...then I would implement the same across the board with Hardwood maple logs and then Alberta & Hibernia Crude oil.
But this won't happen because the faggots running the country are of the position that retaliation is a form of aggression and sends the wrong message to people, it glamorizes violence and we have to protect the children.
I really don't give a felonious fuck about this shithole of a frozen rock anyways. Bring it down.
We do NOT need shit from canaduh or mehico. They can go to hell. Both are shitholes where someone felt sorry for them a long time ago and tried to help them out. Fuck that shit! Let em rot in their transgender degeneracy.
Thank you again President Trump. This is LONG OVERDUE
- Canada will take a leading roll in making sure all Israeli politicians and everyone in the Israeli military are tried for War Crimes. - Canada will make sure that any politicians, from any countries, who interfere will be brought before the international courts.
- The only way to prevent this is for the US to pay a 25% subsidy to Canadian imports.
Tariffs, and retaliatory tariffs, only hurt the people. Go after the politicians and their puppet masters to get results.
Learn some basic econ. Tariffs are not an economic strategy. The only thing they ever are good for is geo-political pressure. On the economic front they will always hurt both sides. You can't benefit yourself with a Tariff.
@Reunto ...up to 1967/68 Canada American relations were solid, LBJ & Trudeau senior fucked that up, it's also a fact that slimeball Trudeau, JESUIT, was under the influence of USSR jews and the "CLUB OF ROME" (MAURICE STRONG, FACILITATED GEORGIA GUIDESTONES), he was also in the grip of Castro which is why many of the FLQ terrorists, funded by France (De Gaul) were granted sanctuary in Cuba and a few in France. FYI...when Che Guevara was killed in Bolivia he had 3 suitcases full of freshly minted $100.00 US BILLS, 3 million $ which was for the financing of the "SOCIAL REVOLUTION" which nobody wanted. All arms and ammo throughout the Caribbean, with the exception of Haiti, are sourced from Cuba, Haiti and Latin America, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama and South America, come from Israel with ancillary support from the CIA and MI6/SCOTLAND YARD...the NARCO regions of Colombia, Ecuador, Peru(Peru is (((central narco base))) controlled by STEPAN INDUSTRIES ) Bolivia is somewhat neutral from kike control of cocaine just because it's a pain in the ass to the jewish drug lords but the jews know how to restrict flow and market access of powder. RIGHT NOW, IN REAL TIME, Haiti is controlled by a half dozen jewish families with the top jew billionaire oligarch (((Gilbert Bigio))), well know as one of the forces of influence that allow for shipments of arms to enter the country from Israel, AND WHY IS HE NOT BEING STOPPED, he's also the lead factor in the 3rd world transient problem, he facilitates the subversive movement of muslum shitskin terrorists and ugly worthless Haitians throughout the West. I have the facts on the little bit that I've mentioned here with a fuck of a lot more that I haven't mentioned, in fact I did bring a little bit to the attention of Home Land Security, of whom the superintendent for the central north sector was a good acquaintance, he got demoted and shipped to Georgia and I got banned from further entry into the states...and that's when I really turned hard-core against everything...people who think they know how much of a fucking they're taking are still ignorant of how big of a fucking we're taking...I've seen the corruption 1st hand, and, I cannot deny that I was involved in it up to my neck...my red line was the IRANIAN MADE IEDs being packed into America with the migrant terrorists, YEMENI MUJHAHADEEN is also involved...and nobody with authority in America gave 2 fucks about it...SO FUCK IT.
I really don't give a felonious fuck about this shithole of a frozen rock anyways. Bring it down.
LOL I love Canada. Great beer, amazing landscapes and the people are cool too. It's the kikes in charge that should have been hung yesterday exactly like the lower 48. I believe the lesson from Canada is that even small surrenders of gun rights have a huge impact. Those faggots need to be afraid or dead.
Just reduce imports to the US, and increase them elsewhere. A tariff war is just going to increase cost of goods in both countries for the common person. This is just another tax.
A tariff war is just going to increase cost of goods in both countries for the common person.
What a nearsighted take. What it does is create opportunities for domestics to compete. Prices of an outsourced thing have to come up, or we can't afford to pay our own guys to make the same thing where our cost of labor is higher. What will happen is domestic manufacturers will continue to expand until your options mirror the older, jewish outsourced options, but without the hidden tax of money permanently leaving your country.
It has to happen or things will continue to get worse, and the pain of the changeover also only gets worse the longer you wait (and the weaker you become, and the less capable you are of recovering, etc).
This, by the way, was the original reason for the half-decade cycle in oil prices. Common folk naively assume that OPEC cares about which jewish stooge wins our election, when it turns out that 4 years is about how long it took a new petro startup to be dangerous. They can't keep prices low forever or they don't make money, and when they raise them, almost immediately new domestic startups appear. Since they completely control the pricing, they just keep prices high overall, while purging the startups every few years.
Free trade creates more total opportunities in both countries. That's an economic fact and not up for debate unless a moron has entered the room. We aren't in the great depression and desperate for jobs. We don't need more jobs. We need jobs to pay more. And by pay more I mean yield a higher wage in terms of cost of living. Tariffs will always lead to lower paying work for the average person measured against the things they buy. Maybe they can boost pay for someone working in a specific industry if we were putting tariffs on one single good. But that's not what we are doing and that's not what we want. We want higher effective pay per hour for the average American. A tariff will never do that.
Go to school.
Also another fact that all of humanity needs to learn. No country was ever ruined by having a trade deficit. Countries have been ruined by having a trade surplus. In fact if the world was smarter people could realize that's what's happening to China. China has a 996 work culture. 9am to 9pm 6 days a week. They do a lot of manufacture. That is making real goods and not abstract productivity like desk jobs. They have a high degree of automation and cheap raw materials. By all logistical accounts they should have absurd physical abundance. Yet they can't afford anything. The trend is people not being able to get by despite a 996 schedule. Why? The physical product of their labor all ends up here.
We should watch it with these tariffs because we cut ties with China and they keep working the same their economy could boom.
You have a trade deficit with the grocery store. Do you think it would be efficient for you to have to work for the grocery store stocking shelves to have an equal amount earned and spent at the same place, on top of your normal job? No. You can do more effective work for others.
We shouldn't want to sell China anything. There is nothing we are good at that we would want to sell China, unless we want to give them even more technology transfer. A better model is we buy things from China and give them useless paper in exchange for actual good. We do consulting and engineering work for Europe. Europe makes cars that get sold to Russia and Ukraine. China buys grain off of Russia and Ukraine.
Unless you actually want equal trade with China you can do engineering work for China and have them take our jobs even faster.
Remember to think in terms of real value. Jobs aren't valuable. Money is. Money isn't valuable. Goods are. Jobs are two degrees away from what you actually want. Unless you have roves of masses wondering with zero access to work you don't want more work. You actually want less.
Free trade creates more total opportunities in both countries.
Jews argued this for centuries, as they were the original traders between countries, and, as you would expect, this statement lies by omission. The other important metric is the value of those opportunities, and for the country with the higher cost of labor, the value is necessarily lower. There are also arguments to be made about the so-called 'race to the bottom' that inevitably occurs when the relative cost of labor is lopsided between the two trading countries, but I don't have time for that now.
We don't need more jobs. We need jobs to pay more.
Again, nearsighted. We literally have no idea what we need, and can't figure it out while we also have the confounding problems of H1Bs, infinite illegals, etc.
Remember that jobs linked in a field create careers, and we have a huge problem of gatekeeping the entry level jobs in multiple disparate career paths where the peak pay is high. As the common complaint goes, yes IT can pay very well, but you'll never get started if the entry level positions require a bachelors, 6 years experience, and pay as much as retail. This is, of course, what the race to the bottom looks like.
We want higher effective pay per hour for the average American.
This doesn't happen in a vacuum. Certain things have to happen first. To know what those are, it helps to know how we got here.
When a country whose average labor cost is X trades with poorer country whose cost is 0.5X, we can expect goods and services to migrate away from the richer country to the poorer country. What happens next is that the labor cost of the richer country then decreases, while the cost of the poorer country increases, until the costs of import/export equal (for the sake of this simplified example) the difference of the cost of labor.
If this can't happen, the industry leaves the richer country forever (textiles, electronics, anything injection molded). If this can happen, then you have a permanently decreased cost of the laborer in the richer country (programmers/CS, most applied scientific disciplines, IT, engineering).
Literally free trade is why the average American finds his purchasing power robbed from him decade over decade.
A tariff will never do that.
A tariff increases the costs of import/export, which allows a larger spread between the poorer and richer country. Using the example earlier, if the stabilized labor costs become 0.8X for the richer country, and 0.65X for the poorer country, then we can know that the 0.15X difference in those costs are import/export costs. If the tariffs increase the import cost by 0.2X, then the richer country can sustain the original 1X labor cost it had.
The is the whole reason our country used tariffs going back to the time of its founding. It was protection.
Go to school.
I get paid to tutor math my man. These are basics and I don't understand how people can function as adults without understanding it.
[ - ] Hobama 1 point 3 monthsFeb 3, 2025 00:43:21 ago (+1/-0)
Dont argue with retards. He wont ever understand because he is incapable. What we really need is massive deregulation here. A company cant take a shit wihout getting some kind ofa shitting permit.
For me it's real simple. Free Trade(tm) = child slaves. Which means everyone in the world has to compete against the country with the cheapest possible child-slave market.
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction -2 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 14:37:15 ago (+0/-2)
Thank you again President Trump. This is LONG OVERDUE
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 2 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 20:27:02 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 17:59:43 ago (+0/-0)
- Canada will take a leading roll in making sure all Israeli politicians and everyone in the Israeli military are tried for War Crimes.
- Canada will make sure that any politicians, from any countries, who interfere will be brought before the international courts.
- The only way to prevent this is for the US to pay a 25% subsidy to Canadian imports.
Tariffs, and retaliatory tariffs, only hurt the people.
Go after the politicians and their puppet masters to get results.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 15:50:32 ago (+1/-0)
https://goatmatrix.net/c/Whatever/5GYDUEQfSg
Learn some basic econ. Tariffs are not an economic strategy. The only thing they ever are good for is geo-political pressure. On the economic front they will always hurt both sides. You can't benefit yourself with a Tariff.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 09:32:55 ago (+2/-0)
One can hope that, as a part of any deal, Canada will flush the pajeets out. That should protect children a lot!
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto 3 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 10:12:38 ago (+4/-1)
But most Canadians need propaganda to tell them how to think. You would need media buttering them up first.
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 20:23:27 ago (+0/-0)
I don't think I would care either way. America is something like 50% illiterate though.
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper [op] 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 21:34:41 ago (+0/-0)
All arms and ammo throughout the Caribbean, with the exception of Haiti, are sourced from Cuba, Haiti and Latin America, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama and South America, come from Israel with ancillary support from the CIA and MI6/SCOTLAND YARD...the NARCO regions of Colombia, Ecuador, Peru(Peru is (((central narco base))) controlled by STEPAN INDUSTRIES ) Bolivia is somewhat neutral from kike control of cocaine just because it's a pain in the ass to the jewish drug lords but the jews know how to restrict flow and market access of powder. RIGHT NOW, IN REAL TIME, Haiti is controlled by a half dozen jewish families with the top jew billionaire oligarch (((Gilbert Bigio))), well know as one of the forces of influence that allow for shipments of arms to enter the country from Israel, AND WHY IS HE NOT BEING STOPPED, he's also the lead factor in the 3rd world transient problem, he facilitates the subversive movement of muslum shitskin terrorists and ugly worthless Haitians throughout the West.
I have the facts on the little bit that I've mentioned here with a fuck of a lot more that I haven't mentioned, in fact I did bring a little bit to the attention of Home Land Security, of whom the superintendent for the central north sector was a good acquaintance, he got demoted and shipped to Georgia and I got banned from further entry into the states...and that's when I really turned hard-core against everything...people who think they know how much of a fucking they're taking are still ignorant of how big of a fucking we're taking...I've seen the corruption 1st hand, and, I cannot deny that I was involved in it up to my neck...my red line was the IRANIAN MADE IEDs being packed into America with the migrant terrorists, YEMENI MUJHAHADEEN is also involved...and nobody with authority in America gave 2 fucks about it...SO FUCK IT.
[ + ] ProudRebel
[ - ] ProudRebel 3 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 09:37:14 ago (+3/-0)
LOL I love Canada. Great beer, amazing landscapes and the people are cool too. It's the kikes in charge that should have been hung yesterday exactly like the lower 48. I believe the lesson from Canada is that even small surrenders of gun rights have a huge impact. Those faggots need to be afraid or dead.
[ + ] PORTforceOne
[ - ] PORTforceOne 4 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 11:30:17 ago (+5/-1)
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 15:18:16 ago (+1/-1)
What a nearsighted take. What it does is create opportunities for domestics to compete. Prices of an outsourced thing have to come up, or we can't afford to pay our own guys to make the same thing where our cost of labor is higher. What will happen is domestic manufacturers will continue to expand until your options mirror the older, jewish outsourced options, but without the hidden tax of money permanently leaving your country.
It has to happen or things will continue to get worse, and the pain of the changeover also only gets worse the longer you wait (and the weaker you become, and the less capable you are of recovering, etc).
This, by the way, was the original reason for the half-decade cycle in oil prices. Common folk naively assume that OPEC cares about which jewish stooge wins our election, when it turns out that 4 years is about how long it took a new petro startup to be dangerous. They can't keep prices low forever or they don't make money, and when they raise them, almost immediately new domestic startups appear. Since they completely control the pricing, they just keep prices high overall, while purging the startups every few years.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 2 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 15:55:11 ago (+2/-0)*
Go to school.
Also another fact that all of humanity needs to learn. No country was ever ruined by having a trade deficit. Countries have been ruined by having a trade surplus. In fact if the world was smarter people could realize that's what's happening to China. China has a 996 work culture. 9am to 9pm 6 days a week. They do a lot of manufacture. That is making real goods and not abstract productivity like desk jobs. They have a high degree of automation and cheap raw materials. By all logistical accounts they should have absurd physical abundance. Yet they can't afford anything. The trend is people not being able to get by despite a 996 schedule. Why? The physical product of their labor all ends up here.
We should watch it with these tariffs because we cut ties with China and they keep working the same their economy could boom.
You have a trade deficit with the grocery store. Do you think it would be efficient for you to have to work for the grocery store stocking shelves to have an equal amount earned and spent at the same place, on top of your normal job? No. You can do more effective work for others.
We shouldn't want to sell China anything. There is nothing we are good at that we would want to sell China, unless we want to give them even more technology transfer. A better model is we buy things from China and give them useless paper in exchange for actual good. We do consulting and engineering work for Europe. Europe makes cars that get sold to Russia and Ukraine. China buys grain off of Russia and Ukraine.
Unless you actually want equal trade with China you can do engineering work for China and have them take our jobs even faster.
Remember to think in terms of real value. Jobs aren't valuable. Money is. Money isn't valuable. Goods are. Jobs are two degrees away from what you actually want. Unless you have roves of masses wondering with zero access to work you don't want more work. You actually want less.
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 17:53:00 ago (+1/-0)
Jews argued this for centuries, as they were the original traders between countries, and, as you would expect, this statement lies by omission. The other important metric is the value of those opportunities, and for the country with the higher cost of labor, the value is necessarily lower. There are also arguments to be made about the so-called 'race to the bottom' that inevitably occurs when the relative cost of labor is lopsided between the two trading countries, but I don't have time for that now.
Again, nearsighted. We literally have no idea what we need, and can't figure it out while we also have the confounding problems of H1Bs, infinite illegals, etc.
Remember that jobs linked in a field create careers, and we have a huge problem of gatekeeping the entry level jobs in multiple disparate career paths where the peak pay is high. As the common complaint goes, yes IT can pay very well, but you'll never get started if the entry level positions require a bachelors, 6 years experience, and pay as much as retail. This is, of course, what the race to the bottom looks like.
This doesn't happen in a vacuum. Certain things have to happen first. To know what those are, it helps to know how we got here.
When a country whose average labor cost is X trades with poorer country whose cost is 0.5X, we can expect goods and services to migrate away from the richer country to the poorer country. What happens next is that the labor cost of the richer country then decreases, while the cost of the poorer country increases, until the costs of import/export equal (for the sake of this simplified example) the difference of the cost of labor.
If this can't happen, the industry leaves the richer country forever (textiles, electronics, anything injection molded). If this can happen, then you have a permanently decreased cost of the laborer in the richer country (programmers/CS, most applied scientific disciplines, IT, engineering).
Literally free trade is why the average American finds his purchasing power robbed from him decade over decade.
A tariff increases the costs of import/export, which allows a larger spread between the poorer and richer country. Using the example earlier, if the stabilized labor costs become 0.8X for the richer country, and 0.65X for the poorer country, then we can know that the 0.15X difference in those costs are import/export costs. If the tariffs increase the import cost by 0.2X, then the richer country can sustain the original 1X labor cost it had.
The is the whole reason our country used tariffs going back to the time of its founding. It was protection.
I get paid to tutor math my man. These are basics and I don't understand how people can function as adults without understanding it.
[ + ] Hobama
[ - ] Hobama 1 point 3 monthsFeb 3, 2025 00:43:21 ago (+1/-0)
What we really need is massive deregulation here. A company cant take a shit wihout getting some kind ofa shitting permit.
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 20:36:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 5 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 09:55:28 ago (+5/-0)