have the cure for all the scary stuff they are telling you about?

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] -1 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:45:50 ago (+0/-1)

No, but we all got these traditional vaccines as kids. So it’s really terrifying if I am not doing right by my kids and inadvertently putting them at risk.
On the other hand, I don’t understand why the demonic rulers would care for our health when their goal is depopulation and White genocide.
It’s really confusing and scary out here for parents.

[ - ] anon 3770247 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 10:11:13 ago (+1/-0)

The vaccines 40 years ago are much different than the vaccines of today. Today all of the "stabilizers" and other "benign" parts of the chemical cocktail are way more potent than they used to be. Some would say this is by design, some just say it is a cohencidence.

Vaccines are the most likely weapon of choice for depopulation, due to the broad acceptance and easily hidden chemicals.

Sounds like your kids are 3-5, and just keeping them away from other kids for a while could let the measles scare die out if you don't want to try the jabs.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 18:39:57 ago (+0/-0)

All True!
But I’m gonna be honest keeping them away from other kids is really hard because they insist on going to the play group and we do take the train regularly for trips downtown. I’m scared of catching it on those occasions since measles is highly contagious.

[ - ] anon 2395491 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 02:45:23 ago (+1/-0)

Every vaccine is a genocide. Full stop.

I have two kids of my own, and I read every single paper about vaccines before they were born. unvaccinated people do not suffer nine out of 10 of the top leading causes of death.

For the record I was the COVID czar at the department of health in Hawaii. I quit as a whistleblower.

I was also the IT director for 13 school districts and worked closely with the head of the autism department. He gave me everyday to point there was about autism being a vaccine injury. It is very conclusive.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 09:48:48 ago (+0/-0)

Oh man, this is shocking yet not surprising

[ - ] Whatthefuck 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 01:16:55 ago (+1/-0)

What's the efficacy of the vaccine and the percent reduction in risk? If you can't even answer that question, you're just an emotional retard.

If the argument isn't falsifiable, it isn't an argument in the first place, it's just emotional manipulation.

Rest easy friend. Do no harm to your children. What scientific proof do you rely on that proves the vaccination means they can never get measles or be harmed by it? Remember that consensus isn't science, it's politics.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 00:36:29 ago (+1/-0)

No vaccines
None, ever
Vaccines impair your immune system, they do not help it.
Do your own research.
Read actual peer reviewed studies, not newspaper articles.
Decide for yourself.
Study the history of vaccines and you'll find most epidemics over the last 150 years were caused by vaccines and not once has any disease ever been cured by vaccines

[ - ] anon 3104519 0 points 4 weeksMar 31, 2025 23:03:10 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 00:23:28 ago (+1/-0)

I saw this the other day and I’m ngl, this really surprised me. All our lives we were told measles is a death sentence but the generations before us treated it like chickenpox, if not a flu!
I was actually shocked!

[ - ] anon 1342508 1 point 4 weeksMar 31, 2025 22:35:05 ago (+1/-0)

Here is my take fwiw:

without vaccines, viruses or whatever they are, run their course. They may kill some in the height of virility. Eventually, immunity will happen, and we need not eorry about it for a generation.

Edward Jenner figured out that a dead sample of the virus (or whatever it is) imparts immunity. Most vaccines are based on this, but pharmaceutical companies want a long shelf life so they use a "soluble" from of mercury called thermiosal. There is where the problems start.

Yes, humans can impart immunity from a traditional vaccine. It isn't the virus, it is the preservative. mrna vaccines are clearly a menace.

Look up thermiosal and make your own decision. Stop believing people who have no idea about anything.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 00:16:48 ago (+1/-0)

Man, the more I look the more it’s muddled

[ - ] anon 3770247 11 points 4 weeksMar 31, 2025 22:26:12 ago (+11/-0)

First off, the kid didn't die of measles. There were a couple posts on here how the hospital negligence caused the death. The kid had pneumonia, which the hospital failed to diagnose, and then actually delayed administering the proper treatment for 12 hours after the correct diagnosis, leading to the kids unfortunate death. Hospital will give out a huge settlement in due time.

As for MMR, the first thing to look for is whether the (((vaccine))) is mRNA or traditional. This should be in the insert. If the doc won't show the insert, walk away fast.

Age of kids matters too. Taking any (((vaccine))) below 3 years of age is definitely not a good thing. Too many complications can happen leading to allergies or autism.

If necessary, ask for just the measles shot. Most docs won't do just the measles, because the kickback is not as big, but the standard "just measles" does exist if you push hard enough.

But, in the spirit of full information, measles is not as deadly as portrayed by the (((media))), something like 1 death in 10,000 and only in the last 30-40 years has the scare tactics been used.

Funnily enough in 2006 the US declared measles eradicated. But then came the invaders, all unvaccinated, and with those stinking invaders the diseases ramped up.

I haven't heard a death total from the previous outbreaks, but I doubt it was as bad as anyone said. Research other outbreaks to try to get any stats you might like, but all the data might be jew lies.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 00:14:55 ago (+1/-0)

I’m researching. But all the first ten pages of results are regurgitating each other, saying how deadly it is to not vaccinate. They akin it to killing your children

[ - ] puremadness 2 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 01:58:52 ago (+2/-0)

Then recognize it for what it clearly is and dont take the bait.
Don't take yours around anyone with measles.
Lots of greens and they grow up big and strong.

It's worked for hundreds of years.

[ - ] SithEmpire 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 06:50:36 ago (+1/-0)

This part looks super relevant:

Most docs won't do just the measles, because the kickback is not as big, but the standard "just measles" does exist if you push hard enough.

I'd say if there's a kickback at all, it has to be a sham! Even if there exists an actual substance which does help, I'd doubt that's what's being administered.

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 4 weeksMar 31, 2025 22:24:57 ago (+3/-2)

vax your entire family we need you to reproduce and improve the gene pool

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 00:15:42 ago (+1/-0)

I said no jabs, just helpful information please

[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 4 weeksMar 31, 2025 22:22:20 ago (+1/-0)

Thank you. I've had the same thoughts. the girl though in the story you are referring to didn't end up dying of measles it was a fuck up on the doctors end.

I've made a comment before that this is where the older people need to step in and say something ( what to expect, how they dealt with theirs or their childrens when they had it) because its been a few generations since anyone has seen measles and of course we're going to freak out about it and then you start thinking ok but that was old measles what about new foreign measles are they both the same and that where the mind fuck comes in.

[ - ] Looneyskiprooney 1 point 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 06:52:41 ago (+1/-0)

Like the mindfuck of jews naming elders boomers

[ - ] Peleg 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 13:02:22 ago (+0/-0)

Exactly like that.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 00:16:05 ago (+0/-0)

What decision have you come to?

[ - ] anon 3002679 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 13:58:51 ago (+0/-0)

so far i havent done anything. Mine are 7 and 4 and the comment you got
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=67eb4bf359450&commentid=67ebe69a9ff2a

just has me more confused. I've thought that before maybe start the older a shot at a time but...what if? I have an older one (20) that had all of her vaccines but they weren't fucking with things as hard as they are right now as back then.

[ - ] anon 6660872 [op] 0 points 4 weeksApr 1, 2025 18:47:25 ago (+0/-0)

I know, I’m confused too! But I know it’s coming from fear as a parent and that’s probably what the media is banking on. Nonetheless, it’s not helping because you don’t want to put your child at risk