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[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 13:52:19 ago (+2/-1)*

'Old Europeans' preceded the Celts and make up much of the genetic makeup of the British Isles as a whole.

The Germanic strain is highest in East Anglia (the stronghold of Puritanism by the way) and gets progressively weaker as you get to Bristol. People from the West Country were some of the first people in the American South.

Then on genetic maps you see a significant drop still in the Germanic imprint when you get to Ireland. But there were Vikings and such there.

The whole concept of indigenous rights is in some ways just a bullshit leftist construction though. Essentially it amounts to people that have been somewhere a long time and probably still came from somewhere else. If white guys land on the east coast they somehow are less indigenous to the area than Pueblos in Arizona. These groups all fight amongst each other. The Irish too before the Normans showed up. They weren't a unified polity.

If you're not strong enough you're going to lose. I'm not going to lose by the way.

[ - ] dassar 2 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 16:32:20 ago (+2/-0)

Was tribal group do 'Old Europeans' belong to - i imagine yo could find several different and distinct cultural groups that fit that description.

[ - ] Irelandlost 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 17:57:02 ago (+1/-0)

We don’t really know anything about the people that were here before the Gaels arrived. Some of their stuff is left though, Newgrange being their most famous still standing structure (built about 2,000 years before the Celts arrived). Linguistically the only ‘old Europeans’ left are the Basques in northern Spain/southern France; their native language is the only one that survived the Indo-European influx afaik.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 19:04:12 ago (+1/-1)

Newgrange being their most famous still standing structure

Stonehenge and other megaliths are I think basically from the same people. These people had most of their ancestry from Anatolia, although the New Grange “royals” seem to have been patrilineally descended from indigenous hunter gatherers

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 22:13:55 ago (+0/-0)*

Current "accepted" archaeology links almost all White Europeans back to "Corded Ware" Culture. The Rus, Vikings, Celts, Germans and etc. ALL stem from this Copper age culture (~3,000 - ~2,500 BC)


- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture

Keep in mind that it's all limited to the physical evidence dated by pottery, burial goods, and a few tools all found in these areas, and dated by accepted means. Their shared culture most likely goes back even further but we are currently limited by what we have found and verified.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 22:32:15 ago (+1/-0)

Current "accepted" archaeology links almost all White Europeans back to "Corded Ware" Culture.

Corded ware is a mixture of indo-european speaking steppe herders invaders and the local early european farmers (aka “old europe”). Stonehenge and new grange were built by early european farmers prior to the arrival of steppe herder ancestry. All white euros have EEF. All white euros have steppe herder.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 16:44:16 ago (+0/-1)

Dunno. We're talking like 500 years before Christ and from what I've read they were a shorter, darker element. Supposedly both the Celts and Germanics looked like something near Vikings when they arrived.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 20:04:28 ago (+0/-0)

We're talking like 500 years before Christ and from what I've read they were a shorter, darker element.

No we’re talking like 2000 years before Christ. I wish you’d stop making these sweeping statements! I think there were a number of light phenotypes in pre-indoeuropean EEF/Funnel beaker societies. I think they all had SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 alleles for light skin at relatively high frequency and a significant number of them had blue eyes.

Supposedly both the Celts and Germanics looked like something near Vikings when they arrived.

The celts and germanics would have both come from corded ware. That was not necessarily blond hair/blue eyes. Blond hair/blue eyes/light skin was already common in pre-indoeuropean scandinavian “old europe”

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 1 point 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 12:25:33 ago (+1/-0)

You say the sexiest things

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 13:22:52 ago (+1/-0)

😜

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 20:13:37 ago (+0/-0)

The "sweeping statements" referred to 500 BC when Celts arrived in Ireland. This is not in any kind of serious dispute.

You can bicker over all kinds of stuff if you want to though. A lot of this, naturally, is veiled in what amounts to conjecture. Even pre-history. What you should avoid is acting as if highly contested subject matter is settled. That's all.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 20:43:15 ago (+0/-0)

Theres tons of dispute as to when celtic speaking people arrived in the british isles! Its not even possible to distinguish early celtic from other early indo-european languages in the area like lusitanian circa 2500 ya. Also theres no reason to assume that “celts” were the first IE speakers to arrive in the british isles. But there was a large genetic turnover in Britain and Ireland starting around 2800 BC, consistent with steppe herder derived ancestry. “Old Europe” predates that.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 21:29:21 ago (+0/-0)

From the AI:

"The Celts are believed to have arrived in Ireland around 500 BC, marking the beginning of the Iron Age and the establishment of Celtic culture across the island."

See. That's easy enough.

[ - ] Rotteuxx -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 17:33:25 ago (+0/-1)

Wouldn't that be Scythian people?

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 17:36:34 ago (+0/-0)

Scythians in terms of the way they looked? Typically the trouble with the use of Scythians as a description is how broadly one defines them.

But I've never heard they invaded the British Isles. Or were there before Celts or Anglo-Saxons.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 20:32:32 ago (+0/-0)

Scythians are a very specific ethnic group that lived in Russia. The are related to Celts and Germanics throught a common “steppe herder” ancestry, i.e. early indo-european speakers from the black sea region. But none of those people are “old europe”. See my reply to dassar about the nature of “old europe”/EEF people. Terms like Scythian and Aryan are misused to refer to distantly related people.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:42:30 ago (+0/-1)

“Old Europe” is a broad category refering to the neolithic farmer populations that preceded the indo-european pastoralists that took over Europe between 6000 and 4000 years ago (originating from the Black Sea area). Languages like Basque and Etruscan may be “old europe” languages. The group formed as a mix of indigenous european hunter-gatherers and the anatolian farmers that invaded Europe about 8000 years ago (heavy on the anatolian in most places) and is usually called Early European Farmer. Otzi the Iceman is typical of this group. The group that is most related to EEF today is the Sardinians. All europeans have a sizeable amount of EEF ancestry but it is higher in southern europeans. Northern euros have more indo-european pastoralists and the baltics have alot of indigenous HG.

Pre-anglo-saxon britain was not exactly “old Europe” / EEF. They had already been invaded by an earlier wave of indo-europeans called the Celts. They would have been a mix of EEF and Celt.

[ - ] dassar 2 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 19:03:29 ago (+2/-0)

Ahhh, i see. Thanks for the description.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 17:40:13 ago (+1/-1)

Highest Germanic ancestry is found in W. Yorkshire. The rest of SE Britain (older parts of England) only have ~ 25% German . Theres shockingly low Anglo-saxon in Britain.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230/figures/9

The whole concept of indigenous rights is in some ways just a bullshit leftist construction though. Essentially it amounts to people that have been somewhere a long time and probably still came from somewhere else.

You make some good points here. “Indigenous” Americans arrived from Asia in multiple waves. The later waves disrupted/genocided the earlier waves, particularly the Na-Dene and Inuit groups. In general the South american tribes are more indigenous than the north american ones. Anzac Child is a set of ancient remains from Montana who is more closely related to S.A. Indians.

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:14:18 ago (+2/-1)

Someone tell dirtywhiteboy, he doesnt believe in genetic maps or DNA, he thinks it's a kike larp and we are all jews.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 19:28:05 ago (+3/-0)

But he’s such an intellectual. Im shocked

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 17:47:23 ago (+0/-1)

Far too much conflicting data to say how Anglo-Saxon the English are. Everything from little to full replacement basically. Yorkshire is up there too. Basically north and east or where Saxons, Jutes, Danes (Vikings), and Angles settled the most. That much is at least pretty definitive.

Predictably, Yorkshire got hit hard by Vikings. England was even briefly ruled by Vikings.

[ - ] Irelandlost 2 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:01:15 ago (+2/-0)

Depends how you define “briefly.” The Danelaw lasted about 200 years and then the Normans ruled for another 300 years, so vikings of one sort or another ruled large swathes of England or all of England for about 500 uninterrupted years.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 19:18:28 ago (+0/-1)

Well, what can really be said about the Danelaw, a partial rule over parts of the country that was actually subservient for much of the time to Anglo-Saxon kings and frogified Normans? I'm referring to Canute mostly. Basically about a quarter century. House of Denmark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:16:29 ago (+1/-1)

That 2015 study breaks out Scandis separately from Germans like angles saxons and jutes. They suggest that SE britain (England minus the west country, cornwall) are more or less one genetic group and they are mostly derived from the pre-anglo-saxon british population (probably Celtic/Old Europe admix). I don’t think anyone is saying full replacement.

I don’t think Yorkshire is “viking” (scandi). They seem like a german enclave— probably a small kingdom.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:57:27 ago (+0/-1)

You should study this more thoroughly before making these kinds of sweeping statements. This stuff is very conflicted and deals with a lot of different stuff. Just off the top of my head we have this, from Wiki, referencing a 2022 study:

"The proportion was highest in eastern England, with early medieval individuals there deriving up to 76% of their ancestry from a northern European population spanning the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_settlement_of_Britain

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 19:27:02 ago (+1/-0)

Nothing in your comment conflicts with what I said. East England has more germanic ancestry than the rest of britain, around ~25% in most places but with hot spots of germanic ancestry like W. Yorkshire, at ~47%. They found a lot of individuals with high “low german” ancestry in the east from the medieval period. That region had obviously become watered down with local ancestry since the medieval period. As the anglo-saxons conquered and settled larger and larger portions of the interior of GB over the centuries, anglo-saxon society obviously became increasingly mixed with the previously speaking celt/latin populations.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 13:56:32 ago (+1/-0)

Using their own commie playbook against them! Too bad the commies are also in control of the courts that would decide on this.

[ - ] Bottled_Tears 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 15:28:55 ago (+1/-0)

Wasn't it weird we always heard be afraid of the red scare and now it isn't even a thought or position they express anymore?

[ - ] NuckFiggers 4 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 15:58:20 ago (+4/-0)*

The people descended from those that built and created the country they are living in are the only ones that matter. They are indigenous. You can't call a Cree Indian that lived in the US 400 years ago American because America didn't exist, dumbfuck.

I don't give a fuck if you were here for ten thousand years before. What the fuck were you doing all that time? How come you're not in charge and running shit? Sit the fuck down.

[ - ] Flanders 4 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:31:12 ago (+4/-0)

Right. There were no Americans until there were White people, and there is no [USA] America which is not White, and there never will be. The jews are attempting to turn OUR country into a jewed "US" military auxillary, and it's merely jew propaganda in calling indians "American". They were diverse vagabond bands who killed and slaughtered other distinct tribes, just as the jews are attempting to do to our own people, but using stealth methods to do so.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 23:53:12 ago (+0/-0)

Don't forget that most of them were just bands of roving cannibals looking to rape, murder, and eat each other. And when they couldn't find other groups, they did it to their own. And they were barely into the stone age.

[ - ] DoughGoy 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 01:31:46 ago (+0/-0)

Also, most of the land in America before Columbus was empty. Indians only took up a tiny, tiny amount of land and did nothing with the rest except occasionally hunt and battle other tribes to take their land.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 00:30:54 ago (+0/-0)

That's what the invaders are going to say after they get the numbers and vote in sharia law and start re naming shit.. it used to be Germany Ireland brittan its now the new muslin nations of who gives a fuck what the name of the shit is its going to be shit...

But they will say sorry you didn't defend it its not yours any more go cry about it

[ - ] IdentifyShills 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 13:37:38 ago (+0/-0)

You don't vote for anything.

Might makes right.

[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 16:59:51 ago (+1/-0)

Kiwis are indigenous to nz.

Its our only home inbthe world


We are distinct.

Our Government is exterminating us.

[ - ] GreenSaint 2 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 17:49:17 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] dassar 3 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 19:14:06 ago (+3/-0)

'I'm not flightless, i just Fall with style'...

[ - ] Reunto 2 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:08:38 ago (+2/-0)

Long live the Irish!

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 2 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 18:43:54 ago (+2/-0)

Irish were celts as was most of europe before the romans.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 13:18:24 ago (+0/-0)

The celts were not the first people to arrive in Ireland. The celts would have been maybe the 3rd or 4th group to settle in Ireland in the last 10,000 years. Irish people are descended from all of these.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 03:19:24 ago (+0/-0)*

i didnt say they were the first people to arrive, you want me to start talking about corded ware, beaker, la tene culture? little regional things? means very little, because i know damn fucking well you aint talking about historical cultures that dont hold modern society hostage, but moaning about a left wing construct of a white persons imagination fed to blacks.

So heres what i learned reading far too much shit thats not from tiktok, right? a culture that is commonly referred to as 'celtic' is what the 'indigenous' (again, a false, 30 year old modern social construct with zero historical context or relevancy) aka 'before starting to spread wide enough to conflict with a different culture but not yet out of the tribal stage' people of ireland, and most of europe, are referred to.

Irish/Gallic - celtic. gaulish? celtic. Pre roman iberian peninsula? celtic. Everyone bordering the Roman Kingdom? (Italics, Sabines, the locals who werent Mycenean Greek 'colonisers' who the Romans ultimately assimilated locally.... celtic.) Not the same people. Same cultural continuum. Except unlike the austro-nigger 'cultural continuum' (not a fucking united 'first nation') they could actually live peacefully with other tribes of the same culture, while austro-niggers to this day, still attack each other in public with fucking spears because 'is dey kulcha' and cant actually understand each others gibberish, have no concept of time, are unable to co-operate or operate independantly in any kind of society.

this is a nigger argument. and to put an underline on it, everyone except sub saharan africans and austro-niggers have in their dna a genetic bottleneck that occured between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago (before what we call 'indigenous' cultures) caused by the violent deaths of around 95% of the male population only around the same time as what the niggers who call themselves 'first nations' became 'first nations'

literally in human DNA that 'first nations peoples' aka niggers, became 'first nations' by genociding everything else around them, in exactly the same manner they accuse white people of attempting on a daily basis and we are either exceptionally shit at it and they keep popping up, or white people keep stopping other white people from doing the needful, and theyre to this day, UN-genocided enough to bitch and moan, in English (not their cultural language) about being leeeeeeeeeeteralleeeeeeeeeee genocided all the time.

THE MOAR U NOE!

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 03:29:12 ago (+0/-0)

Important to note by the way - it was every culture that genocided the males.

difference being whites understand the absolute standing historical fact that every country on the planet is a result of repeated invasions and violence is what happens when you push against someone else too hard while the only thing blacks understand is 'dindu nuffin' - its what happens when your IQ is that low you genetically have absolutely zero concept of time and or cause and or effect.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 10:55:11 ago (+0/-0)

difference being whites understand the absolute standing historical fact that every country on the planet is a result of repeated invasions and violence is what happens when you push against someone else too hard

I wish all whites understood this. It was my deep dive into race and evolution that led me to understand these cycles and patterns of societies but it took me a while to develop that understanding. Its not taught in school. Modern anthropology/history curricula promote a ridiculously pozzed view of human society that is incorrect or at least deeply misled.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsApr 4, 2025 10:49:56 ago (+0/-0)

i didnt say they were the first people to arrive, you want me to start talking about corded ware, beaker, la tene culture? little regional things?

Ok, not everyone around here knows about those things.

means very little, because i know damn fucking well you aint talking about historical cultures that dont hold modern society hostage, but moaning about a left wing construct of a white persons imagination fed to blacks.

I honestly don’t know what you are talking about here.

So heres what i learned reading far too much shit thats not from tiktok, right? a culture that is commonly referred to as 'celtic' is what the 'indigenous' (again, a false, 30 year old modern social construct with zero historical context or relevancy) aka 'before starting to spread wide enough to conflict with a different culture but not yet out of the tribal stage' people of ireland, and most of europe, are referred to.

Still struggling to understand your meaning because of wording. You’re sperging out a bit, which is fine—I like this subject. But you are not being clear.

Irish/Gallic - celtic. gaulish? celtic. Pre roman iberian peninsula? celtic. Everyone bordering the Roman Kingdom? (Italics, Sabines, the locals who werent Mycenean Greek 'colonisers' who the Romans ultimately assimilated locally.... celtic.) Not the same people. Same cultural continuum. Except unlike the austro-nigger 'cultural continuum' (not a fucking united 'first nation') they could actually live peacefully with other tribes of the same culture, while austro-niggers to this day, still attack each other in public with fucking spears because 'is dey kulcha' and cant actually understand each others gibberish, have no concept of time, are unable to co-operate or operate independantly in any kind of society.

Yes of course abos and other primitive shitskins have difficulty forming large economically cooperative nations. Europeans of the neolithic/copper/bronze ages were far advanced of modern abos on that score. I think your assertion that indo-european or post-corded ware societies didn’t make war on each other. I get what you’re saying about a cultural continuum among these people. Theres a common belief around these parts that niggers/abos/etc are violent because they are stupid and can’t anticipate future consequences. That might be partly true. But intellect and temperament vary independently. Europeans and some other cold climate people evolved to be less antisocial and more cooperative. Our temperament evolved to be more “domesticated” in the same way that dogs are less likely to bit than wolves. Its more than IQ— otherwise White retards like Downs syndrome patients would be as violent as niggers and they aren’t.

this is a nigger argument. and to put an underline on it, everyone except sub saharan africans and austro-niggers have in their dna a genetic bottleneck that occured between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago (before what we call 'indigenous' cultures) caused by the violent deaths of around 95% of the male population only around the same time as what the niggers who call themselves 'first nations' became 'first nations'

What is a nigger argument? Are we having an argument? Im aware there was a population bottleneck around 70,000 years ago. Im sure there was probably a “paring back” around the time of the LGM (22kya) but I doubt it was sexually biased. There were lots of population turnovers in Europe prior to 8 kya. Im not sure which one you are talking about. I get that “indigenous” is a loaded term because no one group is the original inhabitants of any region, including abos and teepee niggers. When even there is a population turnover, it almost alway has sex bias ( i.e., local males get killed off by invading males) because this is one of the major ways that males compete reproductively. Male turnover is almost always higher than female turnover.

literally in human DNA that 'first nations peoples' aka niggers, became 'first nations' by genociding everything else around them, in exactly the same manner they accuse white people of attempting on a daily basis and we are either exceptionally shit at it and they keep popping up, or white people keep stopping other white people from doing the needful, and theyre to this day, UN-genocided enough to bitch and moan, in English (not their cultural language) about being leeeeeeeeeeteralleeeeeeeeeee genocided all the time.

Yes I agree. You only have to study a Y haplogroup map to see how waves of males invaded and replaced other males all over the globe

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker -1 points 2 monthsMar 28, 2025 22:03:28 ago (+0/-1)*

Ireland was covered in an ice sheet up until ~30,000 years ago. Odd are they are all related to the same race Proto-Germanic people that settled the area as the glaciers and ice sheets retreated.

[ - ] DoughGoy 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 01:29:00 ago (+0/-0)

Man those comments under that tweet are terrible. That guy Penisfriendproject is someone I would love to fight. $100 says he has a large nose.

[ - ] DoughGoy 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 01:29:55 ago (+0/-0)

Funny how indigenous only applies to brown people.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 09:12:01 ago (+0/-0)

Irish = bogniggers

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 0 points 2 monthsMar 29, 2025 12:22:13 ago (+0/-0)

I've said for years native citizens of European countries should use the U.N. for this exact thing. Of course they'll jew their way around it somehow ,but it'll highlight their hypocrisy.

White people in Europe you have a snowball's chance in hell, but it's literally now or never. If you wait any longer it's over for Whites in Europe.