Starship/Superheavy development is mostly funded via Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launch contracts, along with Starlink sales and subscriptions. The government funding is via the Artemis program, but that's a fixed-price contract, which means they have to deliver the specified product for the agreed price, regardless of what it actually ends up costing.
The Artemis contract is $2.3bn, and that's all they're getting from the government. But SpaceX revenue from Starlink and F9/FH launches is $31.4bn between 2020 and 2024. Their revenue in 2024 alone was $14.2bn
And before you whine about "b-b-but some of those launches are for teh gubbermint!", those missions are delivering a product, not "here's some money to come up with something."
But don't let facts get in the way of your kvetching, obviously.
We once had an Apollo program. Plans for space stations, moon colonies and mining and star ships (vaun bruan ships, actually)
But we had to shut that all down for the inner city nego. Had to do "Housing as a right," welfare/food and schooling for the negro. (seriously thats why the space program got shut down in the late 70's There was a massive democratic led call to re-rout the space monies into welfare..)
We got project housing (most are now gone/torn down), welfare and industrial prison schools/ebonics that teach even less today, instead.
If we would have stayed on path. We'ed have been minning h3 from the moon by the 90's (for all the clean energy a world could want) and mining the asteroids (for all the wealth a world could want) as well as gave humans a purpose...
Fuck, those Vuan Bruan ships could have been to Alpha Centuri B and back by now, with their .99c engines. Just fucking think of that for a moment... We could have gone and been back from the nearest star system, if not for the welfare negro.
The famous speech from the apollo launch pad by a young Jessy Jackson SR. surrounded by a gaggle of little niglets: "The white man is going to the moon. He's not building me a house...the white man is building moon buggies...he's not giving me a car... The white man is inventing tang....He's not buying my groceries..."
Nope. had to appease the race baiters and ditch the coolest, hardest thing man has ever done...all for the black activists; Jessy Jackson, al sharpton and the like. Those fuckers set back humanity about 200 years.
Difficult to quantify how costly it is to manage the negro and the spic and all the other flavors of shitskins. They clearly consume more than they produce. Shitskins will always fight economic accountability and spin it as hate, because , to them, it is hate.
Opportunity missed? Perhaps we put the niggers in the space craft and point it towards Arcturus……?
Sad side effect would be an alien race intercepting the craft and thinking niggers are ambassadors from Earth….., death ray from space and we all pay the price..
Anyway, this comment is again sponsored by NIGGERS IN SPACE….., Saturday at Eight only on Fox!
Yeah, the sign of a successful mission is the rocket exploding and flights for hundreds of miles around having to be diverted as flaming debris rains down.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 14:15:06 ago (+2/-1)
Here nigger, read.
The seventh flight test of Starship and Super Heavy flew with ambitious goals, aiming to successfully repeat the core capability of returning and catching a booster while launching an upgraded design of the upper stage. While not every test objective was completed, the lessons learned will roll directly into future vehicles to make them more capable as Starship advances toward full and rapid reuse.
On January 16, 2025, Starship successfully lifted off at 4:37 p.m. CT from Starbase in Texas. At launch, all 33 Raptor engines on the Super Heavy booster started up successfully and completed a full duration burn during ascent. After powering down all but the three center engines on Super Heavy, Starship ignited all six of its Raptor engines to separate in a hot-staging maneuver and continue its ascent to space.
Following stage separation, Super Heavy initiated its boostback burn to propel the rocket toward its intended landing location. It successfully lit 12 of the 13 engines commanded to start, with a single Raptor on the middle ring safely aborting on startup due to a low-power condition in the igniter system. Raptor engines on upcoming flights have a pre-planned igniter upgrade to mitigate this issue. The boostback burn was completed successfully and sent Super Heavy back to the launch site for catch.
The booster successfully relit all 13 planned middle ring and center Raptor engines for its landing burn, including the engine that did not relight for boostback burn. The landing burn slowed the booster down and maneuvered it to the launch and catch tower arms at Starbase, resulting in the second ever successful catch of Super Heavy.
After vehicle separation, Starship's six second stage Raptor engines powered the vehicle along its expected trajectory. Approximately two minutes into its burn, a flash was observed in the aft section of the vehicle near one of the Raptor vacuum engines. This aft section, commonly referred to as the attic, is an unpressurized area between the bottom of the liquid oxygen tank and the aft heatshield. Sensors in the attic detected a pressure rise indicative of a leak after the flash was seen.
Roughly two minutes later, another flash was observed followed by sustained fires in the attic. These eventually caused all but one of Starship’s engines to execute controlled shut down sequences and ultimately led to a loss of communication with the ship. Telemetry from the vehicle was last received just over eight minutes and 20 seconds into flight.
Contact with Starship was lost prior to triggering any destruct rules for its Autonomous Flight Safety System, which was fully healthy when communication was lost. The vehicle was observed to break apart approximately three minutes after loss of contact during descent. Post-flight analysis indicates that the safety system did trigger autonomously, and breakup occurred within Flight Termination System expectations.
The most probable root cause for the loss of ship was identified as a harmonic response several times stronger in flight than had been seen during testing, which led to increased stress on hardware in the propulsion system. The subsequent propellant leaks exceeded the venting capability of the ship’s attic area and resulted in sustained fires.
Immediately following the anomaly, the pre-coordinated response plan developed by SpaceX, the FAA, and ATO (air traffic control) went into effect. All debris came down within the pre-planned Debris Response Area, and there were no hazardous materials present in the debris and no significant impacts expected to occur to marine species or water quality. SpaceX reached out immediately to the government of Turks and Caicos and worked with them and the United Kingdom to coordinate recovery and cleanup efforts. While an early end to the flight test is never a desired outcome, the measures put in place ahead of launch demonstrated their ability to keep the public safe.
SpaceX led the investigation efforts with oversight from the FAA and participation from NASA, the National Transportation Safety Board, and the U.S. Space Force. SpaceX is working with the FAA to either close the mishap investigation or receive a flight safety determination, along with working on a license authorization to enable its next flight of Starship.
As part of the investigation, an extended duration static fire was completed with the Starship flying on the eighth flight test. The 60-second firing was used to test multiple engine thrust levels and three separate hardware configurations in the Raptor vacuum engine feedlines to recreate and address the harmonic response seen during Flight 7. Findings from the static fire informed hardware changes to the fuel feedlines to vacuum engines, adjustments to propellant temperatures, and a new operating thrust target that will be used on the upcoming flight test.
To address flammability potential in the attic section on Starship, additional vents and a new purge system utilizing gaseous nitrogen are being added to the current generation of ships to make the area more robust to propellant leakage. Future upgrades to Starship will introduce the Raptor 3 engine, reducing the attic volume and eliminating the majority of joints that can leak into this volume.
Starship’s seventh flight test was a reminder that developmental progress is not always linear, and putting flight hardware in a flight environment is the fastest way to demonstrate how thousands of distinct parts come together to reach space. Upcoming flights will continue to target ambitious goals in the pursuit of full and rapid reusability.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 13:15:49 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 5 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 08:58:50 ago (+5/-0)
- https://www.zerohedge.com/political/far-left-dc-mayor-bends-knee-plans-rename-black-lives-matter-plaza-after-gop-bill
[ + ] Drstrangestgov
[ - ] Drstrangestgov 2 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 09:19:35 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] -2 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 12:03:05 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 1 point 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 15:02:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 15:01:50 ago (+0/-0)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches_(2010%E2%80%932019)#Launches
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Elon was 4 of 4 for successful launches in 2024, and has 2 had partial failures in 2025 so far.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Starship_launches#Launch_outcomes
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 15:09:46 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 15:31:00 ago (+0/-0)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5JZNF7HWu0
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] -1 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 16:29:56 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 4 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 11:37:44 ago (+4/-0)
The Artemis contract is $2.3bn, and that's all they're getting from the government. But SpaceX revenue from Starlink and F9/FH launches is $31.4bn between 2020 and 2024. Their revenue in 2024 alone was $14.2bn
And before you whine about "b-b-but some of those launches are for teh gubbermint!", those missions are delivering a product, not "here's some money to come up with something."
But don't let facts get in the way of your kvetching, obviously.
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper 4 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 10:41:26 ago (+4/-0)*
But we had to shut that all down for the inner city nego. Had to do "Housing as a right," welfare/food and schooling for the negro. (seriously thats why the space program got shut down in the late 70's There was a massive democratic led call to re-rout the space monies into welfare..)
We got project housing (most are now gone/torn down), welfare and industrial prison schools/ebonics that teach even less today, instead.
If we would have stayed on path. We'ed have been minning h3 from the moon by the 90's (for all the clean energy a world could want) and mining the asteroids (for all the wealth a world could want) as well as gave humans a purpose...
Fuck, those Vuan Bruan ships could have been to Alpha Centuri B and back by now, with their .99c engines. Just fucking think of that for a moment... We could have gone and been back from the nearest star system, if not for the welfare negro.
The famous speech from the apollo launch pad by a young Jessy Jackson SR. surrounded by a gaggle of little niglets: "The white man is going to the moon. He's not building me a house...the white man is building moon buggies...he's not giving me a car... The white man is inventing tang....He's not buying my groceries..."
Nope. had to appease the race baiters and ditch the coolest, hardest thing man has ever done...all for the black activists; Jessy Jackson, al sharpton and the like. Those fuckers set back humanity about 200 years.
NOT AGAIN! Send those rockets, whatever the cost.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 13:21:00 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Deplorablepoetry
[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 13:15:09 ago (+0/-0)
Opportunity missed? Perhaps we put the niggers in the space craft and point it towards Arcturus……?
Sad side effect would be an alien race intercepting the craft and thinking niggers are ambassadors from Earth….., death ray from space and we all pay the price..
Anyway, this comment is again sponsored by NIGGERS IN SPACE….., Saturday at Eight only on Fox!
[ + ] CowboyHenk
[ - ] CowboyHenk 1 point 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 16:15:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 09:59:38 ago (+2/-0)
Stop being retarded.
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 11:59:39 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 12:10:38 ago (+2/-0)
You obviously aren't following the program or know anything about this.
They hope to launch 1 a month. Every one is expected to blow up at some point.
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 12:36:20 ago (+2/-2)
You really are a dipshit, aren't you?
[ + ] BloodyComet
[ - ] BloodyComet 4 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 12:56:32 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 14:15:06 ago (+2/-1)
The seventh flight test of Starship and Super Heavy flew with ambitious goals, aiming to successfully repeat the core capability of returning and catching a booster while launching an upgraded design of the upper stage. While not every test objective was completed, the lessons learned will roll directly into future vehicles to make them more capable as Starship advances toward full and rapid reuse.
On January 16, 2025, Starship successfully lifted off at 4:37 p.m. CT from Starbase in Texas. At launch, all 33 Raptor engines on the Super Heavy booster started up successfully and completed a full duration burn during ascent. After powering down all but the three center engines on Super Heavy, Starship ignited all six of its Raptor engines to separate in a hot-staging maneuver and continue its ascent to space.
Following stage separation, Super Heavy initiated its boostback burn to propel the rocket toward its intended landing location. It successfully lit 12 of the 13 engines commanded to start, with a single Raptor on the middle ring safely aborting on startup due to a low-power condition in the igniter system. Raptor engines on upcoming flights have a pre-planned igniter upgrade to mitigate this issue. The boostback burn was completed successfully and sent Super Heavy back to the launch site for catch.
The booster successfully relit all 13 planned middle ring and center Raptor engines for its landing burn, including the engine that did not relight for boostback burn. The landing burn slowed the booster down and maneuvered it to the launch and catch tower arms at Starbase, resulting in the second ever successful catch of Super Heavy.
After vehicle separation, Starship's six second stage Raptor engines powered the vehicle along its expected trajectory. Approximately two minutes into its burn, a flash was observed in the aft section of the vehicle near one of the Raptor vacuum engines. This aft section, commonly referred to as the attic, is an unpressurized area between the bottom of the liquid oxygen tank and the aft heatshield. Sensors in the attic detected a pressure rise indicative of a leak after the flash was seen.
Roughly two minutes later, another flash was observed followed by sustained fires in the attic. These eventually caused all but one of Starship’s engines to execute controlled shut down sequences and ultimately led to a loss of communication with the ship. Telemetry from the vehicle was last received just over eight minutes and 20 seconds into flight.
Contact with Starship was lost prior to triggering any destruct rules for its Autonomous Flight Safety System, which was fully healthy when communication was lost. The vehicle was observed to break apart approximately three minutes after loss of contact during descent. Post-flight analysis indicates that the safety system did trigger autonomously, and breakup occurred within Flight Termination System expectations.
The most probable root cause for the loss of ship was identified as a harmonic response several times stronger in flight than had been seen during testing, which led to increased stress on hardware in the propulsion system. The subsequent propellant leaks exceeded the venting capability of the ship’s attic area and resulted in sustained fires.
Immediately following the anomaly, the pre-coordinated response plan developed by SpaceX, the FAA, and ATO (air traffic control) went into effect. All debris came down within the pre-planned Debris Response Area, and there were no hazardous materials present in the debris and no significant impacts expected to occur to marine species or water quality. SpaceX reached out immediately to the government of Turks and Caicos and worked with them and the United Kingdom to coordinate recovery and cleanup efforts. While an early end to the flight test is never a desired outcome, the measures put in place ahead of launch demonstrated their ability to keep the public safe.
SpaceX led the investigation efforts with oversight from the FAA and participation from NASA, the National Transportation Safety Board, and the U.S. Space Force. SpaceX is working with the FAA to either close the mishap investigation or receive a flight safety determination, along with working on a license authorization to enable its next flight of Starship.
As part of the investigation, an extended duration static fire was completed with the Starship flying on the eighth flight test. The 60-second firing was used to test multiple engine thrust levels and three separate hardware configurations in the Raptor vacuum engine feedlines to recreate and address the harmonic response seen during Flight 7. Findings from the static fire informed hardware changes to the fuel feedlines to vacuum engines, adjustments to propellant temperatures, and a new operating thrust target that will be used on the upcoming flight test.
To address flammability potential in the attic section on Starship, additional vents and a new purge system utilizing gaseous nitrogen are being added to the current generation of ships to make the area more robust to propellant leakage. Future upgrades to Starship will introduce the Raptor 3 engine, reducing the attic volume and eliminating the majority of joints that can leak into this volume.
Starship’s seventh flight test was a reminder that developmental progress is not always linear, and putting flight hardware in a flight environment is the fastest way to demonstrate how thousands of distinct parts come together to reach space. Upcoming flights will continue to target ambitious goals in the pursuit of full and rapid reusability.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 13:38:32 ago (+2/-2)
Next time, try actually watching the launch. They'll explain it all to you.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 2 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 09:28:58 ago (+2/-0)*
and recent https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1897792820242792942
[ + ] LiberalsAreMental
[ - ] LiberalsAreMental 0 points 2 monthsMar 7, 2025 18:23:15 ago (+0/-0)