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‘Let my immigrants stay’: US farm groups ask Trump to leave their ‘illegal’ workers alone

submitted by anon to askanon 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:40:05 ago (+1/-1)     (www.dailykos.com)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/25/2288676/-Let-my-immigrants-stay-US-farm-groups-ask-Trump-to-leave-their-illegal-workers-alone?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

Are Farmers part of the problem! Fuck those farmers that beg for Illegal Aliens! America has a Youth class, separate them from their game consoles, and get their asses out into the fields! THAT's what America needs to put an end to all this Homosexuality and pronouns BUllSHIT! Also, Why aren't prisoners being sent out into the fields under armed supervision to work the land as part of their rehabilitation!


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[ - ] Portmanure -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:46:19 ago (+0/-1)

Once the borders are under control, a guest worker program would solve their problem. Sure, it’ll cost a little more and their massive profits may be reduced a bit (for factory farms and their greedy share holders.) but it will work out in the end for everybody alike if they would just follow the rules and stop breaking the law.

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:59:17 ago (+0/-0)

We don't need "guest workers"! We need the Yooths, to get off their got-damn game counsels, and get their candy-asses out into the fields! I was 13 years old when I was working with the old man on weekends and summers in Concrete, Plaster, & Drywall, did it from 13 through 19 years of age! Worked around old-school Italians, Germans, & Irish! I wasn't tied to my Mothers apron strings! What I did back then would be considered "Child Endangerment" today! We're TOO soft on the Youth!

[ - ] anon 1730224 -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:02:20 ago (+0/-1)*

Why do you hate the youth having something to do with their lives? we aren't meant to spend every waking hour working.

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:28:58 ago (+0/-0)

We both agree that the Yooths need something to do with their lives, where we disagree, is WHAT they DO with their lives. Fucking around on a game console 24/7 leads down an empty path! Look up the 1930s Works Progress Administration program (WPA)

[ - ] anon 1730224 -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:54:44 ago (+0/-1)

Spending 16 hours a day working leads to mass killings and suicide.

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:18:55 ago (+0/-0)

Who said that the workers of today need to work 16 hours? Are you familiar with the concept of "Shifts"? AND, also, end corporate farming in favor of smaller more manageable farms! Have more smaller farms, that serve local communities.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:25:28 ago (+1/-0)

its a self entitled 12 year old faggot moving the bars to give the impression they agree people should work.

faggot thinks 'government money' is free and comes from the ether.

faggot needs a job.

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:21:51 ago (+0/-0)

Who said that the workers of today need to work 16 hours? Are you familiar with the concept of "Shifts"?

Your specific demand was that school kids are forced into work after 8 hours of school and a targeted 2-4 hours of homework, since farm work is highly time sensitive I can only imagine you'd also expect at least a a reasonably long shift, it's not hard to reach 16 hours of work when the starting point before additional work is forced is already 10 hours.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:24:43 ago (+0/-0)

no, mental illness leads to mass killings and suicide.

work. does not.

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:11:50 ago (+0/-0)

It's not a mental illness to seek retribution for wrong doing done to you, if it's all of society forcing you to suffer than all of society is to blame.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:24:19 ago (+0/-0)

get a job faggot. stop sucking up taxpayer money.

'we arent meant to spend every waking hour working'

no ones claiming you are, what youre claiming is that you shouldnt have to do a fucking thing.

and you can jam that shit up your arse. you are the reason why the welfare system needs to be abolished and people need to starve for a bit.

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:13:57 ago (+0/-0)

no ones claiming you are, what youre claiming is that you shouldnt have to do a fucking thing.

You're advocating for forcing after school work. you're suggesting that people shouldn't be allowed to have time for anything except working and preparing to work more.

and you can jam that shit up your arse. you are the reason why the welfare system needs to be abolished and people need to starve for a bit.

So working class men are forced into prison just to survive when they lose their jobs and are unable to find new employment? sounds like a great idea that won't lead to a massive spike in murders and suicide.

[ - ] anon 1730224 -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:01:57 ago (+0/-1)

The youth dont need to have everything that makes their shitty lives worth living taken from them, the US over produces food if nothing was being exported there would be plenty of white workers to do the job.

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:23:16 ago (+0/-0)

Wrong again Wojack! For the Yooths, It's about developing a work ethic, and understanding the value of work! Kids get shoved though the system without getting any marketable skill, AND, without learning Masculinity!

This is why we have SO MANY homosexual soy-boys out there wanting to cut their dicks off! This is WHY there is so much bullshit "gender confusion"! I'm glad I grew up during a time when, boys policed each other at the schools and ball fields, by testing you, and calling you an outright Faggot, when you deserved it!

We were allowed to fight, nobody stopped it! I was a smaller boy compared to all of my classmates, but I'll tell you what, going to work with the old man and being around the Germans, Italians, & Irish, toughened me up. When I hit middle school, those that ate my lunch in grade school learned not to fuck with me...

There is a difference between boys raised by a woman or a feminine "man", and those raised by actual men!

[ - ] anon 1730224 -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:56:35 ago (+0/-1)

Repetitive manual labor isn't a marketable skill and ending up crippled due to working inhumanely long hours and living without proper sleep ruins the ability to get a job any more, the idea of school and work is downright insane and should be criminal to even sugggest, why not lower the amount of years spend in school so they can be shuffled into the work force and marriage at a younger age?

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:20:23 ago (+1/-0)

doing a fucking job rather than sitting on your ass collecting welfare should be mandatory.

'repetetive manual labour blah blah blah'

its a fucking job. if your spastic ass thinks you deserve a managers job straight out of university when you know literally fuck all about the world (because all you know is the retarded liberal bullshit that youve been indoctrinated on) then you might just have an entitlement issue.

"Not a marketable skill"

So heres what im looking at at a resume.... 'i worked minimum wage for 3 years picking apples now id like a new job' vs 'i did fucking nothing but collect dole cheques for 3 years and now im bored' - im not hiring your lazy neet fucking ass im hiring the guy thats told me he is capable of taking instruction and doing a shitty job for an extended period of time.

holy shit gen z are a pack of entitled fucking braindead little faggots.

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:16:58 ago (+0/-0)

doing a fucking job rather than sitting on your ass collecting welfare should be mandatory.

Jobs are rare and hard to get, if anything welfare needs to be made more accessible not less. Just surviving on an entry level job is difficult.

its a fucking job. if your spastic ass thinks you deserve a managers job straight out of university when you know literally fuck all about the world

Look at you assuming I went to university. If I did I'd probably be dead or in prison thanks to debt.

So heres what im looking at at a resume.... 'i worked minimum wage for 3 years picking apples now id like a new job' vs 'i did fucking nothing but collect dole cheques for 3 years and now im bored' - im not hiring your lazy neet fucking ass im hiring the guy thats told me he is capable of taking instruction and doing a shitty job for an extended period of time.

And how does that justify forcing inhumane working conditions on school kids?

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:13:46 ago (+0/-0)

Your premises are all wrong!

- Repetitive manual labor isn't a marketable skill

Think about what you posted when your furnace craps-out on the coldest day of the year, or your car stops running, and, when your roof leaks. America AND Americans, should be self-sufficient! Would you argue that paramedics are "non-marketable" jobs? And Oh, sportsball players ARE "marketable" jobs! Get your head out of your ass man!

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:25:52 ago (+0/-0)

Think about what you posted when your furnace craps-out on the coldest day of the year, or your car stops running, and, when your roof leaks. America AND Americans, should be self-sufficient!

Well when any of that happens I wouldn't be hiring someone who's only experienced in taking fruit from a bush and putting it into buckets.

Would you argue that paramedics are "non-marketable" jobs?

Yes because their experience is only relevant in one small sector of business.

And Oh, sportsball players ARE "marketable" jobs! Get your head out of your ass man!

Nope, they're subuhman parasites who should have their wealth confiscated and be worked to death for their refusal to contribute to society

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:47:46 ago (+0/-0)

Well when any of that happens I wouldn't be hiring someone who's only experienced in taking fruit from a bush and putting it into buckets.

Ok, but, what you fail to see is that those teens picking fruit & vegetables in the fields today will become your Furnace Repairmen and Roofers of tomorrow. You're getting them accustomed to learning how work and deal with people as they work on farms. Think of it as a summer conscription designed to get their asses away from meaningless endeavors like xBox, and making them productive Citizens. Then when they do go back to school, they can become more focused an responsible.

Yes because their experience is only relevant in one small sector of business.

You CAN'T seriously think this! You're not really this dumb! Let's revisit this point when YOU or a loved one gets scooped into an ambulance and sent to a hospital, AND there is a Paramedic right by your/there side keeping your asses alive until the Doctors can see you.

Nope, they're subuhman parasites who should have their wealth confiscated and be worked to death for their refusal to contribute to society

On this point we can agree! And I would go further, stick their sportsball asses out in the fields too!

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 04:39:50 ago (+0/-0)

Ok, but, what you fail to see is that those teens picking fruit & vegetables in the fields today will become your Furnace Repairmen and Roofers of tomorrow. You're getting them accustomed to learning how work and deal with people as they work on farms.

The "skills" you say they would be learning are things they should know how to do naturally, they dont need to "learn" basic functions and being forced into a dead end job denies them the ability to use that time to learn any skilled labor, this modern idea of career hopping is insane and inefficient, no reason to force everyone into years of work in fields that they'll just be leaving anyway.

Think of it as a summer conscription designed to get their asses away from meaningless endeavors like xBox

Conscription is bullshit and why should they be denied the chance to have anything in their lives to bring them joy, let alone in the summer where manual labor outside is likely to cause heatstroke and death, school should be a much shorter experience and extended breaks(more than a couple days) shouldn't even exist.

You CAN'T seriously think this! You're not really this dumb! Let's revisit this point when YOU or a loved one gets scooped into an ambulance and sent to a hospital, AND there is a Paramedic right by your/there side keeping your asses alive until the Doctors can see you.

Okay, I'll think about how they'll be out on the street with no other options if they fuck up their medical careers, not sure what your point is.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:19:00 ago (+0/-0)

except the post has fuck all to do with exports and everything to do with farms who extort the local market demanding they keep their illegal slave labour so they can earn FUCKING stupid amounts of profit, instead of just STUPID amounts.

im less and less sympathetic towards commercial farmers every day. i want to support them but theyre another bunch of people that keeps on pointing in every direction but themselves and then whine about muh discriminashuns when their farms get raided by immigration.

im also not sympathetic on pathetic fucking dole bludgers that refuse to do shit like fruit picking. what they get paid for it is fucking bullshit but a dole bludger already gets paid to do fucking nothing, start cutting off the welfare of long term able bodied people, and if they resort to law breaking instead of sock pulling then they get put in a hole.

[ - ] anon 1730224 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:18:42 ago (+0/-0)

im also not sympathetic on pathetic fucking dole bludgers that refuse to do shit like fruit picking. what they get paid for it is fucking bullshit but a dole bludger already gets paid to do fucking nothing, start cutting off the welfare of long term able bodied people, and if they resort to law breaking instead of sock pulling then they get put in a hole.

You're an enemy of the people and should be strung up as such. You realize employers were the ones forcing the vax and welfare was the only option for people unwilling to gamble on an untested and newly mandated injection? Not to mention how few jobs are actually hiring.

[ - ] anon 1916648 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:10:13 ago (+2/-0)

There are no "immigrants," "refugees," "migrants" or "asylum seekers," there are only foreign invader parasites with multiple labels that are used to legitimize the invaders' presence in White countries. They ALL must go back or be killed off. Enough is enough.

[ - ] Trope 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:51:34 ago (+0/-0)

Perhaps a fair middle ground would be to allow them all to stay in the United States.

Yes, and they can serve as a fine mulch to fertilize the orchards.

[ - ] anon 2222745 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:19:54 ago (+1/-0)

How fast can they pick?

[ - ] anon 1941628 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 22:43:51 ago (+0/-0)

If they are here illegally they are getting exploited. They get shitty pay and then we all pay for their healthcare, etc.

No that cannot be here illegally, either get registered with a work pass and get well paid or get out.

The only reason they want them is as slaves, and they pass the cost on to us all.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:15:54 ago (+0/-0)

nope. hire locals and suck up the extortion that youve been getting away with for decades.

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:05:58 ago (+0/-0)

they would have to pay for american workers a lot more, and that's where it hurts

[ - ] anon 2155670 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 02:35:43 ago (+0/-0)

And this is where the smartest brains in America put their heads together to figure out how to cut the bloat out of farming so that Farmers can make a reasonable profit, and still cover all of their expenses. There's too much bloat (waste) in the system! Too many (((parasites))) in the chain between fields & dinner table that needlessly suck money out of the farming system...

[ - ] anon 3170085 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 05:31:42 ago (+0/-0)

Totally fine, leave them, but be prepared to be deep probed on every sent of tax you didn't pay for those spics and you better be ready to pay them 50% more than you would a white worker. (after all they are so much better than we are)

After all you really seem to care about the spics not that they depress wages.

And OP, the reason why you can't use prisoners is, the cost of containing their chimpout and their inability to work effecient, would be more expensive than just hiring normal workers at full price with benefits.