So it's pretty obvious that women are turning to whoring in droves and it's pretty obvious to us why. The jew media tells women to go out and whore. But that wasn't the only factor. You see,if you go back in time a little ways,say around the 70s and 80s,you'll notice a different tune.
See,back in the day,they came up with the movies that told men they should be whoremongers. That sex was the ultimate goal of any relationship. And that they should seek to bed as many women as possible to prove their masculinity. It was in comedies,dramas,action movies,even "romance" movies. You name it,it had that common theme that manly men bedded lots of women. It's so ingrained into society at this point,the term "incel" is a common insult. To be a whoremongering pervert is largely seen as "normal" for men. And that's an idea feminism has exploited for a long time.
And that starts a cycle. Women being whores is going to make some men into whoremongers. Men being whoremongers is going to make some women into whores. Round and round it goes. And all this flew under the radar because it appealed to our base desires and not to a stable home and family.
Often times,while admonishing women for being whores,men will say "it's different for men". And women will demand to know why it's ok for men to be mound hounds but women must be virginal. And to that I say,it's not different. At all. It's just as wrong to be a whoremonger as it is to be a whore. Because they're both making the same mistake. Exchanging long term needs for short term pleasures. Neither is seriously looking for someone to marry and start a family with. They're just looking for a good time.
It's to the point people don't even remember the whole point of marriage is to form a family and raise kids. Without that,it's just a pact between 2 losers to cope with the fact they're genetic dead ends. It's as empty as their nest.
The "pick up artist" bullshit is just whoring for men. It's all to turn us into whores and whoremongers to keep us from being happy together. Always remember the jew seeks to control both sides of any conflict. Armed or not. And you can bet the Tates aren't going to jail for sex trafficking because they're down with the tribe.
I've seen multiple videos of dudes going out to prostitutes, asking them how much, then saying, I don't want sex, I want you to clean my car. And they would rather have a dirty, possibly STD ridden dick in their orifices than do an honest days work.
My metaphor for male promiscuity: Men shitting in the pool and then complaining that they are swimming in shit. If you don’t want a world full of whores/high body count women, stop fucking other men’s potential future wives. Theres only one female for every male. So if you want to live in a world where there are sufficient virgins for every man to marry, males must follow a group policy that doesn’t destroy the chasteness of their fellow’s future wife.
Saying its different for men while ignoring the statistical ramifications of widespread male promiscuity is just niggerish. Niggers fail to calculate the consequences of their behavior because they are stupid and irrational and muh dick.
When I point this out someone invariably says : “What about men tho? 🤪” Because youre emotional and illogical, men. If virgins are a valued resource among men (and Im told they are), form a group policy to maximize that resource. Stop complaining about the dick carousel. You are the dick carousel.
All the evidence points to body count negatively affecting women, not men. Over six partners and women have trouble pair bonding. This is not true with men.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You think every woman is wife material? Ha. Form a group policy like any group is a monolith? It sounds cool but is not based in reality.
All the evidence points to body count negatively affecting women, not men. Over six partners and women have trouble pair bonding.
Correlation is not causation. How do you know that women who have trouble pair bonding don’t tend to have >6 partners as a result of that flaw? I imagine the same is true with men in general, ie, men with antisocial tendencies will have a higher body count and never marry. There are a few candidates for that category on this forum.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You think every woman is wife material?
Congratulations, you have observed that some women have higher reproductive value than others. Do you imagine that males all have the same reproductive value to women? Of course not. Many men would be below my standard for a husband.
But what I or you find sub par may be acceptable to someone else. Low value males will naturally have to accept low value females for wives if they want to have sex. Duh.
Lets say you are an average value male. You would never marry a low value female so you figure, “why don’t I just fuck one and throw her away? “ but then you are taking the potential mate of a low value male and even further decreasing her value. You think, “ who gives a fuck?” Because its no loss to you personally. But you fail to recognize the irony of your position when you wail about “muh hypergamy”, i.e., higher status males ruining your medium value potential mate.
This is nigger think. You cannot see that your behavior, when widespread, causes problems for all males of a society. If higher status males wantonly destroy the resources of lower status males, there is no societal cohesion, no unity. Thats the basis of white society. Monogamy is the basis of white society. Low status males with no available wives will start to kill. That is how muslim societies solve their problem of female scarcity (brought on by male promiscuity).
In fact monogamy leads to lower aggression among males in animal societies too. It allows societies to succeed through group selection which is how stable white nations have achieved high trust and economic collaboration rather than killing each other in the streets like “muh dick” niggers. In any society where males are promiscuous, males will be selected for aggression, favoring an individual selection strategy.
Form a group policy like any group is a monolith? I
Hundreds of white societies in history have practiced pro-monogamy sexual taboos. The majority of them for the last several thousand years at least. You are saying it can’t be done again? Do you need me to lie to you and say Jesus wants you to do it? Fine. The point is, it works.
Available data, government and otherwise. Six is the magic number. You're uneducated on the topic. You're off to a bad start.
Not an argument against mere correlation. You haven’t explained why promiscuity isn’t the result of an inability to pair bond rather than the reverse. It seems to be a pretty plausible explanation. “Data” does not refute correlation. It establishes it. You have to describe a plausible mechanism for causation.
Oh right, you're a woman, it's the man's fault. Women have no say in spreading their legs...
Not an argument.
Right, I disagree so I must be a nigger or a jew even though you demonstrated in the first line you don't know what you're talking about.
It wasn’t demonstrated that “I don’t know what Im talking about” just because you say I don’t know what Im talking about. You haven’t offered one rational argument against any of my assertions.
Waaah youre a woman. Why you always blame stuff on men?
...isn’t an argument.
Yes you are thinking like a nigger if you cant understand the math problem of allocating the maximum number of virgins to each male in society in a population with equal numbers of men and women. The maximum is 1 and it can only be achieved by one arrangement. Anytime you fuck someone you don’t marry you are theoretically devaluing someone elses potential mate.
Don’t you believe that the higher the body count a woman has, the less likely she is to “pair bond” ? So you knowingly are destroying the ability of a woman to marry, according to your own assertion by not enforcing monogamy.
If you are saying “every woman is not wife material”(your quote) , thats the equivalent of saying that some women should either not be monogamous or they should abstain from sex entirely! Either way you are condemning some men to have no wives. Thats math.
promiscuity isn’t the result of an inability to pair bond...
Your argument is promiscuity is caused by promiscuity? Early promiscuity creates later promiscuity? Or are you saying a woman is born unable to pair bond so she becomes promiscuous?
I'm not running a charity for other men to find wives. If your future wife was a hooker and did shit with me that she won't do with you, that's your deal. I'm the main character or my sons or your sons and I care about them not the hookers (average women).
You can advocate for women all you want, but I will advocate for men to move into the best positions possible.
If we lived in a perfect world, I'd be right there with you. But, we don't, and I advocate for the boys.
Your argument is promiscuity is caused by promiscuity? Early promiscuity creates later promiscuity?
Not at all. Im arguing that a predisposal to be unable to pair bond might result in promiscuous behavior. For instance, a personality disorder where a person has low empathy or is manipulative will manifest in promiscuity and an inability to “pair bond” .
I'm not running a charity for other men to find wives. If your future wife was a hooker and did shit with me that she won't do with you, that's your deal.
And there we go with the nigger think again. You are not pro-monogamy if you think this.
You can advocate for women all you want,
Im not advocating for women at all. Im saying stop shitting in the pool. Im saying you are the cock carousel. Im saying math is real.
This is like niggers complaining about crime in their neighborhoods or getting shot by police or being mass incarcerated. The problem is male behavior. Its what you are doing, just like with the niggers. You could have a perfect world. But you choice to act selfishly and go on to say it’s not your problem . It is your problem. Its all of your problems and its my problem too.
The most promiscuous nations are the worst nations. Nations in which there is no female promiscuity and only male promiscuity (polygynous societies like muslim ones) are ALL also really bad societies. The only really good societies are monogamous ones. Males in promiscuous societies compete by killing and stealing from the competition. Males in monogamous societies compete by being good dads. Quantity vs quality schools of reproduction. That is a fucking rule of evolution. Its a rule of nature. Thats why arguing sides like “boys are better than girls” is retarded. Niggers will argue they have to steal because its good for them. They can’t understand that it makes the world a shittier place.
Helena, let me be clear. You're a woman. I believe women's prattle and opinions are just inconvenient noise. From the bottom of my heart. I still wish your white family the very best.
But, boys are objectively better and more important than girls. If men disappear, women will die rapidly. If women disappear, men will die of old age. You look up to your husband, because he's more important than you.
The world will never be what you're praying for. Your advice will not help young men long term. I see you mean well, but so what? We don't live in Narnia.
If a young man wants to learn how to catch fish, a real keeper to hang on the wall permanently, he shouldn't ask the fish. He should ask the fisherman. You're the fish in this example.
Reply with whatever you want. I'm satisfied with this exchange as is for the few readers it might attract. It's 9:30pm, time for the Mrs to bring me a ginger ale and a BJ.
Helena, let me be clear. You're a woman. I believe women's prattle and opinions are just inconvenient noise.
Thats a convenient opinion to have when you are loosing a debate.
But, boys are objectively better and more important than girls. If men disappear, women will die rapidly. If women disappear, men will die of old age. You look up to your husband, because he's more important than you.
Neither sex is more important than the other. Women could survive for awhile without men. We would be virtually free of violence, a major disincentive for having males around. We would certainly lose productivity but also a lot of destructive behaviors of males which women do not suffer from. We’d live more primitively.
I think men would not live to old age in a male only world, for obvious reasons. I think it would be very bloody. Unless you all went gay. But in either case the human race ends. The purpose of male productivity is to support what women do. Its arbitrary to suggest that an all male extinction is preferable to an all female extinction. Its just extinction
You look up to your husband, because he's more important than you.
I don’t. Im not married but if I was, it wouldn’t be to a father figure. Im not a child with tits. I don’t find men to be more important than me. As you can imagine, they are usually not as smart as me.
The world will never be what you're praying for. Your advice will not help young men long term. I see you mean well, but so what? We don't live in Narnia.
A monogamous society is not “narnia”. We had it 60 years ago. My advice is exactly what will help young men long term. Exactly. And I have explained here and in many other threads why monogamy is the best solution with the lowest male exploitation and the lowest male mortality. I can explain why in an evolutionary and economic context.
Meanwhile your contention is “ its ok to despoil low value females because boys are awesome!” Its not a solution. But thank you for helping me to demonstrate that males are not particularly logical
You're the fish in this example.
Men are “fish” too for women. Men are a resource for women. But its certainly worthwhile speaking to men and understanding their priorities and how and why they differ from women’s priorities, rather than dehumanizing them. By dehumanizing women (as you seem to be desperate to do) you are not getting closer to solving the problem. Feminists do the same thing.
Reply with whatever you want. I'm satisfied with this exchange as is for the few readers it might attract. It's 9:30pm, time for the Mrs to bring me a ginger ale and a BJ.
TMI pal. I don’t need to know that. Its crass. I guess you know by now Im super jealous of the missus. Her life as a fish must be a dream.
No,men are effected too. Firstly because men who sleep around aren't going to commit anymore than women do. Why should they when they can just get new women? They're just not going to marry because,unlike women,they stand to lose a lot if the marriage falls through. That's the only real difference.
Cool claim, but this is just your feels. Show me evidence of this being in the same ballpark psychologically. Sex is an exercise for men but requires an emotional attachment for women. Until women lose their ability to pair bond, that is.
Why should they when they can just get new women?
Look up the definition of "wife material". If men choose to marry, it should not be because she touched your peepee. They should choose her because she's valuable in more ways than need listed here. More partners objectively conditions a man not to fall for a low value woman.
They're just not going to marry because,unlike women,they stand to lose a lot if the marriage falls through
Correct, remember that "wife material" stuff I brought up? Men don't have a duty to marry just like women don't have a duty to give birth. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and men the gatekeepers of committed relationships. She should prove to you that she is the one to commit to after she vets you as worth submitting to.
I hope you feel better speaking your peace, but like I said originally, all the evidence points to body count negatively affecting women, not men. I'd be happy to break down anything you're unclear or unfamiliar with.
You're basically saying men need to fuck their way through a pile of whores in order to be proper men. That's what the jew tells you. You learn nothing by doing this except how to fuck whores. Which means you're either a moron or a jew.
You can frame it like a piece of shit if you want, I guess? It depends on what you're considering a pile? It could be five or 10 or 20, whatever it takes for you to learn how women operate so you can get the best deal when you settle down.
If being wholesome is more important than losing half your shit and getting fucking raped by the court system and not seeing your kids, by all means walk into it blind like you're advocating for.
My advice prevents that for young men. Your advice continues the 70 to 80% divorce rate by pretending the world isn't the way it is.
"Your way" is the jews telling men to go out and fuck whores rather than look for a woman who's compatible and capable. Your way pretty much guarantees the spread of STDs,unwanted pregnancies,and shotgun weddings. Your way has men turning more women into whores and wondering why it's so hard to find a virgin bride.
My way has men thinking with the big head and actually getting to know a woman before they take off their clothes. My way takes away the whore's greatest weapon,sex,and forces her to stand on her own merits. My way stops men from giving money to women who just want to use them. My way stops the bullshit and makes you think things through.
Everybody who disagrees with me is a jew, typical. It just hurts your feelings.
You're just like Helena, you don't live in the real world. I can't even talk to you without you straw manning what I'm saying, like stick your raw dick into whores, get STDs, and have shotgun weddings. That's what niggers do and not at all what I'm advocating for. You are a retard even if you mean well. Don't ever go on anything to debate anyone.
Men shouldn't be fucking whores. They should only be fucking women that they think could possibly maybe someday be worth a commitment or else why spend time on them? Quit relating your retarded bullshit to what I'm saying.
You have it backwards. My way removes sex as a weapon. My way has men thinking with their big head because they learn how women move. Your way is naive by definition, because you couldn't know how women behave and think. My way forces you to weigh a woman by her value and merits. My way stops men from being simps like you and giving money to women who touch their pee pee. My way allows you to find a woman of value worth commitment.
You can't at all demonstrate to me how an ignorant virgin male would not get eaten alive in the dating pool. You are delusional, again.
How long have you been married? How long have you been divorced? Do you get to see your kids? How long have your sons been married? Do you have any friends? Which ones are still married and which ones aren't? I'm guessing the ones who married whores because they didn't know any better and the ones who married the first woman who touched their pee pee just like my friends. Right?
So you're just reading from the jew copy now while trying to copy me because you got nothing of your own. Yup,definitely jew. Go sell your garbage to someone who still believes your lies. All while ignoring the fact women often get their body counts from men they "kinda sorta maybe" thought they could get a commitment from. And after 6 or so times,they just kind of give up and become whores. You keep forgetting that part even though you're the one bringing it up. You're a poor fraud of a person,jew.
Males are designed to have multiple partners. Its how our species is supposed to evole through natural selection.
The worse men get no mates. The best men all the mates.
The thing is men reading this post, mislead by thus feminist hags post. A male have sex with ten different females can produce 10 pregnancies. A female taking 10 male sex partners gets pregnant once and to an unknown father.
Ergo women can be whores while men can only be studs.
Facts.
The issue that broke our white species is female sexual liberation coupled with the pill.
In the future, the only survivors will be groups that once again own female bodies.
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:38:35 ago (+1/-0)
Men are the protectors. When the shit hits the fan,someone has to put their ass on the line to protect the family. And that's men. So if you lose a lot of men,you can still breed a new generation with only a few or even one. The problem is this was supposed to be the back up plan,not the main one.
Because if only one guy is breeding,that means all the kids will be related and lead to inbreeding. A varied stock is always preferable. Within certain limits,of course.
So no,a handful of assholes bogarting all the babes isn't the way things should be and ultimately leads to a lot of trouble for everyone.
There's some truth to this but in healthy societies it's only a handful of men at the top who have multiple women, while a majority of men have one wife and a minority of losers get nothing.
The problem isn't just the pill, it's also an economic system that fucked over the vast majority of hard working men. Men are still responsible for doing all the difficult, dangerous, and dirty jobs that are needed to put food on people's tables and roofs over people's heads, but the men working those jobs get far less respect and pay than they used to, while the financial class at the top is hoarding more wealth stolen through inflationary banking than ever. That creates a distorted system where an elite that has earned nothing through real work can afford to be playboys and sex traffic young women while normal men who work real jobs can't afford to take care of one wife without her working too.
Until we fix the economic system, the men who feed and shelter everyone will continue to be broke, single, and unhappy, jerking it to porn or trying to find a hookup because they can't afford to provide for a woman well enough for her to stick around for more regular sex. Meanwhile women won't feel the economic need to pair with a man for survival because the economic overlords will pay them to harass male workers from an HR position or teach refugee kids how to keep the machines running without thinking too much, separating them from their very real dependence on men. And the elite want it that way, because women who are pretending they're capable of being independent (while failing to recognize that their independence is dependent on the system that's enslaving us) are easier to push into hookup culture and sex work and being trafficked.
But this would only work in an all white society. Niggers and spics will never follow those rules. If you follow rules in a game where others cheat you will always lose.
Presumably whites were once like niggers but cold climate environments strongly selected for monogamy. The children of polygamous parents did not survive well in such a place. So mother nature enforced the rule for long enough that our ancestors changed.
Do we enforce such a rule upon blacks and browns, artificially? Do we leave them alone to sort this shit out themselves in the tropics? Or do we kill them all off when we accept that they will never be able to get along with each other or us?
I honestly think we as whites are being influenced by the cultures of blacks and browns as much as they are being influenced by us. Monkey see , monkey do.
That influence is forced on us by jews. The only way to resist is to have a community that can defend itself from ouside attacks. This is currently impossible because jews destroy any white collaboration they find.
What we need is to find a way to defend against jewish treachery.
[ - ] nibnab 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 14:05:07 ago (+1/-0)
"males must follow a group policy
Men did follow a group policy, and then feminism came and women lined up to betray mankind. The Hebrews had a good policy, stone adulterers to death. JC sort of fucked that one up for the goyim.
A certain number of men will die in war and jobs women can't or won't do. A certain number of women will become whores. JC said it's better to pay a whore the price of loaf of bread then to commit adultery.
Close but no. The point is men and women are equally responsible for the current situation by falling for jewish propaganda. It's just that while it's well known,at least on this site,how they turned women into whores,it's less examined how they turned men into whoremongers.
Just as feminist jews told women to be "sexually liberated",porn jews told men to go get all the pussy they can. It's all appealing to the baser instincts and that's how they got us. Both genders. And now we're all pissed at each other and no one's happy.
I think nothing illustrates this better than Ron Jeremy. In my HS days I recall many of the boys in my younger days lauding this disgusting vile Jew as if he was something to aspire to. Fat, lazy, on drugs and with tons of PUSSY all the time. What a dream come true right? If you were the kind of girl with no self esteem and too much TV you would want these douchebags to think you're cool right? The best way to do that was to bang so the guy could brag to his friends. Porn feeds on the male need to impress his friends over God or his parents or whatever other respectable person deserves to be impressed. And for a lot of young women, giving the man that is the quickest way to get their attention, and before you are mature attention can feel like a little micro dose of love, especially potent if mommy and daddy ignore you.
Now, the issue is, women are more affected by whoring i.e unable to pair bond. There's no such thing as a male virgin. Women are disgusted by virgins and use inkwell as some sort of insult. Women get loaded up on male DNA from all the cum they take, this doesn't happen to men.
Probably more too. Still, men shouldn't whore. It rots the soul, just like porn.
Now, the issue is, women are more affected by whoring i.e unable to pair bond.
Well apparently you are unable to pair bond with women with high body counts. So I guess you are just as affected as women.
There's no such thing as a male virgin.
Yes there is. It was a white value even in pre-christian times for men to be celibate before marriage.
Women are disgusted by virgins and use inkwell as some sort of insult.
No we aren’t. Not generally. Men insult women for not “putting out” or being a “cold fish” . Should I extrapolate those comments to derive the agenda of men as a whole?
Women get loaded up on male DNA from all the cum they take, this doesn't happen to men.
More MGTOW retardation. The source of microchimerism in females has never been established. It can be from male siblings, male pregnancies, etc. How do you know it doesn’t happen to men? Its never been studied.
Christianity preaches abstinance for both men and women. That is why jews hate it so much, it is the biggest obstacle to their destruction of the white race.
Abraham cheated on his wife and Jacob married two of his cousins. You can't even get through the first book of the bible without the "good guys"/chosen tribe defying monogamy. Cultural christianity may promote monogamy and celibacy, but the bible supports man whoring and polygamy.
Pre-christian Europe was more monogamous than the middle east too. But we've had this discussion before, and total monogamy has a pacifying effect that our race can't afford right now. What we need is a way to reward men who actually take action against the jews with greater access to women, while those who just post about it online get their one wife and those who don't stand up to jews can be fags or incels or whatever.
Pre-christian Europe was more monogamous than the middle east too.
Yeah I agree. Cool weather + high humidity = farmer monogamists. We had the right climate to promote monogamy
total monogamy has a pacifying effect that our race can't afford right now. What we need is a way to reward men who actually take action against the jews with greater access to women,
Don’t agree. We are going to think our way out of this problem, not “nigger” our way out of it. Polygamy will select for men more like middle-easterners. Whats wrong with middle-easterners? Most of the faggots around here think its because they have a drop of nigger blood in them or somethng. Theres no evidence of that. Middle easterners have basically the same ancestry as us. The problem is they have been more polygamous.
Polygamy (polygyny) does not increase population of a race. There are a limited number of uteruses in any given population and there is a hard limit to the number of babies they can put out. Polygyny only creates reproductive disparity among the men of the population which favors more nigger like strategies over “good dad” strategies. The disenfranchised males of the society will often resort to stealing women from other nations. Polygyny is the primary driver of race mixing in human evolution.
Who are your dispossessed males going to fuck/marry when their potential wives are being hoarded by higher status males? How are you going to make up for this discrepancy when theres no females for up to 50% of the white male population. Are you going to kill off these exess males through warfare or slavery. Or allow them to take brown wives? These are the typical solutions to the problem historically.
You faggots don’t think about the math of polygyny. Ive said it over and over. Can one of you just discuss how you propose to solve this problem of insufficient females for the white male population? Can you acknowlege massive disparity that’s created when you implement polygyny? None of you have shown that you have any understanding about how changing one thing like monogamy/polygamy will totally alter who we are as a race, behaviorally. How do you think we got to be white people? By doing shit like mudslimes do them? You will squander our Whiteness with your arrogance.
Monogamy isn’t about being weak. Its about males being lock-step in synch with their fellow men rather than constantly fighting over pussy, which is guaranteed in polygyny.
Who are your dispossessed males going to fuck/marry when their potential wives are being hoarded by higher status males?
If they're not helping resist the jews, no one, because they don't deserve a wife if they won't fight for their people.
Polygamy was always a way to reward men who defended their people by giving them the women their fallen comrades would have gotten so defending your people would look like a better option than staying home like a coward. We need that strategy again until our people are free.
Pretty convenient for you! You decide which white males are unworthy to reproduce and then you’ll take their females for yourself. Im sure you’ll be totally objective in your decisions!
Polygamy was always a way to reward men who defended their people by giving them the women their fallen comrades ....
Youve got it backwards. What you mean is that polygamy (polygyny) is an incentive that fuels brother wars. Are extra wives a reward for selflessly defending the people? Or do aggressive males gain a reproductive advantage by picking stupid fights which result in high male mortality and extra females for the remaining males? Didn’t this occur to you?
Not only is EVERY polygynous society hyperaggressive and warlike but you see the same phenomenon in other “polygynous” animals as well. This is why anthropologists of the 70s and 80s studied primate societies. Gorillas have mating patterns similar to polygynous societies. Chimpanzees have a pattern closer to matrilineal polygamous societies. Male gorillas aren’t doing female gorillas a favor by fighting with other male gorillas. Homocide is a logical strategy for polygynists competing to hoard as many females as possible. The fact that males can hoard multiple females is the cause of all wars. That is why women don’t go to war. By enforcing monogamy, the need to war goes away and males are no longer strongly selected for nigger/gorilla traits.
We are never going to nigger our way out of our problems. Human polygyny is not supportable without slavery. That has always been true since the neolithic. Polygamous males support their harems through slavery. We already have aggressive polygynous white men. They are called billionaires and they are allied with the jews. You are their slave. They own you. Thats what polygynists are like. Theyre not principled like you think and they don’t give a shit about the white race, only themselves.
You keep pushing this false dichotomy where there's either 0 polygamy and everyone is monogamous or everyone is trying to be as polygamous as possible and either gets multiple wives or none. The reality is every society in history has had at least some polygamy, whether officially recognized or not.
You've also made the argument in the past that monogamous societies are extremely peaceful - almost as if their men have 0 incentive to go fight and risk their lives if there's no reward of more offspring in exchange for the risk - and you're still arguing that polygamy fuels violence.
Well, guess what? Violence has been a part of life for literally the entire history of life since your earliest ancestors were nothing but protein chains ripping each other apart for carbon molecules to make more of themselves with. The ability to be violent when needed is necessary to human survival. A society that no one is motivated to fight for is a society that will die out and be replaced by some other society that gives people a reason to fight for it.
As soon as you drop the false dichotomy, your own arguments about monogamy vs polygamy are all the reason you need to want a society that is exactly as polygamous as it needs to be to motivate men to fight for its survival against other societies, but no more polygamous so that it isn't burdened by excess violence.
So yeah, we don't want a society where everyone gets to be polygamous - we want a society where a small percent of men get a bonus wife because they contributed to the survival of their society, a majority of men still get one wife, and the most useless men don't get a wife. The optimal level of polygamy is less than the muslims have but not none, and regulated enough that you have to earn the extra wife and can't just kill another member of your society and take his wife.
You keep pushing this false dichotomy where there's either 0 polygamy and everyone is monogamous or everyone is trying to be as polygamous as possible and either gets multiple wives or none. The reality is every society in history has had at least some polygamy, whether officially recognized or not.
Yes I agree. Im simplifying these societies. In “polygynous” societies the majority of the unions are still probably monogamous and polygynous women might only be 10 to 30% of all married women. Thats high enough for bad things to happen. Even the most monogamous societies probably have 2 to 5% polygamy even if its clandestine. But the most monogamous people in history are the germanics. Theyve been documented as largely monogamous since pre-christian times.
You've also made the argument in the past that monogamous societies are extremely peaceful - almost as if their men have 0 incentive to go fight and risk their lives if there's no reward of more offspring in exchange for the risk - and you're still arguing that polygamy fuels violence.
Monogamous societies are not extremely peaceful. They are just more peaceful than all other non-monogamous societies. Men have zero incentive to fight and risk their lives if there's no reward of more offspring in exchange for that risk. Correct. Males can take one of two strategies: being a good dad (monogamy) or being a mass fertilizer (polygamy). As you say this is really not a dichotomy but a line of continuum. The most monogamous will be selected for “good dad” qualities and that going to be mostly stuff related to economic productivity.
Well, guess what? Violence has been a part of life for literally the entire history of life since your earliest ancestors were nothing but protein chains ripping each other apart for carbon molecules to make more of themselves with. The ability to be violent when needed is necessary to human survival. A society that no one is motivated to fight for is a society that will die out and be replaced by some other society that gives people a reason to fight for it.
Whites have become less and less violent though over thousands of years. Was that a mistake? The alternative is niggers. They are truly closer to nature, closer to the behavior of our wild ancestors. Even the genetic trait that causes our white skin makes us less violent. You don’t need to be impulsively violent when brains to outsmart the violent people around you.
but no more polygamous so that it isn't burdened by excess violence.
Any polygamy will lead to a comensurate increase in excess violence. Its dysgenic. And disparity of reproduction among males doesn’t just lead to violence, it leads to increased economic disparity among males. Polygyny is financed by slavery and other similar exploitive strategies. The most exploitive males (of other whites!) will outreproduce everyone. Im telling you, this is why the middle east is shit. It became arid several thousand years ago and pastoralists took over. Pastoralists are all polygynists and they are barbaric corrupt fuckers. They love slavery. That didn’t happen to us because europe is moist.
it leads to increased economic disparity among males.
Some amount of economic disparity among males is desirable. Evolution requires both selection and diversity, and men bear the brunt of selection (much more likely to get removed from the gene pool) while women maintain diversity (much larger percentage of women have kids but fewer maximum kids). Ability to commit violence is certainly not the only thing we should be competing over, but we should be competing for the good of our genes. It's just a question of how much, and finding the right balance, some but not so much that we slide into degeneracy like the muslims did.
If we all refused to settle for anything but virgins, 90% of men would die alone and women would fuck more niggers. We have to solve the systemic problems that make whoring more affordable than wifing first.
The problem is that, if as a man you dont whore around to build experience while young then you are screwed. Women have been conditioned to ignore ‘incel losers’ with no experience so that young kid who would be a loving devoted husband is passed over for the retarded nigger who has a basketball and is sexually aggressive. Women naturally crave aggressive alpha behavior so the brainwashing only reinforces that instinct. The game is rigged from the get-go.
Exactly,they're conditioned to do that. And guess who did that. It's all part of turning women into whores. But if you pay attention,you'll find that many of those whores also complain about lack of emotional attachment from men. Guess which men they're dating. It's not the guy who's genuinely trying to get to know them.
Once women were taught to avoid the wolves who just wanted to pump and dump. Now they're told to steer into them. Guess why.
No the truth is, you are too insecure if you think you are not desireable because you don’t have experience. Women sleep around for the same reason. You think its different. Its not different. “Oh I have to be a whore or Ms. Right won’t love me” —gay. You lack confidence.
Youre looking for a wife right? Not trying to form a circus act? “What if I can’t perform muh sexual tricks?” Seriously? This is such a jewish excuse.
Im married and have children. Just speaking from experience. Trying to be a nice guy doesnt work these days when all the dudes are thirsty retards and the girls are hos.
Im married and have children. Just speaking from experience. Trying to be a nice guy doesnt work these days when all the dudes are thirsty retards and the girls are hos.
Jews have programmed YOU. Reject your programming and act like a strong white man!
she won’t like me if I don’t know 5 different forms of cunnilingus
This is retarded thinking. You’re priorities are all fucked up guys. A guy who knows himself and doesn’t give a shit about how he’ll be judged on the jew controlled culture continuum is sexy
The Great Depression brought a rapid rise in the crime rate as many unemployed workers resorted to petty theft to put food on the table. Suicide rates rose, as did reported cases of malnutrition. Prostitution was on the rise as desperate women sought ways to pay the bills.
Also the second paternity testing becomes mandatory and child support becomes abolished, women will better select for mates rather than whore about and rely on the state.
Good post. I regret the way I defiled myself in my 20’s and early 30’s sleeping with all manner of vile monsters when only 3 or 4 of them were worth my intimacy and maybe vice versa.
There is a giant fucking difference you stupid fuck...
Men for all time until modern times made living easy you better fuck and spread the millions and millions of supermarket you produce before 1 of a million things could kill you... we make millions of fucking sperm if we only made a thousand and they only worked 5 days out of the month you would have a better argument
Women on the other hand are born with all their eggs and it ain't easy to get pregnant unless your a nigger or other assorted darkie it seems... I digress also getting pregnant made you easier to kill for most of humanity or the pregnancy might kill you... so guess what they should be very carefull and not fuck some retard with no social status or physical abilities or they will end up dead or for most of humanity a fucking labled single mom whore who can't keep a man...
So there is all that every one who knows anything knows the difference and for most of humanity a man with wealth and power could have many offspring and support them... Elon musk using jew fake money is keeping the tradition alive.
With all of that I agree with you if I could go back I'd wait fins the ideal woman and have as many strong white kids as I could and be totally happy.
I agree with you but nature and logic don't Christian value helped push what you think is ideal and I think is ideal but Christianity is not good for white men becauee it is based off sand nigger religions now why whites abandoned philosophy or their early gods is weird why didn't they come up with something like Christianity instead we had weird what jews call pagem religions that just couldn't stand up against the jew zionist lies...
Solutions? Live Christian values but don't worship a dirty sand nigger jew religion
There are a number of factors but feminism is mostly to blame. Women are now expected to not only fully support themselves, but excel at a career and become wealthy. In my experience, an incredibly small number of women are able to support themselves without any help. Not to mention that women want more money because they are terrible at managing it and spend constantly so a lot of women, even ones that have good jobs and work constantly, are broke.
After more than a generation of being attacked, nagged and constantly bitched at men have finally learned and are no longer stepping forward to help women for free. If they marry women are still expected to pay her way or at least do things around the home (which is impossible for many women).
But, since she's a woman, there's always ways out. They can whore themselves, either virtually with a whore site like Onlyfans or they can do it literally. Even if they call it something retarded like sugarbabying. This also extends to women that call themselves poly. That's just another way to have a man pay for shit. AKA, a whore.
The sad thing is, there's no way out for women. Real men that would encourage their feminity and want them to be moms don't marry whores and women can't do most jobs. So it's either end up broke and homeless, marry some simp (whore), prostitute virtually (whore), go out on the street and try to find a job (whore) or expect the government (all of us) to pay for her (whore)
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:25:07 ago (+1/-0)
Its not new. We live in puritan and whorish cycles in humanity. The issue is the jew seeks to shorten puritan cycles and completely short it with extreme puritanism and eugenics to justify even deeper and longer whorish cycles.
Do you know how many men are in the government? By inviting the government into your relationship is one of the gayest things you could ever do. And when the marriage inevitably ends, the government decides that the woman gets all your material possessions and you owe her 50% of your income for at least a year.
Modern marriage is gay. Men who marry are gay. Women ARE whores, it's literally in their DNA to be whores.
You're not entirely wrong, just naive. Maybe tunnel vision?
Men are not whoremongers, they are whore makers. It is completely different between men and women. A key that opens many locks is a master key but a lock that opens for many keys is a shitty lock.
This isn't 1950. The only way for men to learn how women move and not be a total simp and marry the wrong woman is to go through a few of them. More than a few of them.
Not all women are wife material. Blame it on whatever you want, but it doesn't make it less true.
But by all means, encourage your sons to be virgins when they get married so that they can get raped out of half their shit when they get older because they don't understand women at all. Or you know, encourage them to learn how women think and behave and only then find a virgin chick to marry. I know what I did and it's 14 years next month; we're happy as can be.
I'm in no way encouraging people to behave like the Tate brothers.
Normal men can't even get a woman in the first place.
But by all means, encourage your sons to be virgins when they get married so that they can get raped out of half their shit when they get older because they don't understand women at all.
Far more important than experience with women is the willingness to kill the slut if she tries to leave.
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 17 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 16:25:05 ago (+17/-0)
I've seen multiple videos of dudes going out to prostitutes, asking them how much, then saying, I don't want sex, I want you to clean my car. And they would rather have a dirty, possibly STD ridden dick in their orifices than do an honest days work.
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:25:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 9 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:19:06 ago (+15/-6)
My metaphor for male promiscuity: Men shitting in the pool and then complaining that they are swimming in shit. If you don’t want a world full of whores/high body count women, stop fucking other men’s potential future wives. Theres only one female for every male. So if you want to live in a world where there are sufficient virgins for every man to marry, males must follow a group policy that doesn’t destroy the chasteness of their fellow’s future wife.
Saying its different for men while ignoring the statistical ramifications of widespread male promiscuity is just niggerish. Niggers fail to calculate the consequences of their behavior because they are stupid and irrational and muh dick.
When I point this out someone invariably says : “What about men tho? 🤪” Because youre emotional and illogical, men. If virgins are a valued resource among men (and Im told they are), form a group policy to maximize that resource. Stop complaining about the dick carousel. You are the dick carousel.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 6 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:21:18 ago (+7/-1)
[ + ] stillmostlyfriendly
[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 6 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:33:19 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 6 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:02:22 ago (+6/-0)
What in the fuck are you talking about? You think every woman is wife material? Ha. Form a group policy like any group is a monolith? It sounds cool but is not based in reality.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 4 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:35:21 ago (+6/-2)
Correlation is not causation. How do you know that women who have trouble pair bonding don’t tend to have >6 partners as a result of that flaw? I imagine the same is true with men in general, ie, men with antisocial tendencies will have a higher body count and never marry. There are a few candidates for that category on this forum.
Congratulations, you have observed that some women have higher reproductive value than others. Do you imagine that males all have the same reproductive value to women? Of course not. Many men would be below my standard for a husband.
But what I or you find sub par may be acceptable to someone else. Low value males will naturally have to accept low value females for wives if they want to have sex. Duh.
Lets say you are an average value male. You would never marry a low value female so you figure, “why don’t I just fuck one and throw her away? “ but then you are taking the potential mate of a low value male and even further decreasing her value. You think, “ who gives a fuck?” Because its no loss to you personally. But you fail to recognize the irony of your position when you wail about “muh hypergamy”, i.e., higher status males ruining your medium value potential mate.
This is nigger think. You cannot see that your behavior, when widespread, causes problems for all males of a society. If higher status males wantonly destroy the resources of lower status males, there is no societal cohesion, no unity. Thats the basis of white society. Monogamy is the basis of white society. Low status males with no available wives will start to kill. That is how muslim societies solve their problem of female scarcity (brought on by male promiscuity).
In fact monogamy leads to lower aggression among males in animal societies too. It allows societies to succeed through group selection which is how stable white nations have achieved high trust and economic collaboration rather than killing each other in the streets like “muh dick” niggers. In any society where males are promiscuous, males will be selected for aggression, favoring an individual selection strategy.
Hundreds of white societies in history have practiced pro-monogamy sexual taboos. The majority of them for the last several thousand years at least. You are saying it can’t be done again? Do you need me to lie to you and say Jesus wants you to do it? Fine. The point is, it works.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 4 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 20:10:56 ago (+4/-0)
Available data, government and otherwise. Six is the magic number. You're uneducated on the topic. You're off to a bad start.
No.
Oh right, you're a woman, it's the man's fault. Women have no say in spreading their legs...
Right, I disagree so I must be a nigger or a jew even though you demonstrated in the first line you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm pro monogamy so the rest of your shit is just shit.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 20:46:10 ago (+3/-2)
Not an argument against mere correlation. You haven’t explained why promiscuity isn’t the result of an inability to pair bond rather than the reverse. It seems to be a pretty plausible explanation. “Data” does not refute correlation. It establishes it. You have to describe a plausible mechanism for causation.
Not an argument.
It wasn’t demonstrated that “I don’t know what Im talking about” just because you say I don’t know what Im talking about. You haven’t offered one rational argument against any of my assertions.
...isn’t an argument.
Yes you are thinking like a nigger if you cant understand the math problem of allocating the maximum number of virgins to each male in society in a population with equal numbers of men and women. The maximum is 1 and it can only be achieved by one arrangement. Anytime you fuck someone you don’t marry you are theoretically devaluing someone elses potential mate.
Don’t you believe that the higher the body count a woman has, the less likely she is to “pair bond” ? So you knowingly are destroying the ability of a woman to marry, according to your own assertion by not enforcing monogamy.
If you are saying “every woman is not wife material”(your quote) , thats the equivalent of saying that some women should either not be monogamous or they should abstain from sex entirely! Either way you are condemning some men to have no wives. Thats math.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 21:03:59 ago (+3/-0)
Your argument is promiscuity is caused by promiscuity? Early promiscuity creates later promiscuity? Or are you saying a woman is born unable to pair bond so she becomes promiscuous?
I'm not running a charity for other men to find wives. If your future wife was a hooker and did shit with me that she won't do with you, that's your deal. I'm the main character or my sons or your sons and I care about them not the hookers (average women).
You can advocate for women all you want, but I will advocate for men to move into the best positions possible.
If we lived in a perfect world, I'd be right there with you. But, we don't, and I advocate for the boys.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 21:59:50 ago (+2/-2)
Not at all. Im arguing that a predisposal to be unable to pair bond might result in promiscuous behavior. For instance, a personality disorder where a person has low empathy or is manipulative will manifest in promiscuity and an inability to “pair bond” .
And there we go with the nigger think again. You are not pro-monogamy if you think this.
Im not advocating for women at all. Im saying stop shitting in the pool. Im saying you are the cock carousel. Im saying math is real.
This is like niggers complaining about crime in their neighborhoods or getting shot by police or being mass incarcerated. The problem is male behavior. Its what you are doing, just like with the niggers. You could have a perfect world. But you choice to act selfishly and go on to say it’s not your problem . It is your problem. Its all of your problems and its my problem too.
The most promiscuous nations are the worst nations. Nations in which there is no female promiscuity and only male promiscuity (polygynous societies like muslim ones) are ALL also really bad societies. The only really good societies are monogamous ones. Males in promiscuous societies compete by killing and stealing from the competition. Males in monogamous societies compete by being good dads. Quantity vs quality schools of reproduction. That is a fucking rule of evolution. Its a rule of nature. Thats why arguing sides like “boys are better than girls” is retarded. Niggers will argue they have to steal because its good for them. They can’t understand that it makes the world a shittier place.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 22:39:44 ago (+3/-0)
But, boys are objectively better and more important than girls. If men disappear, women will die rapidly. If women disappear, men will die of old age. You look up to your husband, because he's more important than you.
The world will never be what you're praying for. Your advice will not help young men long term. I see you mean well, but so what? We don't live in Narnia.
If a young man wants to learn how to catch fish, a real keeper to hang on the wall permanently, he shouldn't ask the fish. He should ask the fisherman. You're the fish in this example.
Reply with whatever you want. I'm satisfied with this exchange as is for the few readers it might attract. It's 9:30pm, time for the Mrs to bring me a ginger ale and a BJ.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 23:28:36 ago (+1/-2)
Thats a convenient opinion to have when you are loosing a debate.
Neither sex is more important than the other. Women could survive for awhile without men. We would be virtually free of violence, a major disincentive for having males around. We would certainly lose productivity but also a lot of destructive behaviors of males which women do not suffer from. We’d live more primitively.
I think men would not live to old age in a male only world, for obvious reasons. I think it would be very bloody. Unless you all went gay. But in either case the human race ends. The purpose of male productivity is to support what women do. Its arbitrary to suggest that an all male extinction is preferable to an all female extinction. Its just extinction
I don’t. Im not married but if I was, it wouldn’t be to a father figure. Im not a child with tits. I don’t find men to be more important than me. As you can imagine, they are usually not as smart as me.
A monogamous society is not “narnia”. We had it 60 years ago. My advice is exactly what will help young men long term. Exactly. And I have explained here and in many other threads why monogamy is the best solution with the lowest male exploitation and the lowest male mortality. I can explain why in an evolutionary and economic context.
Meanwhile your contention is “ its ok to despoil low value females because boys are awesome!” Its not a solution. But thank you for helping me to demonstrate that males are not particularly logical
Men are “fish” too for women. Men are a resource for women. But its certainly worthwhile speaking to men and understanding their priorities and how and why they differ from women’s priorities, rather than dehumanizing them. By dehumanizing women (as you seem to be desperate to do) you are not getting closer to solving the problem. Feminists do the same thing.
TMI pal. I don’t need to know that. Its crass. I guess you know by now Im super jealous of the missus. Her life as a fish must be a dream.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 23:43:59 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] jfroybees
[ - ] jfroybees 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 02:47:23 ago (+1/-0)
"Im not advocating for women at all. Im saying stop shitting in the pool. Im saying you are the cock carousel. Im saying math is real."
Stop shitting in the pool.
You ARE the cock carousel.
My sides.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 10:57:51 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:33:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 22:44:35 ago (+0/-0)
Cool claim, but this is just your feels. Show me evidence of this being in the same ballpark psychologically. Sex is an exercise for men but requires an emotional attachment for women. Until women lose their ability to pair bond, that is.
Look up the definition of "wife material". If men choose to marry, it should not be because she touched your peepee. They should choose her because she's valuable in more ways than need listed here. More partners objectively conditions a man not to fall for a low value woman.
Correct, remember that "wife material" stuff I brought up? Men don't have a duty to marry just like women don't have a duty to give birth. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and men the gatekeepers of committed relationships. She should prove to you that she is the one to commit to after she vets you as worth submitting to.
I hope you feel better speaking your peace, but like I said originally, all the evidence points to body count negatively affecting women, not men. I'd be happy to break down anything you're unclear or unfamiliar with.
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 02:01:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 10:52:54 ago (+0/-0)
If being wholesome is more important than losing half your shit and getting fucking raped by the court system and not seeing your kids, by all means walk into it blind like you're advocating for.
My advice prevents that for young men. Your advice continues the 70 to 80% divorce rate by pretending the world isn't the way it is.
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 18:09:38 ago (+0/-0)
My way has men thinking with the big head and actually getting to know a woman before they take off their clothes. My way takes away the whore's greatest weapon,sex,and forces her to stand on her own merits. My way stops men from giving money to women who just want to use them. My way stops the bullshit and makes you think things through.
Your jewing has no power here.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 19:33:58 ago (+0/-0)*
You're just like Helena, you don't live in the real world. I can't even talk to you without you straw manning what I'm saying, like stick your raw dick into whores, get STDs, and have shotgun weddings. That's what niggers do and not at all what I'm advocating for. You are a retard even if you mean well. Don't ever go on anything to debate anyone.
Men shouldn't be fucking whores. They should only be fucking women that they think could possibly maybe someday be worth a commitment or else why spend time on them? Quit relating your retarded bullshit to what I'm saying.
You have it backwards. My way removes sex as a weapon. My way has men thinking with their big head because they learn how women move. Your way is naive by definition, because you couldn't know how women behave and think. My way forces you to weigh a woman by her value and merits. My way stops men from being simps like you and giving money to women who touch their pee pee. My way allows you to find a woman of value worth commitment.
You can't at all demonstrate to me how an ignorant virgin male would not get eaten alive in the dating pool. You are delusional, again.
How long have you been married? How long have you been divorced? Do you get to see your kids? How long have your sons been married? Do you have any friends? Which ones are still married and which ones aren't? I'm guessing the ones who married whores because they didn't know any better and the ones who married the first woman who touched their pee pee just like my friends. Right?
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 20:55:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 21:17:03 ago (+0/-0)
You can't steel man my argument after this long; you are retarded.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 20:58:39 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 3 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 00:49:22 ago (+3/-0)
Its how our species is supposed to evole through natural selection.
The worse men get no mates. The best men all the mates.
The thing is men reading this post, mislead by thus feminist hags post.
A male have sex with ten different females can produce 10 pregnancies.
A female taking 10 male sex partners gets pregnant once and to an unknown father.
Ergo women can be whores while men can only be studs.
Facts.
The issue that broke our white species is female sexual liberation coupled with the pill.
In the future, the only survivors will be groups that once again own female bodies.
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:38:35 ago (+1/-0)
Because if only one guy is breeding,that means all the kids will be related and lead to inbreeding. A varied stock is always preferable. Within certain limits,of course.
So no,a handful of assholes bogarting all the babes isn't the way things should be and ultimately leads to a lot of trouble for everyone.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 06:22:34 ago (+0/-0)
The problem isn't just the pill, it's also an economic system that fucked over the vast majority of hard working men. Men are still responsible for doing all the difficult, dangerous, and dirty jobs that are needed to put food on people's tables and roofs over people's heads, but the men working those jobs get far less respect and pay than they used to, while the financial class at the top is hoarding more wealth stolen through inflationary banking than ever. That creates a distorted system where an elite that has earned nothing through real work can afford to be playboys and sex traffic young women while normal men who work real jobs can't afford to take care of one wife without her working too.
Until we fix the economic system, the men who feed and shelter everyone will continue to be broke, single, and unhappy, jerking it to porn or trying to find a hookup because they can't afford to provide for a woman well enough for her to stick around for more regular sex. Meanwhile women won't feel the economic need to pair with a man for survival because the economic overlords will pay them to harass male workers from an HR position or teach refugee kids how to keep the machines running without thinking too much, separating them from their very real dependence on men. And the elite want it that way, because women who are pretending they're capable of being independent (while failing to recognize that their independence is dependent on the system that's enslaving us) are easier to push into hookup culture and sex work and being trafficked.
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 10:44:50 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 11:04:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 12:35:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 13:26:43 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 19:39:34 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 19:49:19 ago (+3/-2)
Do we enforce such a rule upon blacks and browns, artificially? Do we leave them alone to sort this shit out themselves in the tropics? Or do we kill them all off when we accept that they will never be able to get along with each other or us?
I honestly think we as whites are being influenced by the cultures of blacks and browns as much as they are being influenced by us. Monkey see , monkey do.
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:42:04 ago (+0/-0)
What we need is to find a way to defend against jewish treachery.
[ + ] nibnab
[ - ] nibnab 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 14:05:07 ago (+1/-0)
Men did follow a group policy, and then feminism came and women lined up to betray mankind.
The Hebrews had a good policy, stone adulterers to death.
JC sort of fucked that one up for the goyim.
A certain number of men will die in war and jobs women can't or won't do.
A certain number of women will become whores.
JC said it's better to pay a whore the price of loaf of bread then to commit adultery.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 14:59:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:41:13 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:30:47 ago (+0/-0)
Just as feminist jews told women to be "sexually liberated",porn jews told men to go get all the pussy they can. It's all appealing to the baser instincts and that's how they got us. Both genders. And now we're all pissed at each other and no one's happy.
[ + ] Storefront
[ - ] Storefront 1 point 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 15:59:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 4 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 19:22:07 ago (+4/-0)
Men shouldn't be whores.
Now, the issue is, women are more affected by whoring i.e unable to pair bond.
There's no such thing as a male virgin.
Women are disgusted by virgins and use inkwell as some sort of insult.
Women get loaded up on male DNA from all the cum they take, this doesn't happen to men.
Probably more too. Still, men shouldn't whore. It rots the soul, just like porn.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 20:59:16 ago (+1/-3)
Well apparently you are unable to pair bond with women with high body counts. So I guess you are just as affected as women.
Yes there is. It was a white value even in pre-christian times for men to be celibate before marriage.
No we aren’t. Not generally. Men insult women for not “putting out” or being a “cold fish” . Should I extrapolate those comments to derive the agenda of men as a whole?
More MGTOW retardation. The source of microchimerism in females has never been established. It can be from male siblings, male pregnancies, etc. How do you know it doesn’t happen to men? Its never been studied.
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 4 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 16:06:07 ago (+5/-1)
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[ - ] Nosferatjew 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:17:48 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:40:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 23:48:24 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Rob3122 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 21:22:44 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Peleg
[ - ] Peleg 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 22:51:55 ago (+3/-0)
Grandma was right.
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 19:37:16 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 09:06:45 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 10:37:14 ago (+0/-0)
But Christianity is monogamous and has enforced it more consistently than any other society in the world. Credit where credit is due.
Interestingly jews living in Europe went against the Torah to adopt monogamy.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 11:03:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 11:53:18 ago (+0/-0)
Yeah I agree. Cool weather + high humidity = farmer monogamists. We had the right climate to promote monogamy
Don’t agree. We are going to think our way out of this problem, not “nigger” our way out of it. Polygamy will select for men more like middle-easterners. Whats wrong with middle-easterners? Most of the faggots around here think its because they have a drop of nigger blood in them or somethng. Theres no evidence of that. Middle easterners have basically the same ancestry as us. The problem is they have been more polygamous.
Polygamy (polygyny) does not increase population of a race. There are a limited number of uteruses in any given population and there is a hard limit to the number of babies they can put out. Polygyny only creates reproductive disparity among the men of the population which favors more nigger like strategies over “good dad” strategies. The disenfranchised males of the society will often resort to stealing women from other nations. Polygyny is the primary driver of race mixing in human evolution.
Who are your dispossessed males going to fuck/marry when their potential wives are being hoarded by higher status males? How are you going to make up for this discrepancy when theres no females for up to 50% of the white male population. Are you going to kill off these exess males through warfare or slavery. Or allow them to take brown wives? These are the typical solutions to the problem historically.
You faggots don’t think about the math of polygyny. Ive said it over and over. Can one of you just discuss how you propose to solve this problem of insufficient females for the white male population? Can you acknowlege massive disparity that’s created when you implement polygyny? None of you have shown that you have any understanding about how changing one thing like monogamy/polygamy will totally alter who we are as a race, behaviorally. How do you think we got to be white people? By doing shit like mudslimes do them? You will squander our Whiteness with your arrogance.
Monogamy isn’t about being weak. Its about males being lock-step in synch with their fellow men rather than constantly fighting over pussy, which is guaranteed in polygyny.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 12:34:16 ago (+0/-0)
If they're not helping resist the jews, no one, because they don't deserve a wife if they won't fight for their people.
Polygamy was always a way to reward men who defended their people by giving them the women their fallen comrades would have gotten so defending your people would look like a better option than staying home like a coward. We need that strategy again until our people are free.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 15:23:55 ago (+0/-0)
Youve got it backwards. What you mean is that polygamy (polygyny) is an incentive that fuels brother wars. Are extra wives a reward for selflessly defending the people? Or do aggressive males gain a reproductive advantage by picking stupid fights which result in high male mortality and extra females for the remaining males? Didn’t this occur to you?
Not only is EVERY polygynous society hyperaggressive and warlike but you see the same phenomenon in other “polygynous” animals as well. This is why anthropologists of the 70s and 80s studied primate societies. Gorillas have mating patterns similar to polygynous societies. Chimpanzees have a pattern closer to matrilineal polygamous societies. Male gorillas aren’t doing female gorillas a favor by fighting with other male gorillas. Homocide is a logical strategy for polygynists competing to hoard as many females as possible. The fact that males can hoard multiple females is the cause of all wars. That is why women don’t go to war. By enforcing monogamy, the need to war goes away and males are no longer strongly selected for nigger/gorilla traits.
We are never going to nigger our way out of our problems. Human polygyny is not supportable without slavery. That has always been true since the neolithic. Polygamous males support their harems through slavery. We already have aggressive polygynous white men. They are called billionaires and they are allied with the jews. You are their slave. They own you. Thats what polygynists are like. Theyre not principled like you think and they don’t give a shit about the white race, only themselves.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 18:15:11 ago (+0/-0)
You've also made the argument in the past that monogamous societies are extremely peaceful - almost as if their men have 0 incentive to go fight and risk their lives if there's no reward of more offspring in exchange for the risk - and you're still arguing that polygamy fuels violence.
Well, guess what? Violence has been a part of life for literally the entire history of life since your earliest ancestors were nothing but protein chains ripping each other apart for carbon molecules to make more of themselves with. The ability to be violent when needed is necessary to human survival. A society that no one is motivated to fight for is a society that will die out and be replaced by some other society that gives people a reason to fight for it.
As soon as you drop the false dichotomy, your own arguments about monogamy vs polygamy are all the reason you need to want a society that is exactly as polygamous as it needs to be to motivate men to fight for its survival against other societies, but no more polygamous so that it isn't burdened by excess violence.
So yeah, we don't want a society where everyone gets to be polygamous - we want a society where a small percent of men get a bonus wife because they contributed to the survival of their society, a majority of men still get one wife, and the most useless men don't get a wife. The optimal level of polygamy is less than the muslims have but not none, and regulated enough that you have to earn the extra wife and can't just kill another member of your society and take his wife.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 23:38:53 ago (+0/-0)
Yes I agree. Im simplifying these societies. In “polygynous” societies the majority of the unions are still probably monogamous and polygynous women might only be 10 to 30% of all married women. Thats high enough for bad things to happen. Even the most monogamous societies probably have 2 to 5% polygamy even if its clandestine. But the most monogamous people in history are the germanics. Theyve been documented as largely monogamous since pre-christian times.
Monogamous societies are not extremely peaceful. They are just more peaceful than all other non-monogamous societies. Men have zero incentive to fight and risk their lives if there's no reward of more offspring in exchange for that risk. Correct. Males can take one of two strategies: being a good dad (monogamy) or being a mass fertilizer (polygamy). As you say this is really not a dichotomy but a line of continuum. The most monogamous will be selected for “good dad” qualities and that going to be mostly stuff related to economic productivity.
Whites have become less and less violent though over thousands of years. Was that a mistake? The alternative is niggers. They are truly closer to nature, closer to the behavior of our wild ancestors. Even the genetic trait that causes our white skin makes us less violent. You don’t need to be impulsively violent when brains to outsmart the violent people around you.
Any polygamy will lead to a comensurate increase in excess violence. Its dysgenic. And disparity of reproduction among males doesn’t just lead to violence, it leads to increased economic disparity among males. Polygyny is financed by slavery and other similar exploitive strategies. The most exploitive males (of other whites!) will outreproduce everyone. Im telling you, this is why the middle east is shit. It became arid several thousand years ago and pastoralists took over. Pastoralists are all polygynists and they are barbaric corrupt fuckers. They love slavery. That didn’t happen to us because europe is moist.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 monthsMar 27, 2025 00:09:06 ago (+0/-0)
Some amount of economic disparity among males is desirable. Evolution requires both selection and diversity, and men bear the brunt of selection (much more likely to get removed from the gene pool) while women maintain diversity (much larger percentage of women have kids but fewer maximum kids). Ability to commit violence is certainly not the only thing we should be competing over, but we should be competing for the good of our genes. It's just a question of how much, and finding the right balance, some but not so much that we slide into degeneracy like the muslims did.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:12:49 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 19:41:08 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
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[ + ] Hobama
[ - ] Hobama 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:12:36 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:13:53 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 17:45:58 ago (+0/-0)
Once women were taught to avoid the wolves who just wanted to pump and dump. Now they're told to steer into them. Guess why.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:43:00 ago (+2/-3)
Youre looking for a wife right? Not trying to form a circus act? “What if I can’t perform muh sexual tricks?” Seriously? This is such a jewish excuse.
[ + ] Hobama
[ - ] Hobama 4 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 00:35:38 ago (+4/-0)
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[ - ] Hobama 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 00:54:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 06:25:06 ago (+0/-0)
That's a terrible insult to a man and not insulting at all to a woman. Big difference in the expectations women have for men and men have for women.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 10:33:03 ago (+0/-1)
This is retarded thinking. You’re priorities are all fucked up guys. A guy who knows himself and doesn’t give a shit about how he’ll be judged on the jew controlled culture continuum is sexy
@hobama
[ + ] WNwoman
[ - ] WNwoman 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:47:05 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 2 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 03:39:16 ago (+2/-0)
Also the second paternity testing becomes mandatory and child support becomes abolished, women will better select for mates rather than whore about and rely on the state.
Until then, nothing will change.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 11:57:10 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Storefront
[ - ] Storefront 1 point 2 monthsMar 26, 2025 22:10:14 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 monthsMar 25, 2025 09:10:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:20:11 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:00:05 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 2 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 16:41:14 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 20:19:29 ago (+2/-1)
Men for all time until modern times made living easy you better fuck and spread the millions and millions of supermarket you produce before 1 of a million things could kill you... we make millions of fucking sperm if we only made a thousand and they only worked 5 days out of the month you would have a better argument
Women on the other hand are born with all their eggs and it ain't easy to get pregnant unless your a nigger or other assorted darkie it seems... I digress also getting pregnant made you easier to kill for most of humanity or the pregnancy might kill you... so guess what they should be very carefull and not fuck some retard with no social status or physical abilities or they will end up dead or for most of humanity a fucking labled single mom whore who can't keep a man...
So there is all that every one who knows anything knows the difference and for most of humanity a man with wealth and power could have many offspring and support them... Elon musk using jew fake money is keeping the tradition alive.
With all of that I agree with you if I could go back I'd wait fins the ideal woman and have as many strong white kids as I could and be totally happy.
I agree with you but nature and logic don't Christian value helped push what you think is ideal and I think is ideal but Christianity is not good for white men becauee it is based off sand nigger religions now why whites abandoned philosophy or their early gods is weird why didn't they come up with something like Christianity instead we had weird what jews call pagem religions that just couldn't stand up against the jew zionist lies...
Solutions? Live Christian values but don't worship a dirty sand nigger jew religion
[ + ] NuckFiggers
[ - ] NuckFiggers 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:09:47 ago (+1/-0)
After more than a generation of being attacked, nagged and constantly bitched at men have finally learned and are no longer stepping forward to help women for free. If they marry women are still expected to pay her way or at least do things around the home (which is impossible for many women).
But, since she's a woman, there's always ways out. They can whore themselves, either virtually with a whore site like Onlyfans or they can do it literally. Even if they call it something retarded like sugarbabying. This also extends to women that call themselves poly. That's just another way to have a man pay for shit. AKA, a whore.
The sad thing is, there's no way out for women. Real men that would encourage their feminity and want them to be moms don't marry whores and women can't do most jobs. So it's either end up broke and homeless, marry some simp (whore), prostitute virtually (whore), go out on the street and try to find a job (whore) or expect the government (all of us) to pay for her (whore)
Thanks, feminism!
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:25:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:56:09 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] ShortbusAlcoholic
[ - ] ShortbusAlcoholic 0 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:47:03 ago (+1/-1)
Modern marriage is gay. Men who marry are gay.
Women ARE whores, it's literally in their DNA to be whores.
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 0 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 16:37:54 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] GreatSatan
[ - ] GreatSatan -1 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 19:53:24 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit -1 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 17:59:38 ago (+2/-3)
Men are not whoremongers, they are whore makers. It is completely different between men and women. A key that opens many locks is a master key but a lock that opens for many keys is a shitty lock.
This isn't 1950. The only way for men to learn how women move and not be a total simp and marry the wrong woman is to go through a few of them. More than a few of them.
Not all women are wife material. Blame it on whatever you want, but it doesn't make it less true.
But by all means, encourage your sons to be virgins when they get married so that they can get raped out of half their shit when they get older because they don't understand women at all. Or you know, encourage them to learn how women think and behave and only then find a virgin chick to marry. I know what I did and it's 14 years next month; we're happy as can be.
I'm in no way encouraging people to behave like the Tate brothers.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 3 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 18:15:15 ago (+4/-1)
Far more important than experience with women is the willingness to kill the slut if she tries to leave.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 1 point 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 20:13:27 ago (+1/-0)
You're not wrong, there.
Far more important is the ability to stay cool and show her the door.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -7 points 2 monthsMar 24, 2025 16:53:47 ago (+1/-8)