I can imagine portrait painters kicking over camera tripods when photography starting taking off. I lived through film photographers shitting all over digital cameras when they started taking off. There's always going to be lunatics being lunatics over emerging forms of technology and techniques.
I'm guessing most of these people can't create anything on par with or better than what the AI can do now, and that drives them batshit crazy. If you've got talent, you don't really have to worry too much about AI taking your job. Yet.
[ - ] Trope 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 22:22:14 ago (+1/-0)
I have been meaning to write a horror screenplay for a long time. I’d love to be able to write it cooperatively with a friend and have even been considering asking AI for common tropes to help me come up with ideas.
I’d never let it write the shit for me but I wouldn’t mind external input when it comes to the brainstorming process.
I have been meaning to write a horror screenplay for a long time. I’d love to be able to write it cooperatively with a friend and have even been considering asking AI for common tropes to help me come up with ideas.
its literally fucking perfect for that. finding common tropes, doing batches of research for you, acting as a sounding board to bounce ideas off of, etc
I have a personal interest in this. I've written a book second draft is done doing editing now. I think I am going to avoid using ai even though it is better. I will self publish my book as all human errors and all.
I think this will have value in the future. If I had the money I'd hire a legit editor but a small editing company wanted 7500 I just don't have the capitol right now or I would
I use it constantly (software developer). My advice is to start using it ASAP. At least in terms of coding I am doing things I never could have before. Though there are trade offs, it's definitely worth it. No going back for me.
I think this will have value in the future. If I had the money I'd hire a legit editor but a small editing company wanted 7500 I just don't have the capitol right now or I would
that's the big hurdle yes. the robot to fix your grammar is free. like it or not that is the case
If you don't use some type of ai as a personal assistant by now, you are left behind.
Most people are bozos and use it as a therapist, like that nigger what killed itself.
I use it to teach me new skills, break down information in understandable explanations. It helps me proof read and create my programs, my dnd afldventures/world/homebrew rules.
I'm learning how to code better, teaching myself how these new robots are controlled and programmed. I'm using it now to get better in every way imaginable. It's currently helping self-publish my homebrew rules so other people can use an old mechanic in a new way, suited for 5e rules.
Don't be a dingus and let yourself fall behind. This thing helps me stay on budget, personally and with my business.
It's not linked to any accounts, I opt to give it a picture of my books and it does the rest automatically.
Fuck everyone here who doesn't use this tool, the jews already have you by the balls, get some kind of benefit from it.
Musicians in studios today use all kinds of automatic composition things to write the songs that are the hit songs. Musicians of 30 years ago would have said that was cheating. The guy says the right or community will be mad at him! The writer community will be replaced by people like him. They'll be the bitter old farts sitting around saying how the younger generation just isn't any good while the younger generations uses AI to write incredible novels in this brief window of time before everyone realizes they never need to read anyone else's novel ever again because they can get AI to write them a complete novel in 5 minutes describing exactly whatever scenario they want and so they don't ever need to read anybody else's AI novel ever. But during this brief window of time of the next year or two or three people can write novels with AI and sell them to other people who don't realize they can write their own novels now.
Same thing happened with music; synthesizers with arpeggiators, drum machines, loop pedals, auto-harmonizers - all leading to the rise of the DJ; overglorified knob turners with zero to a bare minimum of musical talent that play pre-recorded ideas really CAN sound just as good as most musicians struggling to play something rehearsed for weeks simply because a bass beat is quantized. Most people just want to tap their toes while talking to their friends and flirting with strangers and getting drunk and high in public places. People were doing just that when attending Liszt concerts. But damn has the value of culture gone to shit; we’ve already been living in an AI trashland for more than 40 years.
This “writer” should see the writing on the wall and maybe start writing about (((things that AI is programmed not to allow))).
This is a pretty cool comparison, I like it. I wasn't alive when music started trending towards becoming all electric, but I can imagine there were a lot of musicians who were worried about not being able to perform anymore after a good drum machine came into use. It's the same sort of fear people have of robots taking their manual labor jobs.
Here's the thing, though: Are drummers still in almost every single band there is, even if they use drum machines in some of their songs? Yes. Are there still guitarists and bassists, even though a keyboard can closely mimic most of their sounds? Yes. Things did change, but musicians ADAPTED and began to make use of all this cool, new stuff.
Instead of bitching about change like this, you should be PREPARING YOURSELF to have a head start on the new shit.
Things did change, but musicians ADAPTED and began to make use of all this cool, new stuff.
Yes, exactly. That, and a good musician could mimic the arpeggiator and other AI sounding stuff to great effect. But it’s still pathetic to see that the kids bobbing their heads and dancing behind their laptops know their new clothing and even the chains around their necks alone attracts more attention than a sincere classical guitar interlude.
I understand the frustration, but here's the truth, and it is as sure as that the sun will rise in the morning:
Whatever the capacities of AI are, that's the new bar for 'good' and 'acceptable'. If you want to be great, you'll have to write better than that. If nobody on earth can write better than AI can, then your creativity in writing is no longer profitable.
That's all there is to it. It's the same for all creative endeavors.
It is going to raise the bar. If you can't 'outwrite' AI, or there isn't a market for non-AI stories any longer, bitching about it isn't going to help. The cat is out of the bag, and it isn't going back in.
Write better and write more interesting things. As long as people are buying books, there will be a market for good stories. There will also be a market for human authors if AI ever becomes ubiquitous. What she is really worried about is that her brother might surpass her in recognition at a younger age with less years invested.
I use ChatGPT regularly, and I routinely have to correct it. It is no Shakespeare.
There are so many authors that write at an elementary school level- personally, I welcome the challenge of AI, because I know I am a superior writer to most of mankind, at the present. I don't fear the complications AI will bring, and if it becomes an acceptable tool to use, I will use it. Only a fool does not make use of the tools available to them- as long as you are honest about it, your readers won't care.
Only other writers who don't perform as well as you will bitch about you using a tool to assist you. And guess what- they aren't the people who buy your books. They're your competition- pissing them off means you're doing something right.
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 12:26:46 ago (+2/-1)
Totally. Writers who are comfortable with their skills will see this as a welcome challenge. If AI really beats them, then so be it. Just as long as AI isn't part of an Idiocracy future where people can't even discern writing.
Yes, the "cheating" argument is dumb. Writing isn't like some sport where everyone is competing for a prize, it's to produce something people enjoy reading. Did this guy claim that people using digital tools for graphics were cheating because they weren't drawing it all by hand on paper? That said, using AI as a writer seems like a great way to become a poor writer, and become a mere AI operator. Might work, but if you liked writing it's going to take that away. For advertising and other things? Sure, it's not like anyone enjoys reading advertising anyway.
AI has some enriching benefits, like another source for brainstorming. It could even be useful for rewriting your work, you then reading it and taking in what you like about it, then throwing that out and using the insight to change how you write. Imagine being able to have quick rewrites in many styles, or changes with having less detail, etc. to get an idea of what that might look like.
Well the good thing is, there is no way an AI could writte books like the Diaries or DOTR. On the flip side the same reasons that nerf AI from writting "rightwing stuff" will be used to put out lefty slop writters out of commission as AI will deliever slob that is uptodate with the very currrent line much faster.
the real reason for all the remakes and reboots and nostaglia baiting is to update unforgettable pieces of our culture with the modern day party-approved politically correct paradigm.
im in a writing community too with real published authors, that i bullshit and assist daily with.
AI is 100% used as a tool within them by some of those authors, and i have no idea what this bitch is smoking.
the kicker that's hilarious to me is, she COULD help him and thus make sure he doesnt need the AI. she literally chooses not to, thus making herself obsolete of her voluntary will
I don't think female writers will be able to keep up once AI assistance is a typical tool of most writers. Women can barely write as it is, I imagine they will be EXTREMELY dependent on AI in order to remain competitive.
Then, you have the writers that are barely literate and churn out loads of bullshit written at a fifth-grade level- once those assholes start using AI, it'll be very obvious to anyone who reads it that it was plagiarized. I am certain there will be some "markers" of AI usage in writing, and you're going to see it all over journalists' "articles" and shitty authors' material. A talented author would be able to sort of "smooth out" any strange shit that the AI comes up with.
[ + ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior
[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 1 point 4 monthsDec 15, 2024 05:16:32 ago (+1/-0)
I'm guessing most of these people can't create anything on par with or better than what the AI can do now, and that drives them batshit crazy. If you've got talent, you don't really have to worry too much about AI taking your job. Yet.
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 22:22:14 ago (+1/-0)
I’d never let it write the shit for me but I wouldn’t mind external input when it comes to the brainstorming process.
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones [op] 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 22:37:16 ago (+0/-0)
its literally fucking perfect for that. finding common tropes, doing batches of research for you, acting as a sounding board to bounce ideas off of, etc
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 16:17:06 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] titstitstits
[ - ] titstitstits 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 15:53:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 15:32:04 ago (+1/-0)
I think this will have value in the future. If I had the money I'd hire a legit editor but a small editing company wanted 7500 I just don't have the capitol right now or I would
[ + ] titstitstits
[ - ] titstitstits 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 15:55:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones [op] 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 20:26:46 ago (+0/-0)
that's the big hurdle yes. the robot to fix your grammar is free. like it or not that is the case
[ + ] Rob3122
[ - ] Rob3122 -1 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 15:31:55 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 2 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 15:08:13 ago (+2/-0)
Most people are bozos and use it as a therapist, like that nigger what killed itself.
I use it to teach me new skills, break down information in understandable explanations. It helps me proof read and create my programs, my dnd afldventures/world/homebrew rules.
I'm learning how to code better, teaching myself how these new robots are controlled and programmed. I'm using it now to get better in every way imaginable. It's currently helping self-publish my homebrew rules so other people can use an old mechanic in a new way, suited for 5e rules.
Don't be a dingus and let yourself fall behind. This thing helps me stay on budget, personally and with my business.
It's not linked to any accounts, I opt to give it a picture of my books and it does the rest automatically.
Fuck everyone here who doesn't use this tool, the jews already have you by the balls, get some kind of benefit from it.
Bozo
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 12:39:04 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:14:23 ago (+1/-1)
because they didnt have the luxury of having the latest toys to simplify their jobs, they think that others shouldnt have access to it, either.
The left, too, are obstacles to progress.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 4 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:07:44 ago (+4/-0)
This “writer” should see the writing on the wall and maybe start writing about (((things that AI is programmed not to allow))).
[ + ] BloodyComet
[ - ] BloodyComet 2 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:30:49 ago (+2/-0)
Here's the thing, though: Are drummers still in almost every single band there is, even if they use drum machines in some of their songs? Yes. Are there still guitarists and bassists, even though a keyboard can closely mimic most of their sounds? Yes. Things did change, but musicians ADAPTED and began to make use of all this cool, new stuff.
Instead of bitching about change like this, you should be PREPARING YOURSELF to have a head start on the new shit.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:52:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] RedBarchetta
[ - ] RedBarchetta 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 10:23:26 ago (+2/-1)
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 09:47:59 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 5 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:16:23 ago (+5/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 20:14:35 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 6 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 09:15:29 ago (+7/-1)
Whatever the capacities of AI are, that's the new bar for 'good' and 'acceptable'. If you want to be great, you'll have to write better than that. If nobody on earth can write better than AI can, then your creativity in writing is no longer profitable.
That's all there is to it. It's the same for all creative endeavors.
It is going to raise the bar. If you can't 'outwrite' AI, or there isn't a market for non-AI stories any longer, bitching about it isn't going to help. The cat is out of the bag, and it isn't going back in.
Write better and write more interesting things. As long as people are buying books, there will be a market for good stories. There will also be a market for human authors if AI ever becomes ubiquitous. What she is really worried about is that her brother might surpass her in recognition at a younger age with less years invested.
I use ChatGPT regularly, and I routinely have to correct it. It is no Shakespeare.
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 12:46:42 ago (+4/-1)
I mean, if that day comes you could always write about things that the AI is lobotomized from even mentioning.
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 2 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 09:28:39 ago (+3/-1)
This. If you don't harness AI into your creative process you will be left behind.
[ + ] BloodyComet
[ - ] BloodyComet 2 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:24:08 ago (+3/-1)
Only other writers who don't perform as well as you will bitch about you using a tool to assist you. And guess what- they aren't the people who buy your books. They're your competition- pissing them off means you're doing something right.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 12:26:46 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie -1 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 12:25:18 ago (+1/-2)
AI has some enriching benefits, like another source for brainstorming. It could even be useful for rewriting your work, you then reading it and taking in what you like about it, then throwing that out and using the insight to change how you write. Imagine being able to have quick rewrites in many styles, or changes with having less detail, etc. to get an idea of what that might look like.
[ + ] HotBakedDinuMuffinSaint
[ - ] HotBakedDinuMuffinSaint 4 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 08:46:26 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] HeavyBrain
[ - ] HeavyBrain 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 08:31:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:19:06 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] HeavyBrain
[ - ] HeavyBrain 1 point 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 17:33:19 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DitchPig
[ - ] DitchPig 5 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 08:30:38 ago (+5/-0)
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones [op] 2 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 08:44:49 ago (+3/-1)
AI is 100% used as a tool within them by some of those authors, and i have no idea what this bitch is smoking.
the kicker that's hilarious to me is, she COULD help him and thus make sure he doesnt need the AI. she literally chooses not to, thus making herself obsolete of her voluntary will
[ + ] AntiPostmodernist
[ - ] AntiPostmodernist -1 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:15:33 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] BloodyComet
[ - ] BloodyComet -1 points 4 monthsDec 14, 2024 11:27:39 ago (+0/-1)
Then, you have the writers that are barely literate and churn out loads of bullshit written at a fifth-grade level- once those assholes start using AI, it'll be very obvious to anyone who reads it that it was plagiarized. I am certain there will be some "markers" of AI usage in writing, and you're going to see it all over journalists' "articles" and shitty authors' material. A talented author would be able to sort of "smooth out" any strange shit that the AI comes up with.