I don't give a rusty fuck whether they're "fully legal" students. I don't care that they're protesting Israel's behavior. I take offense that they're protesting at all. They're foreigners, and when they're on American soil, they need to keep the politics to themselves. When you're in a country generous enough to allow foreign nationals to live and study, you don't show your gratitude by imposing making a public scene.
They're not citizens. That kind of freedom of speech is reserved for citizens only. Does anyone remember the fact that when Bill Clinton was at Oxford studying on a Rhodes scholarship, he participated in protests against the Vietnam war? True story. This sort of thing embarrasses both the host country and the foreign national's country of origin, and make the person look bad mannered and uncouth.
Exactly this. A good analogy is an invited friend into a house. If that friend acts up or starts saying things the host family is not in favor of, they have every right to kick that friend out of the house.
A family member can say the things but has much more protections when speaking up. Not the friend though.
Yes, it is also a matter of manners - given the rare privilege of being educated in the US? Better be on good behavior.
That kind of freedom of speech is reserved for citizens only
No it isn't, you utterly dumb fuck.
Congress shall make no law ...
The UK isn't the United States, and they are arresting British citizens for sharing memes.
You think that you being a citizen is gonna prevent you from being sent to a foreign prison with no due process if you protest Israel hard enough. Dumb fuckin' idiot.
The rights described in the Bill of Rights apply ONLY to citizens. Just because someone is in the country, it doesn't mean they have full citizenship, nor do they have the protections and rights of a citizen. Why are you so anxious to let foreigners do whatever the fuck they want in this country? Honestly, some people on the right are just as bad as liberals.
No they don't you illiterate fucking retard. They apply to the US Federal Government and, by extention, every state Government in the country. "Congress shall make no law ..." doesn't have an exception and seems pretty fucking clear. Are you saying that the federal government would be allowed to torture non-citizens, too?
No one is letting foreigners "do whatever the fuck they want" you strawmmanning fuckin' faggot. Trump is removing 300 highly educated students because they criticized Israel, which isn't against the law. You're fucking next.
I wasn't debating. He wanted to argue and I didn't. I wasn't even addressing him. He started insulting me and I lost interest because he was acting like a dick and didn't deserve my time.
I'm okay with the USG violating the rights of non-citizens up to and including sending them to foreign prisons known for abuse for the rest of their lives, but don't call me mean names!!!
You're a fucking faggot. Literally put a gun in your mouth and pull the fucking trigger!
Are you suggesting the JIDF guy is the guy calling out the Trump Administration for sucking jew dick so hard that he's willing to violate human rights to protect faggy jews in colleges of the Ivy League?
Calling a batshit crazy jew bish a "crazy jew bish" is what JIDF does? Nigger, have you any idea what I've posted about Laura Loomer? She's actually raped 2 guys. She slashed her own tires to hold a gofundme that paid for the nose job that OP describes. She literally handcuffed herself to the entrance of Twitter cause they banned her. Hell, she even suggested that a Florida politician was antasuhmetik because they wouldn't let her in to their campaign event.
JIDF posts this kind of stuff about other jews? Are you fucking retarded?
Oh wait, it's because I said that I like that crazy bish, right? Fuckin' moron.
You aren't arguing this with me cause you're full of shit, and you know it.
Again, it says "Congress shall make no law ..." and it doesn't mention anything about exceptions for non-citizens. Freedom of speech isn't something our government gets to decide which people get and which people don't get. It isn't a treat that only some people enjoy. It's a God given right. We don't force non-citizens to be a certain religion. We don't make special laws barring their freedom of assembly or their ability to spread news, or to redress greivances. These students didn't break the law. They are being deported, with no due process, because they said something that the jews felt was upsetting. You are letting this country be run by a bunch of un-American israeli suck-dicks and they ain't gonna give a fuck when you decide war for Israel is a bad thing and decide to say something about it, too. They will do the same to you. Did you learn anything from Bush and his War on Terror? You think the Patriot Act only applies to non-citizens? You think the government is only spying on non-citizens?
Now do England, or Spain, or Germany, or Romania. LOL.
"Oh, but free speech is only in the US Constitution!!! Nobody else promises free speech."
How is that a God given right then? If it was God given, it would be universal, everywhere.
England is locking up Whites for twitter posts about migrants, Spain is trying to send Isabela Peralta to prison for 3 years for a Roman salute, Romania is trying to block 2 presidential candidates for not wanting migrants and opposing the EU charter, and Germany arrested and sentenced to prison 93 year old Ursula Haverbeck for holocaust denial.
You have a weird sense of what "God given" means.
As for the US Constitution - if that is the only piece of paper in the world that actually addresses the "God given" nature of free speech, then free speech is a privilege, and another piece of paper (Executive Order) can just as easily take that privilege away, especially for foreigners.
Again I will ask for proof of US citizens caught up in any of this deportation drama.
Now do England, or Spain, or Germany, or Romania. LOL.
Countries that violate people's rights and makes America better than them for $300, dickwad.
You have a weird sense of what "God given" means.
You need a lesson in US history or sum shit.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
Being God given rights doesn't mean a government can't violate them. You have a God given right to live, doesn't mean that I can't turn your head into a canoe.
You need to learn how rights work, ya dumb faggot.
One, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" (used to be "property". LOL
This is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence does not set up any formal ruling powers of the US Government. So try again.
Second, "free speech" is not even in the Declaration of Independence, even as a grievance. Free speech appears in the Constitution, ratified 14 years after the Declaration of Independence.
Third, you are saying that governments violate rights all the time, so why is this such a big turd to you? You seem so butthurt that a few people are possibly being shipped off to some prison, with no proof at all that you can post, while there are other more pressing issues at play.
Your arguments are so far in the weeds that a retard wouldn't even get that far.
Here's a thought - any of these non-citizens that is afraid of going to whatever max prison for life, can even the odds by getting a firearm, right? Second Amendment and all that, and then go out in a blaze of glory, hopefully with a respectable zogbot ratio.
The SELF EVIDENT TRUTH is that we are endowed by our Creator (singular and capital C) with unalienable rights. Do you understand fucking English you utterly retarded fuckwit?
You have a right to free speech because God put a tounge in your mouth, a voice box that turns vibrations into sounds that are recognizable patterns that we call speech, and a brain that allows you to put thise sounds into information that you can absorb. Free speech is a God given right. That's a SELF EVIDENT TRUTH. You need congress to pass a law to know a self evident truth, ya fuckin' retard?
And it says, "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ...
I don't give a fuck what you think free speech is or where it comes from or whether you think it's a right or not. The HIGHEST LAW IN THE LAND says that the Federal government cannot make a law that abridges a person's freedom of speech.
I'm listening to your dumb ass tell me that it's okay for the government to break the laws that were written specifically for government because reasons. Get fucked, you utter jew dick sucking faggot moron. If you want the laws to be different, change the fucking law. They don't get to break their own laws because fucking idiots like you think it's okay.
If you are a person of color, you vote Democrat. Etc.
This way, you get bundled in with ideologies you don't agree with because you are held hostage by two other data points.
For example, if you vote Democrat, you're also pro war, pro surveillance, etc.
If you are Republican, you vote pro war, pro surveillance, etc.
Both sides get "bundled" on the issues the ruling class want to move forward with while as many other divisions can be engineered, as possible, to give the illusion of majority opinion when insane corruption is legalized in plain sight.
The jewish angle... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundism The origin... binding free will of choice by tempting consent with suggestions under the pretense of relgion/religio - "to bind anew".
you vote
To vote implies ONES CHOICE selecting a CHOSEN ONES suggestion. Voting implies the artificial inversion of each elect (choice) within nature (balance). One cannot vote for representatives without ignoring to respond (re) to what nature presents aka without inverting ones presence.
A day earlier Rubio explained that he had already authorized the arrest and immediate deportation of more than 300 students around the country for their criticism of Israel,
Foreign students need to watch their Ps and Qs.
Trump voters should be considered assets of the enemy.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 5 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:21:23 ago (+5/-0)
They're not citizens. That kind of freedom of speech is reserved for citizens only. Does anyone remember the fact that when Bill Clinton was at Oxford studying on a Rhodes scholarship, he participated in protests against the Vietnam war? True story. This sort of thing embarrasses both the host country and the foreign national's country of origin, and make the person look bad mannered and uncouth.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 3 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 09:22:33 ago (+3/-0)
A family member can say the things but has much more protections when speaking up. Not the friend though.
Yes, it is also a matter of manners - given the rare privilege of being educated in the US? Better be on good behavior.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -2 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:24:42 ago (+0/-2)
No it isn't, you utterly dumb fuck.
The UK isn't the United States, and they are arresting British citizens for sharing memes.
You think that you being a citizen is gonna prevent you from being sent to a foreign prison with no due process if you protest Israel hard enough. Dumb fuckin' idiot.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 4 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:28:42 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -2 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:34:21 ago (+0/-2)
No one is letting foreigners "do whatever the fuck they want" you strawmmanning fuckin' faggot. Trump is removing 300 highly educated students because they criticized Israel, which isn't against the law. You're fucking next.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 4 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:44:18 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] IdentifyShills
[ - ] IdentifyShills 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 12:34:58 ago (+0/-0)
One of the many on here. They're very easy to spot.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 1 point 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 13:19:20 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 17:14:59 ago (+0/-0)
You're a fucking faggot. Literally put a gun in your mouth and pull the fucking trigger!
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 1 point 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 20:09:49 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 22:25:41 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] IdentifyShills
[ - ] IdentifyShills 0 points 2 monthsApr 1, 2025 07:23:38 ago (+0/-0)
I guess they gotta take a break from the boomer hating divide and conquer Whitey strategy from time to time.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 17:11:48 ago (+0/-0)
Are you suggesting the JIDF guy is the guy calling out the Trump Administration for sucking jew dick so hard that he's willing to violate human rights to protect faggy jews in colleges of the Ivy League?
[ + ] IdentifyShills
[ - ] IdentifyShills 0 points 2 monthsApr 1, 2025 07:21:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 monthsApr 1, 2025 07:41:09 ago (+0/-0)
JIDF posts this kind of stuff about other jews? Are you fucking retarded?
Oh wait, it's because I said that I like that crazy bish, right? Fuckin' moron.
[ + ] IdentifyShills
[ - ] IdentifyShills 0 points 2 monthsApr 1, 2025 13:32:39 ago (+0/-0)
Nice try.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:54:33 ago (+0/-1)
Again, it says "Congress shall make no law ..." and it doesn't mention anything about exceptions for non-citizens. Freedom of speech isn't something our government gets to decide which people get and which people don't get. It isn't a treat that only some people enjoy. It's a God given right. We don't force non-citizens to be a certain religion. We don't make special laws barring their freedom of assembly or their ability to spread news, or to redress greivances. These students didn't break the law. They are being deported, with no due process, because they said something that the jews felt was upsetting. You are letting this country be run by a bunch of un-American israeli suck-dicks and they ain't gonna give a fuck when you decide war for Israel is a bad thing and decide to say something about it, too. They will do the same to you. Did you learn anything from Bush and his War on Terror? You think the Patriot Act only applies to non-citizens? You think the government is only spying on non-citizens?
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 12:23:26 ago (+0/-0)
Now do England, or Spain, or Germany, or Romania. LOL.
"Oh, but free speech is only in the US Constitution!!! Nobody else promises free speech."
How is that a God given right then? If it was God given, it would be universal, everywhere.
England is locking up Whites for twitter posts about migrants, Spain is trying to send Isabela Peralta to prison for 3 years for a Roman salute, Romania is trying to block 2 presidential candidates for not wanting migrants and opposing the EU charter, and Germany arrested and sentenced to prison 93 year old Ursula Haverbeck for holocaust denial.
You have a weird sense of what "God given" means.
As for the US Constitution - if that is the only piece of paper in the world that actually addresses the "God given" nature of free speech, then free speech is a privilege, and another piece of paper (Executive Order) can just as easily take that privilege away, especially for foreigners.
Again I will ask for proof of US citizens caught up in any of this deportation drama.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 13:11:41 ago (+0/-0)
Countries that violate people's rights and makes America better than them for $300, dickwad.
You need a lesson in US history or sum shit.
Being God given rights doesn't mean a government can't violate them. You have a God given right to live, doesn't mean that I can't turn your head into a canoe.
You need to learn how rights work, ya dumb faggot.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 16:40:28 ago (+0/-0)
One, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" (used to be "property". LOL
This is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence does not set up any formal ruling powers of the US Government. So try again.
Second, "free speech" is not even in the Declaration of Independence, even as a grievance. Free speech appears in the Constitution, ratified 14 years after the Declaration of Independence.
Third, you are saying that governments violate rights all the time, so why is this such a big turd to you? You seem so butthurt that a few people are possibly being shipped off to some prison, with no proof at all that you can post, while there are other more pressing issues at play.
Your arguments are so far in the weeds that a retard wouldn't even get that far.
Here's a thought - any of these non-citizens that is afraid of going to whatever max prison for life, can even the odds by getting a firearm, right? Second Amendment and all that, and then go out in a blaze of glory, hopefully with a respectable zogbot ratio.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 17:05:38 ago (+0/-0)*
The SELF EVIDENT TRUTH is that we are endowed by our Creator (singular and capital C) with unalienable rights. Do you understand fucking English you utterly retarded fuckwit?
You have a right to free speech because God put a tounge in your mouth, a voice box that turns vibrations into sounds that are recognizable patterns that we call speech, and a brain that allows you to put thise sounds into information that you can absorb. Free speech is a God given right. That's a SELF EVIDENT TRUTH. You need congress to pass a law to know a self evident truth, ya fuckin' retard?
And it says, "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ...
I don't give a fuck what you think free speech is or where it comes from or whether you think it's a right or not. The HIGHEST LAW IN THE LAND says that the Federal government cannot make a law that abridges a person's freedom of speech.
I'm listening to your dumb ass tell me that it's okay for the government to break the laws that were written specifically for government because reasons. Get fucked, you utter jew dick sucking faggot moron. If you want the laws to be different, change the fucking law. They don't get to break their own laws because fucking idiots like you think it's okay.
This ain't Israel, faggot.
[ + ] MeyerLansky
[ - ] MeyerLansky 1 point 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 05:41:53 ago (+1/-0)
For example, if you are gay, you vote Democrat.
If you listen to Green Day, you vote Democrat.
If you are a person of color, you vote Democrat. Etc.
This way, you get bundled in with ideologies you don't agree with because you are held hostage by two other data points.
For example, if you vote Democrat, you're also pro war, pro surveillance, etc.
If you are Republican, you vote pro war, pro surveillance, etc.
Both sides get "bundled" on the issues the ruling class want to move forward with while as many other divisions can be engineered, as possible, to give the illusion of majority opinion when insane corruption is legalized in plain sight.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:44:00 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] ImplicationOverReason
[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 1 point 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 06:08:43 ago (+1/-0)
The jewish angle... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundism
The origin... binding free will of choice by tempting consent with suggestions under the pretense of relgion/religio - "to bind anew".
To vote implies ONES CHOICE selecting a CHOSEN ONES suggestion. Voting implies the artificial inversion of each elect (choice) within nature (balance). One cannot vote for representatives without ignoring to respond (re) to what nature presents aka without inverting ones presence.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 2 monthsMar 31, 2025 13:00:35 ago (+0/-0)
Foreign students need to watch their Ps and Qs.
Trump voters should be considered assets of the enemy.
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 2 monthsApr 3, 2025 13:18:09 ago (+0/-0)