lol I started to watch, but just no. Lately my observation is, that English language just don't go together with Catholic church. Honestly, I'm catholic, in this places where I am, we always been form the start. But I'm just every time amazed what all sorts of biases is coming from English speaking texts. I guess this mess is political and piling for centuries, it is like a Coca-cola Santa Claus coming out from Saint Nicholas, one can't even know where to start to fix it, if it's even worth it.
catholicism is a cannibalistic death cult that practices idol worship and vampirism. God does not reside in a catholic... There's no love in them. I've yet to read where Jesus demands someone must die for not following him. Just look at how catholics acted in the Caribbean, South America and Mexico. Also, remember the first crusade and those Cathars? That was in France... I could go on and on.
#1) Gigantic gaping hole inside #2) Desire to fill it with blasphemy #3) I get to keep all my lusts and just say a hail mary! #4) I always wanted an earthly god I can call father! #5) Dunking babies under water! #6) Jesus wafers! #7) Wine, baby! #8) Sweet dresses for the priests. #9) Pagan tradition of the dagon hats #10) Incense burned to the Queen of Heaven!
Jesus wafers are my favorite. I'd suggest you read John chapter 6.
Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.
I'll give you a few more verses from that same chapter which indicate that you don't know what you're saying because you don't have the spirit.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
He is the Word of God, the Bread from Heaven; I.E. The bread we are to ask for daily (Matthew 6:11), that we may eat of it and live thereby. His blood is the Holy Spirit, which we are to listen to and who dwells in us (believers, not pagans).
You literally sound like the Pharisees who said
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
Well, you are wrong and are playing games with interpretation. I'll say again that you reserve the right of personal interpretation, so long as people only accept your interpretation, which is exactly what protestants claim the Catholic Church does. John chapter 6 is very clear, and using other verses to try and redefine the words of Jesus to suit your liking isn't appropriate.
this is why I don't like to get involved in these discussions. They always devolve into confrontational, accusational, aggressive arguments. I don't need to "refute" any scriptures, what I think you mean to say is that I need to refute your interpretation of those scriptures. The problem that both @isnark and myself have, is not that we can't defend our faith, but that you are so steadfast in your erroneous, heretical interpretation of scripture that it really isn't worth the effort. That and the fact that I have very little time to outside of my family and work to post incessantly here on the interwebs.
There seems to be this Pseudo-Intellectualism that exists here on this forum with some of the younger posters. Where the dumbest of people, use these verbal gamesmanship tactics, to try to win their arguments that have no legs! They're argumentative Bastards! Tell them the sun is hot, and they'll try and twist the facts of the Universe to argue and convince you that it isn't! And it's not just limited to matters of Faith either...
It's one thing to "Know of" Scripture, and quite another thing to fully understand Scripture! You have a loose grasp of knowledge of passages, but you are hopelessly and woefully ignorant as to the context of those words! You have been improperly formed, because of your affiliation with those, who, like you, are improperly instructed in the Faith, and they wear their ignorance and arrogance on their sleeve, just like You! You will understand nothing of what Jesus taught us, UNTIL and UNLESS, you adopt a spirit of pure humility!
And the problem that you have, is that you're Blind, Deaf, & Dumb concerning the Faith! You've been formed by ignorant and unlearned men, who themselves have been poorly formed! It's a generational curse that you've inherited! Leave that den of confusion and iniquity that is protestantism, and join the Church that Christ himself founded! You are outside of the Church! I'm throwing you a line-line! GRAB IT!
If you were invincibly ignorant, and had neither read the scriptures, nor seen my miracles, you would not be guilty of the sin of infidelity: but now, as you boast of your knowledge of the scriptures, you are inexcusable.
THIS IS A CONVICTION OF YOU! GAME OVER PROT! YOU LOST!
You're a fucking retard! You learned ONE word: syncretism and you wear it out! You are in a false church! You "church" is equivalent of crappy Chinese produced products! Why DO you CLEAVE to such falsehoods? You very "bible" was written by an adulterer! Are YOU really this Stupid! Look in the mirror, and try to convince yourself, that you're not stupid!
[ + ] snowpeach
[ - ] snowpeach 0 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 17:47:21 ago (+0/-0)
Lately my observation is, that English language just don't go together with Catholic church. Honestly, I'm catholic, in this places where I am, we always been form the start. But I'm just every time amazed what all sorts of biases is coming from English speaking texts. I guess this mess is political and piling for centuries, it is like a Coca-cola Santa Claus coming out from Saint Nicholas, one can't even know where to start to fix it, if it's even worth it.
[ + ] inaminit
[ - ] inaminit 2 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:40:10 ago (+4/-2)*
I've yet to read where Jesus demands someone must die for not following him. Just look at how catholics acted in the Caribbean, South America and Mexico.
Also, remember the first crusade and those Cathars? That was in France... I could go on and on.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 18:40:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:14:38 ago (+3/-1)
#2) Desire to fill it with blasphemy
#3) I get to keep all my lusts and just say a hail mary!
#4) I always wanted an earthly god I can call father!
#5) Dunking babies under water!
#6) Jesus wafers!
#7) Wine, baby!
#8) Sweet dresses for the priests.
#9) Pagan tradition of the dagon hats
#10) Incense burned to the Queen of Heaven!
Now let's see your 10 reasons, gud-goy!
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 1 point 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:21:40 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%206&version=NIV
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:31:28 ago (+3/-1)
Read John 6 in the English speaker's Bible, the King James Version.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%206&version=KJV
At the risk of pearls before swine;
I'll give you a few more verses from that same chapter which indicate that you don't know what you're saying because you don't have the spirit.
He is the Word of God, the Bread from Heaven; I.E. The bread we are to ask for daily (Matthew 6:11), that we may eat of it and live thereby. His blood is the Holy Spirit, which we are to listen to and who dwells in us (believers, not pagans).
You literally sound like the Pharisees who said
You wrest the scripture to your own damnation.
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 -1 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 16:17:07 ago (+1/-2)
John chapter 6 is very clear, and using other verses to try and redefine the words of Jesus to suit your liking isn't appropriate.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 16:24:08 ago (+1/-1)
Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14, Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46, 11:26, 15:28, Luke 17:36, John 5:4, Acts 8:37, 15:34, 24:7, 28:29, Romans 16:24, 1 John 5:7.
Sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you over how right I am; I didn't see you refute any of the scriptures quoted...
Yes, John 6 is very clear, that Jesus is speaking spiritually, because as he said, his words are spirit and they are truth.
The Bible defines itself. Learn that.
Now repent of the blasphemous idolatry of the RCC and believe in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation.
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 -1 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 07:24:33 ago (+1/-2)
I don't need to "refute" any scriptures, what I think you mean to say is that I need to refute your interpretation of those scriptures. The problem that both @isnark and myself have, is not that we can't defend our faith, but that you are so steadfast in your erroneous, heretical interpretation of scripture that it really isn't worth the effort. That and the fact that I have very little time to outside of my family and work to post incessantly here on the interwebs.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 12:02:21 ago (+1/-1)
There seems to be this Pseudo-Intellectualism that exists here on this forum with some of the younger posters. Where the dumbest of people, use these verbal gamesmanship tactics, to try to win their arguments that have no legs! They're argumentative Bastards! Tell them the sun is hot, and they'll try and twist the facts of the Universe to argue and convince you that it isn't! And it's not just limited to matters of Faith either...
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 12:47:10 ago (+1/-0)
You don't even know scripture.
You get continuously blown out by speaking against it, because you know not what you speak.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 18:21:34 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 21:24:58 ago (+0/-0)
This isn't about me, it's about the Word of God and your unbelief.
Repent and believe in the Word of God, Jesus Christ, alone for your salvation, or burn.
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 -1 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 13:26:30 ago (+0/-1)
Here is the deal, these "discussions" never succeed in converting anyone, and only serve two purposes:
1. Inflation of ones pride.
2. Division.
There is no need to sow division among Christian brothers, so I (mostly) refrain from engaging in these types of discussions.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 13:34:24 ago (+1/-0)*
You clearly ignored the very chapter you were quoting so you could make your own 'it's literally the flesh' claim.
It's literally not. Jesus literally told us in the very same chapter he was speaking spiritually and his words are truth.
YOU DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS' WORDS.
Plain and simple.
GOOD.
You pagans are not Christians, and I'm going to make sure you and anyone who reads your pagan traditions and rationalizations know it.
You deserve to be shamed for your worship of a woman you call queen of heaven and a man you call father.
Absolutely disgusting! An abomination!
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 12:06:55 ago (+1/-1)
No, the problem you and iSnark have is that you do not believe in the Word of God, you believe the traditions of men.
You are reprobate concerning the faith.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 21:39:03 ago (+0/-0)
@AugustineOfHippo2
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 21:42:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 5 monthsDec 18, 2024 21:48:24 ago (+0/-0)
THIS IS A CONVICTION OF YOU! GAME OVER PROT! YOU LOST!
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] -1 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:20:28 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:23:52 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] -1 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:32:15 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:39:28 ago (+2/-0)
There we have it, ladies and gentlemen, Catholicism in the flesh!
Project, deny, persecute!
Absolutely no ability to defend 'the faith', because they never had the faith.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 15:25:53 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 15:31:48 ago (+1/-0)
Who knows the heart of a man beside the man and the Spirit.
I just know out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
[ + ] inaminit
[ - ] inaminit 2 points 5 monthsDec 17, 2024 14:45:48 ago (+2/-0)