You've obviously never had to store hay in the second floor of a barn. I have. This is innovative genius. Also, this is in the region where my ancestors lived.
Of course, with modern equipment. I'm dating myself, but when I was very young I helped pull bales off a bale elevator and dragged them to the back of the hayloft so the men could stack them high.
What kind of magical modern equipment are you imagining associated with a pole barn? It's poles holding up a roof to keep the hay out of the rain. There aren't even walls. It's about the lowest tech thing there is.
I know. But you need a tractor or frontend loader to move it around. Once it was in the hayloft,all you needed was gravity and a couple holes in the floor.
Are you kidding that ramp is rocks and dirt? You just need a small tractor or a wheel barrow and a strong back set up the out line stack up the rocks with a good base and fill it in and pack it down.. the barn would be expensive unless you had access to cheap lumber or had an old barn that you could demo and slavage
Even if the rocks are free in the field and you are only using your own labor, the labor is going to cost SOMETHING, that something being: value = cost_of_calories + time / value_of_doing_something_else
the value of "value" for a ramp is probably going to be less for a ramp than multiple/bigger barns.
"The barn and barn staircase of Lars Petter Olsen, in Framgarden in Valldal, was completed in 1885. It was until then the largest and most modern barn. Lars Petter spent seven years building the barn bridge with stone, which he picked up on the mountainside."
@Puller_of_Noses ...are you being serious or joking around?....have you ever seen how gardens are grown on the slopes of dormant volcanos in tropical islands?...the ugliest jagged rock in the world with pockets of trapped soil, a few tablespoons of soil at that, a pocket with "maybe" a half dozen cubic inches of soil, yet it'll produce 3 stalks of corn with 3 good sized ears on each one, I've seen cabbage the size of Paul Neri's head grow out of those pockets, what doesn't grow is the tubers simply because of the lack of depth...I've even seen watermelons grown in those pockets but with the required water supply.
Serious. A White man will take an unplowable field of boulders and dig them up to make stone fences (or elevated egress to the 2nd floor of your barn) to improve the land. A negro will destroy any environment he lives in and complain about racism.
I watched my father turn 120acres of sand and clay into arable earth, a lot of manure, a shit load of rotted wood, bark, chips and sawdust from the board mill and a proportionate amount of lime...the oats and barley he produced had even the Mennonites and Amish impressed...but then again, that's what we Russians do.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 7 points 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 17:24:43 ago (+8/-1)
You might as well just build four single story barns.
[ + ] BoozyB
[ - ] BoozyB 8 points 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 19:59:02 ago (+8/-0)
This is innovative genius.
Also, this is in the region where my ancestors lived.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 21:48:27 ago (+1/-0)
No second story required.
[ + ] BoozyB
[ - ] BoozyB 2 points 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 22:19:22 ago (+2/-0)
I'm dating myself, but when I was very young I helped pull bales off a bale elevator and dragged them to the back of the hayloft so the men could stack them high.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 22:25:30 ago (+1/-0)
It's poles holding up a roof to keep the hay out of the rain.
There aren't even walls.
It's about the lowest tech thing there is.
[ + ] BoozyB
[ - ] BoozyB 3 points 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 22:44:14 ago (+3/-0)
But you need a tractor or frontend loader to move it around.
Once it was in the hayloft,all you needed was gravity and a couple holes in the floor.
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[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2 monthsFeb 11, 2025 21:41:42 ago (+0/-0)
value = cost_of_calories + time / value_of_doing_something_else
the value of "value" for a ramp is probably going to be less for a ramp than multiple/bigger barns.
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[ + ] TheNoticing
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Definitely imagined and built by White men.
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Building railroads or dry cleaning?
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HAIHAI! velly funny!
Aweso Big in gol lush in commifolna
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[ + ] Puller_of_Noses
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Ha ha, wait til they try to plant crops in those fields full of rocks.
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[ + ] Puller_of_Noses
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A White man will take an unplowable field of boulders and dig them up to make stone fences (or elevated egress to the 2nd floor of your barn) to improve the land. A negro will destroy any environment he lives in and complain about racism.
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