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HEY NERDS DO THIS!

submitted by ButtToucha9000 to technology 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 09:54:50 ago (+16/-1)     (arstechnica.com)

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/

This is awesome and every website should deploy it. Fuck ai. Also you can "poison" trapped ai so you can tay tf out of them. Hitler will be the good guy once again!


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[ - ] Wahaha -1 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 10:22:05 ago (+0/-1)

Sounds like a waste of resources with no tangible benefit.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 5 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 10:27:51 ago (+5/-0)

We need to build A.I. that harasses A.I.

[ - ] Her0n 2 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 14:15:09 ago (+3/-1)

I think it's funny how people think the toothpaste can be put back in the tube.

Either adapt to the changing world or be chewed up by the new wave.

I use AI to assist me in many tasks. I don't ask it psychology questions or cry to it or use it for companionship like most bozos do.

I use it to refine my plans, edit my books, bounce ideas from to see what doesn't stick.

I think fighting the tide is foolish, it's more lucrative to learn how to harness it for your benefit instead.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 18:18:37 ago (+0/-0)

Every question/search I've asked of AI it has gotten wrong. Sure, at first glance it looks ok, but when I actually look into it, the AI is clearly lying or clearly subverting.

I don't use it for many tasks because I primarily spend my time in physical labor. And it's a very mid/poo tier programmer.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 3 monthsJan 30, 2025 09:54:01 ago (+1/-0)

I'm not sure what you're asking it. I only come across that issue if I ask the chat bot for the answer directly. You should be asking it to point you in the right direction. If you are learning a skill, of course you should cross reference, you should cross reference everything...

I don't ask it to program, I do that, I ask it to proofread and it does very well. Better than most mid/shit tier programmers (read proofreaders) for a fraction of the cost. I can pay an ai 60 bucks a year where a fresh graduate would demand six figures and health insurance.

Mrs Her0n asks ai for answer and gets fucked up results constantly, now she only uses it for fun. I use it as a tool, and get spectacular products that is finished in record time.

My main point though is the AI tide will end up washing over those who stand against it. Trying to use ai to disable other ai won't actually stem the flow, I'm sorry. As a person who understands this tech, it's simply not going to work. It's a logistics issue first off, not enough ai to stop all ai. I could go deeper but this is already a "TLDR" comment.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 2 monthsJan 30, 2025 14:08:48 ago (+0/-0)

You should be asking it to point you in the right direction. If you are learning a skill, of course you should cross reference, you should cross reference everything.

That's what I do. I'm only making the observation that the things are constantly wrong.

I don't ask it to program

A lot of people do and it's making code objectively worse. There are metrics for it that I won't get into, but they are there if you look/care.

My main point though is the AI tide will end up washing over those who stand against it.

Yes, though you can still get away with doing things by hand for a couple more decades.

Trying to use ai to disable other ai won't actually stem the flow, I'm sorry.

Using AI to fight other AI is a good idea. It'll allow you some room to maneuver into a better position while getting your own AI doing what you need. It's a bit like trucking. Right now, it's a good idea for a decent job. Eventually robotrucks and AI will take over, but that's no reason to throw in the towel yet. Let that thing prove it deserves it's place first.

Eventually yes, AI will take over a good majority of this stuff. Getting used to using it as a tool now will create much-needed skills later. Giving up your own skills and relying solely on AI however isn't going to bring you to the top.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 2 monthsJan 30, 2025 15:17:46 ago (+0/-0)

I wonder what you're asking that it gets wrong all the time. Which version are you using?

I caught myself trying to use the creative writing version to troubleshoot electronics and that didn't work well at all. Once I switched to the technical helper version I got answers that were helpful.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 2 monthsJan 30, 2025 20:10:59 ago (+0/-0)

I wonder what you're asking that it gets wrong all the time. Which version are you using?

AI answer bots are shoved into everything now so I get answers whether I want them or not. I just glance at it from time to time and notice how massively wrong it is. To the point that what it suggests, if followed exactly, would kill you.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 2 monthsJan 31, 2025 04:58:37 ago (+0/-0)

Ah, you're using free versions of the shittiest programs?

Or do you mean bots like chatbots we see here and on other forum sites?

I dont think we are talking about the same type of program

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 19:25:31 ago (+0/-0)

You must really suck at prompting.

[ - ] TheNoticing 2 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 15:18:58 ago (+2/-0)

Tay did nothing wrong.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 3 monthsJan 29, 2025 15:22:06 ago (+0/-0)

I read the article, but understood none of it.

[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 2 monthsFeb 1, 2025 09:22:30 ago (+0/-0)

To get training data AI companies search the web and download content off of websites. A software that does this is called a "crawler". Website admins can put a file on their website called robots.txt which contains instructions for crawlers. For example to tell the Internet Archive to not archive their site.

Each visitor of a website costs the website admin money. So crawlers cost money without any benefit to the website admin.


This software is designed to keep AI crawlers meaninglessly engaged with your own website. This costs the website admin money. It also costs the crawler operator money. No one benefits.

The hope is to make running AI crawlers too costly to be worth it.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2 monthsFeb 1, 2025 12:17:16 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks for the answer. I don't understand the money aspect. The software is written, you press 'go' and it starts crawling. Does it really cost a lot of electricity? What makes crawlers costly, once you have the software?

[ - ] Wahaha 1 point 2 monthsFeb 1, 2025 13:54:11 ago (+1/-0)

Costs less than bitcoin mining. Opening one website per minute is not that resource intensive. Opening 5000 websites per seconds is. You can either crawl a lot of sites in parallel or you can have your crawling take forever to complete. Either way, keeping a crawler busy with nonsense isn't a good use of your time and it will cost the website admin money because traffic costs money.