Every Christian Church in America should hire pay for a birthing doctor that can administer painkillers and have a birthing facility for free for every woman in the congregation for every child they have. Numbers are everything. You want to save your church Ensure your members have free paid for b birthing
People aren't having kids cuz they can't afford to go to the hospital and pay $15,000.
Every Church in America could afford to have a paid for true real doctor not some birthmade not some alternative birthing woman but a real paid for doctor that can administer painkillers like epidurals and every church or they could share a birthing facility which all it is is rooms for women who are about to give birth that can handle any emergency that comes up. Every single Church in America could do this and they all need to start immediately. Women who are members of churches need to know that they can have babies for free. It helps churches it helps Christians it helps White people.
I think they should establish a fund to compensate the taxpayer for lifetime of externalities of every negro, hispanic, jewish, and leftist feminist abortion they prevent through bans and restrictive legislation. If they loved their people as much as they love their political church, this might be a different world.
Why would Christian churches do anything of the sort? If Jesus wants to increase White birthrates, it will happen. Spending money on this is wasting money that Christ-Cucks are supposed to be sending to Israel.
[ - ] carnold03 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 13:40:51 ago (+1/-0)
Women will not willingly surrender access to taxpayer funded government social welfare programs if one of the alternatives is a congregation funded medical clinic in the local church basement.
No my article was crap but so was yours. Some dude’s opinion? Who cares. Is there some data the supports your assertion? Exactly what is the mechanism that makes bonding better when pain is increased? Are there some neurotransmitters at play here? Which ones are they? Is the drug itself interfering with bonding? Or just a lack of pain.
None of that is discussed in your article. Hope you didn’t base your support of this hypothesis on a guardian article with no data. My position is the null hypothesis.
I have herd it from wahmens that gave birth. One of them was a midwife, she explained it all but this was many years ago. There is a reason it is painful, and evolution hasn't done anything about it. Other mammals give birth like spitting on the ground, boom. Wahmens that take painblockers have more post-partum depression, if I recall.
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:31:46 ago (+1/-0)
That specific pain is God's will on her Original Sin, as it is all men's requirement to labour. That is why women go psychothic when they do labour not related to maintaining a home
Blah blah blah, some disgusting big nosed hairy middle eastern polygamists from the Iron age make up a bunch of stories (mostly borrowed from babylonians!) about where people come from and what their jealous elohim wants of them. And you take it literally.
We’ve learned a thing or two about the nature of reality and human life since those absolute degenerate sand niggers told stories about their djinn 3000 years ago. Shitskin fairy stories are not justification for suffering pain unnecessarily. You can fuck right off with that “women need to suffer” shit, right back to the middle eastern hellhole where it came from.
Psychosis is higher in men than in women. In fact you may be suffering from it right now if youre this delusional
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 16:16:52 ago (+1/-0)
See, I just said both women AND men need to suffer, but you are very worried about the specific part that mentions your own side of the deal, and you mention psychosis on MY part.
Why isnt your spouse doing his duty of reminding yourself of your own part in this world? Maybe the shitskins get it right in putting women in their place but get it wrong when it comes to their side of the equation, and its why the modern world hates them, its the direct opposite of each other.
See, I just said both women AND men need to suffer,
No, you said women need to suffer pain and men need to labor. Fact.
Why isnt your spouse doing his duty of reminding yourself of your own part in this world?
Dunno. Why isn’t your spouse reminding you of your part in this world? If she was smart she would, but Ill do it for her.
Big nosed degenerate polygamist sand niggers gained control of the Roman empire through a “woke” revolution. And then they forced your ancestors to worship their volcano god Yahweh, who was just one of the many deities in their pantheon, as is clear from their scriptures. Anyone that refused to join their kooky cult was killed. The empire almost immediately collapsed because of this derranged mind virus. But Rome still had enough power to confer legitamacy to any warlord that subjugated and enslaved new European tribes in the name of Yahweh, if they forced conversion upon them.
So why hasn’t your spouse explained this to you? Is she as stupid as you? Guess its my place in this world to be smart and explain shit to gullible dummies like you. Genesis creation story was invented by Babylonian pagans. It has nothing to do with why birthing a child is painful. But don’t believe me. Go to some sandy shithole and live in a tent with some concubines, eat bug shit off the dessert floor, perform animal sacrifice, live like an iron age savage. Thats what your jealous god wants, right?
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 20:08:25 ago (+1/-0)
No, you said women need to suffer pain and men need to labor. Fact.
Wake the fuck up lady, do you think any man likes working? Adam sinned, so we need to. And his worst sin was not eating the fruit, but lying to God to cover for Eve.
You don't even know my religion to criticize me. Saying there are good sides does not mean they are the one true religion. You may seem a little lost on your thoughts, and that is pretty common after menopause. Dont worry, just go find God in your nearest Latin Mass.
Wake the fuck up lady, do you think any man likes working?
Cope. Too bad youre not honest enough to admit your false strawman argument:
Physical suffering != a job you may or may not like
Fail.
You don't even know my religion to criticize me.
I know you believe in genesis as true. Its fake. I know you believe in original sin doctrine made up by some dude in the 3rd century, also a sandnigger I believe. Also fake. You tried to use this superstitious nonsense to tell me yahweh needs me to be in pain. Well fuck you. Your denomination is irrelevent. Your assertion is predicated on fake and gay shitskin fairytales. Whether you believe in good works or faith alone is irrelevant. Whether you believe in predestination or divorce is irrelevant.
You try to demean me and dismiss my arguments as a woman in the aforementioned camel jockey mumbo jumbo. So fuck you twice.
You may seem a little lost on your thoughts, and that is pretty common after menopause.
This is called bulverism. Ever hear of it? One of yours coined the term. Look it up. None of your ad hominems are pertinent. Physical pain is not the same as having a job. Your attempts to discredit me personally are meant to distract from the fact that you have not refuted any of my challenges to your crap logic. And theyre trashy too.
So you say but you accuse me of being a pagan. Pretty hypocritical.
menopausal shriek.
This is exactly what I mean by trash logic. Dangus level rhetoric. Is this what you get from latin mass? Guess it ain’t workin’. You started this interaction by insulting my femininity and now youre offended and have resorted to naked mud slinging. Why? Because I insulted your beliefs? Respect begets respect. You showed none here therefore you deserved none. Have your spouse remind you of your place in this world maybe.🤷🏻♀️
Good concept, but maybe a better idea would be set up some financial instrument; a trust, a 501(c), etc, that would take care of the out of pocket expenses of birthing mothers. That would eliminate the legal liability, and also keep away the freeloaders. Maybe also impose some kind of membership eligibility (member for year or more,etc).
Good thinking. Could be eligible if your parent was a member for some set time as well. The important thing is that white family members are paying into the coffers to cover younger more fertile members.
And it's not enough. It will never be enough. Though they get free healthcare at the hospital, they'll still swarm each church by the thousands to get more gibs.
It's going to be tough to find one that's legitimate. Standards have fallen dramatically. If you do find one, the church will be very small and unlikely to be able to fund medical procedures, even if they were inclined to.
Whats “legitimate”? An established larger denomination? Every single one of them is based on made up bs. We need to form our own churches— they don’t need to be christian. Theres def enough pro-white people in america to support an organization like this.
No, a much smaller group that might not even have an established building. Once you go beyond a group of people who can speak to each other in a single group, you introduce politics and 'authority'. Then it becomes about marketing and numbers and complying with government regulations.
No, a much smaller group that might not even have an established building.
The amish have managed to avoid politics and authority and marketing etc. by having no buildings and no hierarchies. They just don’t maintain a bureaucracy. Im not sure if a group structured like that could share (medical) resources effectively but maybe they could. I mean, orthodox kikes do it but they are more hierarchical and they definitely have established group property which they seem to be fighting over constantly. (See jews in tunnels)
[ + ] 4thTurning
[ - ] 4thTurning 0 points 3 monthsJan 22, 2025 06:20:41 ago (+0/-0)
You are morons if you think they will ever help you do anything.
[ + ] Puller_of_Noses
[ - ] Puller_of_Noses 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:34:11 ago (+1/-0)
Short, fat mexican invader = free
[ + ] Indoctrinated_USA
[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 17:22:05 ago (+1/-0)
If they loved their people as much as they love their political church, this might be a different world.
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[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 2 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:42:32 ago (+2/-0)
I give homebirth 5 stars. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo -2 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:13:58 ago (+0/-2)*
If Jesus wants to increase White birthrates, it will happen.
Spending money on this is wasting money that Christ-Cucks are supposed to be sending to Israel.
[ + ] carnold03
[ - ] carnold03 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 13:40:51 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:19:33 ago (+1/-0)
Ahem...
Don't allow them the choice.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 13:53:10 ago (+1/-1)
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[ - ] Anus_Expander 3 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 11:56:02 ago (+3/-0)
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 15:39:00 ago (+1/-1)
Why don’t you want to get married? Too much “natural” pain? Its necessary for bonding 🤪
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 15:43:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:20:05 ago (+0/-1)
Why dont you explain to me why you’ll never get married again. Come on. Lets hear it. Is it because you did it before and it was painful?
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:36:08 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:38:47 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:43:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:24:43 ago (+0/-1)
For every Guardian article theres a daily mail article that says the exact opposite.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:35:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 20:16:51 ago (+1/-1)
None of that is discussed in your article. Hope you didn’t base your support of this hypothesis on a guardian article with no data. My position is the null hypothesis.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 22:03:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:31:46 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 15:53:41 ago (+0/-1)
We’ve learned a thing or two about the nature of reality and human life since those absolute degenerate sand niggers told stories about their djinn 3000 years ago. Shitskin fairy stories are not justification for suffering pain unnecessarily. You can fuck right off with that “women need to suffer” shit, right back to the middle eastern hellhole where it came from.
Psychosis is higher in men than in women. In fact you may be suffering from it right now if youre this delusional
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 16:16:52 ago (+1/-0)
Why isnt your spouse doing his duty of reminding yourself of your own part in this world? Maybe the shitskins get it right in putting women in their place but get it wrong when it comes to their side of the equation, and its why the modern world hates them, its the direct opposite of each other.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 18:17:34 ago (+0/-1)
No, you said women need to suffer pain and men need to labor. Fact.
Dunno. Why isn’t your spouse reminding you of your part in this world? If she was smart she would, but Ill do it for her.
Big nosed degenerate polygamist sand niggers gained control of the Roman empire through a “woke” revolution. And then they forced your ancestors to worship their volcano god Yahweh, who was just one of the many deities in their pantheon, as is clear from their scriptures. Anyone that refused to join their kooky cult was killed. The empire almost immediately collapsed because of this derranged mind virus. But Rome still had enough power to confer legitamacy to any warlord that subjugated and enslaved new European tribes in the name of Yahweh, if they forced conversion upon them.
So why hasn’t your spouse explained this to you? Is she as stupid as you? Guess its my place in this world to be smart and explain shit to gullible dummies like you. Genesis creation story was invented by Babylonian pagans. It has nothing to do with why birthing a child is painful. But don’t believe me. Go to some sandy shithole and live in a tent with some concubines, eat bug shit off the dessert floor, perform animal sacrifice, live like an iron age savage. Thats what your jealous god wants, right?
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 20:08:25 ago (+1/-0)
Wake the fuck up lady, do you think any man likes working? Adam sinned, so we need to. And his worst sin was not eating the fruit, but lying to God to cover for Eve.
You don't even know my religion to criticize me. Saying there are good sides does not mean they are the one true religion. You may seem a little lost on your thoughts, and that is pretty common after menopause. Dont worry, just go find God in your nearest Latin Mass.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 21:54:36 ago (+0/-0)
Cope. Too bad youre not honest enough to admit your false strawman argument:
Fail.
I know you believe in genesis as true. Its fake. I know you believe in original sin doctrine made up by some dude in the 3rd century, also a sandnigger I believe. Also fake. You tried to use this superstitious nonsense to tell me yahweh needs me to be in pain. Well fuck you. Your denomination is irrelevent. Your assertion is predicated on fake and gay shitskin fairytales. Whether you believe in good works or faith alone is irrelevant. Whether you believe in predestination or divorce is irrelevant.
You try to demean me and dismiss my arguments as a woman in the aforementioned camel jockey mumbo jumbo. So fuck you twice.
This is called bulverism. Ever hear of it? One of yours coined the term. Look it up. None of your ad hominems are pertinent. Physical pain is not the same as having a job. Your attempts to discredit me personally are meant to distract from the fact that you have not refuted any of my challenges to your crap logic. And theyre trashy too.
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 3 monthsJan 22, 2025 07:56:58 ago (+0/-0)
Says the pagan menopausal shriek.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 monthsJan 22, 2025 13:04:48 ago (+0/-0)
So you say but you accuse me of being a pagan. Pretty hypocritical.
This is exactly what I mean by trash logic. Dangus level rhetoric. Is this what you get from latin mass? Guess it ain’t workin’. You started this interaction by insulting my femininity and now youre offended and have resorted to naked mud slinging. Why? Because I insulted your beliefs? Respect begets respect. You showed none here therefore you deserved none. Have your spouse remind you of your place in this world maybe.🤷🏻♀️
[ + ] Bonanza
[ - ] Bonanza 5 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 11:14:49 ago (+5/-0)
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 4 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 10:15:59 ago (+5/-1)
Also, in the current (((legal environment))) can they handle the exposure to lawsuits when births go sideways?
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[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 3 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:50:03 ago (+3/-0)
It's going to be tough to find one that's legitimate. Standards have fallen dramatically. If you do find one, the church will be very small and unlikely to be able to fund medical procedures, even if they were inclined to.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3 monthsJan 22, 2025 13:41:39 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 3 monthsJan 22, 2025 16:22:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 monthsJan 22, 2025 16:29:53 ago (+0/-0)
The amish have managed to avoid politics and authority and marketing etc. by having no buildings and no hierarchies. They just don’t maintain a bureaucracy. Im not sure if a group structured like that could share (medical) resources effectively but maybe they could. I mean, orthodox kikes do it but they are more hierarchical and they definitely have established group property which they seem to be fighting over constantly. (See jews in tunnels)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 10:13:14 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2025 14:18:22 ago (+1/-1)
It's worth sacrificing a church to kill a Nigglet.