ProTip: Tariffs will lead to higher prices. That's the whole point. Make foreign goods more expensive to incentivize Americans to buy American products.
Tell me you never imported something without telling me you never imported anything.
ProTip: When a product is imported, there is a manifest of goods presented to the customs authority. Among the information given to them is a catalogue of what you bought, country of origin, and how much you paid for those goods. Customs then applies the tax (tariff) accordingly.
No! The tariffs cause the goods to cost the importer more. That's not the same as increasing the price you and I pay. We don't pay for that manifest. The importer does. And, the importer takes that out of the profits he'd otherwise make when selling that good at market. The importer eats the tariff, not the consumer.
The price on the shelf at the store where you buy the item is not a reflection of the "manifest of goods presented to the customs authority" or the taxes collected by customs. None of that is represented in the price tag we see.
OK, the importer just ate it at customs, but the dude is cool, he is totally just going to take the hit himself and not increase the price he sells it at. He's just that cool of a guy!
Nigger, they absolutely reduced the profits of the foreign manufacturers and lowers the GDP for foreign states, which is way faggots like Trudeau bend the knee to tariffs almost instantaneously.
When Trump Tariff'ed Mexico and said he'd remove the tariffs if Mexico helped with border security, Mexico immediately stated helping with border security and the "remain in Mexico" policy worked, even when the migrants were from countries other than Mexico. Mexico was losing money. Mexican companies were losing profits as ac result of the tariffs. Prices here in the US didn't change at all, as a result of the tariffs.
You simply don't understand how shit works.
Worst part is that you said this,
you would need 500% tariffs to make America competitive with manufacturing there
The "500%" is fucking stupid but at least you recognize that a 25% tariff isn't nearly enough to increase competition. Tariffs aren't meant to increase competitiveness. They are meant to skim 25% off the profit taking by the foreign manufacturers, which cuts into GDP and foreign government revenue streams, while increasing US government revenue.
Faggot, you, yourself, said that you'd need a 500% tariff to make goods competitive. Now, you're calling me stupid because I said that it's not the intention of a 25% tariff, placed on targeted countries, to be increase competition. What utter fucking horseshit is that? Why would it increase competition? It's only 25% Nowhere near 500%.
Tariffs don't increase prices and do not increae competitivness on the market. Tariffs cost the targeted country, and the companies in that country, money, and that money goes to the US government. Those targeted contries' companies are not going to raise prices at the market to cover the tariffs. They cant. They don't set the price in this country. We, the consumer, sets the price in this country. We decide what we will pay. They will eat the costs of the tariffs. The tariffs will cut directly into their profit margins. That's the whole point of tariffs as a means of sanctuons. To cost the targeted country money and to put pressure on that government by the companies that are also losing money.aa a result of the tariffs.
Not an argument, ya fuckin' nigger, and that's exactly how tariffs work and why they are so effective.
You posted a post from a fake news outlet that says 2/3'rds of Americans THINK tariffs will cause price increases. That means 1/3'rd of the people (half of conservatives) do NOT think tariffs will raise prices. Why do you suppose that is? If it's so fucking obvious that tariffs raise prices, then why do half the conservatives, who are usually more financial minded, think that they won't?
If the only effect of tariffs is to raise competitiveness of American goods at the expense of the consumer, why did you barf up bullshit about how that isn't gonna happen unless the tariffs are 500%, not 25%?
If tariffs do nothing but cost the consumer more at the checkout, why do nation's leaders cave to tariffs so quickly like Trudeau has, not even 2 days later, or Mexico did in a week? Why would Xi give a fuck about a 25% tariff if all it did was hurt the American consumer? He wouldn't. But he does. Why? Cause Tariffs on Chinese products hurts Chinese companies' bottom line and that pressure, created by those company owners, is felt at the government level.
You're a proven disingenuous fucking nigger and you're right here, right now, being a complete disingenuous fucking nigger.
Hey retard, American companies are not subject to foreign tariffs. It's like you're fucking retarded.
And, are Trudeau, Sheinbaum, or Xi campaign contributors of Trump or no? Cause they all seem upset by the proposed tariffs.
And, what about the tariffs that the Biden administration kept in place? Who were the campaign contributors that benefitted from that? Were they Trump contributors or Biden's, or both?
I guess you think that the President of Mexico, in response to Trump trying to make things more expensive for Americans, is going to make things more expensive for Mexicans, right, ya fuckin' retard?
The consumer absolutely has a choice, and nothing about those choices change when tariffs are added, especially in countries that exploit slave labor, manipulate currencies, and horde profits. Those countries and those countries manufactures simply make less profit.
That choice would probably be driven homeless due to prices while shitskins are shipped into fill the jobs, steal our women and further accelerate white genocide.
Trump had tariffs during his last 4 years and prices were lower then. We didn't have tariffs under Biden and prices went up. I think prices have more to do with inflation than tariffs.
2/3'rds of Americans don't understand what a tariff is, or how they work.
No. It will not raise prices.
You even said,
you would need 500% tariffs to make America competitive with manufacturing there
Yet, you're too fuckin' stupid to understand why a 25%, 50%, or even a 100% tariff will not raise prices in this country. You're literally fucking retarded.
Tariffs do not increase the price of foreign goods. They certainly don't increase the prices of domestic goods.
And, while I'm not a fan of ANY immigration. Domestic made products, made by anyone, benefit Americans far, far more than if they are made elsewhere and shipped here.
Tariffs do not increase the price of foreign goods.
They literally make it more expensive to import things. something that once cost a few dollars will now cost an entire day's wages, we already struggle to pay for food and now the prices of food will only go up while the foriegners shipped into take the jobs will further contribute to white genocide, lower wages, increase housing costs and further make the lives of white men a living hell. Good chance I could end up homeless from this.
You don't pay to import things that you buy. The importer pays that tariff to put that good on your market for your consideration. You set the price that you're willing to pay for a product. The importer simply eats the cost of the tariff.
In the US, most goods and services have a 6-10% profit margin. That's not the case for foreign products. The tariffs on foreign goods comes out of that profit margin. It does not result in an increase of price.
In the US, most goods and services have a 6-10% profit margin. That's not the case for foreign products. The tariffs on foreign goods comes out of that profit margin. It does not result in an increase of price.
US goods cost 30 times more than an equivalent product made in China, Vietnam or India, the price of the raw materials used to make most common goods is almost certainly part of that price, not to mention that all "made in the US" good are just final production steps there's not enough profit to eat if tarrifs were high enough to make US goods competitive and if the tarrifs were the high the only way for an average man to survive would be in prison.
US goods cost 30 times more than an equivalent product made in China
Holy fuck. Another fucking retard.
YES. Lets say it is 30 times more expensive. So, when you go to the store and the US made thing is $10, is the Chinese equivalent 30 cents? No! It's like $5. So, while the US product is 30 times more expensive to make, the Chinese sell that same product for half, not 1/30th. A 25% tariff of that $5:Chinese shit product will not cause the Chink to charge $6.25. He'll charge $5 and eat the tariff because you might decide the difference between $10 and $6.25 isn't worth buying the chink shit. The chink will simply make 25% less profit on that good. Especially, if you can still buy the Korean shit product for $5.50.
YES.30 times more. So, when you go to the store and the US made thing is $10, is the Chinese equivalent 30 cents? No! It's like $5.
What are you buying made in the US that costs only $10 and why are you buying from a brick and mortar store? It's not unusual for me to see difference in prices that literally are as high as 3000% especially if you're looking at the kinds of products that are sold to idiots shopping B&M
He'll charge $5 and eat the tariff because you might decide the difference between $10 and $6.25 isn't worth buying the chink shit. The chink will simply make 25% less profit on that good.
All goods are chink shit and nobody with a functional brain would pay double the price just to buy from a company that directly takes part in the importation of shitskins to white nations
No it doesn't! Tariffs do not increase labor costs. Tariffs decrease the profits of foreign manufacturers. This is not an increase in price, it's simply less profit for chinks, spics, etc.
You simply don't understand how tarrifs work or how prices are set and determined.
Consumers set the price, not manufactures. You'll pay $50,000 for a car, and you might pay a little less for a lower quality car. The difference in that price is not a reflection of the cost to make the car.
Nice example of a good common men can't afford asshole. Consumers have no control over prices, we have to pay whatever it takes to survive or kill someone so we can live on the tax payer's dime in prison.
Bullshit, ya fuckin' nigger. There is literally 100 million fucking people in this country that don't work a day in their life and get by.
Sounds like you need a better job. Maybe learn a fucking skill or something. Today, I bought $155 in groceries to makes pies for Thanksgiving. Pies! Using organic ingredients, heirloom eggs, the highest quality spices. I chose that. I'm middle of the road middle class and have 2 automobiles better than $50k each.
Stop being a bum.
As for tariffs, if anything I bought at the store was made in China, the price would be the same today as it would be with a 50% tariff because that Chinese product can only charge enough that keeps me buying chink shit instead of something else. The same today as it is post tariff. And to do that, that China producer has to eat that tariff, not me.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:17:22 ago (+1/-0)
So, that's a lie. Crypto is a ponzie scheme, little different than the USD, except there is no backing of a government, no "full faith and credit" of a government. I own crypto. I don't not like crypto. I use crypto. And I'm up 122% over the last year in crypto.
There is plenty I don't like that are not ponzie schemes. I don't like you. I don't think your a ponzie scheme.
Companies must use a smaller labor pool if they are not importing. That improves the hand of domestic workers, who no longer have to compete with Chinks. Domestic workers can demand higher wages from companies, which is an increase in the price of labor.
Tariffs do not imply a reduction of importing and if the prices of goods doesn't change, the level of purchasing of the foreign goods does not change. The people who buy chink shit today, will buy chink shit, at the same price, after the tariffs.
I'm all for buying American but tariffs aren't really going to change any of that.
I really don't know why this seems so hard to understand. Chinese companies will just eat the tariff. Why would they raise prices when we'll just buy shit from Korea instead, if they do?
Chinese companies are already pretty fucking competitive. The money’s gotta come out of something. Will they cut workers’ wages? Will they cut quality? You think the billionaires making that decision will voluntarily take a paycut?
Who said anything about "voluntarily"? That's the whole point of tariffs. They force foreign companies to take a hit on their profit margins. That's the pressure caused by tariffs. That's exactly why tariffs are so effective. They hit the bottom line of the target country's companies which puts pressure on the target company.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:46:12 ago (+2/-0)
That's the whole point.
Make foreign goods more expensive to incentivize Americans to buy American products.
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2024 09:56:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:48:45 ago (+0/-1)
The manufacturer doesn't set the price. The consumer does.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:00:39 ago (+1/-0)
ProTip: When a product is imported, there is a manifest of goods presented to the customs authority.
Among the information given to them is a catalogue of what you bought, country of origin, and how much you paid for those goods.
Customs then applies the tax (tariff) accordingly.
So, yeah, the goods are more expensive afterward.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:09:49 ago (+0/-1)
The price on the shelf at the store where you buy the item is not a reflection of the "manifest of goods presented to the customs authority" or the taxes collected by customs. None of that is represented in the price tag we see.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:15:21 ago (+1/-0)
He's just that cool of a guy!
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:52:31 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:01:39 ago (+0/-1)
When Trump Tariff'ed Mexico and said he'd remove the tariffs if Mexico helped with border security, Mexico immediately stated helping with border security and the "remain in Mexico" policy worked, even when the migrants were from countries other than Mexico. Mexico was losing money. Mexican companies were losing profits as ac result of the tariffs. Prices here in the US didn't change at all, as a result of the tariffs.
You simply don't understand how shit works.
Worst part is that you said this,
The "500%" is fucking stupid but at least you recognize that a 25% tariff isn't nearly enough to increase competition. Tariffs aren't meant to increase competitiveness. They are meant to skim 25% off the profit taking by the foreign manufacturers, which cuts into GDP and foreign government revenue streams, while increasing US government revenue.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:35:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:35:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:35:41 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2024 09:57:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:42:24 ago (+0/-1)
You, my friend, are officially retarded
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:17:15 ago (+0/-0)
Tariffs don't increase prices and do not increae competitivness on the market. Tariffs cost the targeted country, and the companies in that country, money, and that money goes to the US government. Those targeted contries' companies are not going to raise prices at the market to cover the tariffs. They cant. They don't set the price in this country. We, the consumer, sets the price in this country. We decide what we will pay. They will eat the costs of the tariffs. The tariffs will cut directly into their profit margins. That's the whole point of tariffs as a means of sanctuons. To cost the targeted country money and to put pressure on that government by the companies that are also losing money.aa a result of the tariffs.
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 03:14:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 06:44:36 ago (+0/-0)
You posted a post from a fake news outlet that says 2/3'rds of Americans THINK tariffs will cause price increases. That means 1/3'rd of the people (half of conservatives) do NOT think tariffs will raise prices. Why do you suppose that is? If it's so fucking obvious that tariffs raise prices, then why do half the conservatives, who are usually more financial minded, think that they won't?
If the only effect of tariffs is to raise competitiveness of American goods at the expense of the consumer, why did you barf up bullshit about how that isn't gonna happen unless the tariffs are 500%, not 25%?
If tariffs do nothing but cost the consumer more at the checkout, why do nation's leaders cave to tariffs so quickly like Trudeau has, not even 2 days later, or Mexico did in a week? Why would Xi give a fuck about a 25% tariff if all it did was hurt the American consumer? He wouldn't. But he does. Why? Cause Tariffs on Chinese products hurts Chinese companies' bottom line and that pressure, created by those company owners, is felt at the government level.
You're a proven disingenuous fucking nigger and you're right here, right now, being a complete disingenuous fucking nigger.
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 09:25:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 09:38:23 ago (+0/-0)
And, are Trudeau, Sheinbaum, or Xi campaign contributors of Trump or no? Cause they all seem upset by the proposed tariffs.
And, what about the tariffs that the Biden administration kept in place? Who were the campaign contributors that benefitted from that? Were they Trump contributors or Biden's, or both?
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 07:50:33 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/mexico-threatens-trump-counter-tariffs-china-cries-foul
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:01:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:11:50 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:15:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:12:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:51:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 18:33:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:07:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:47:36 ago (+1/-1)*
No. It will not raise prices.
You even said,
Yet, you're too fuckin' stupid to understand why a 25%, 50%, or even a 100% tariff will not raise prices in this country. You're literally fucking retarded.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:03:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:13:57 ago (+0/-0)
And, while I'm not a fan of ANY immigration. Domestic made products, made by anyone, benefit Americans far, far more than if they are made elsewhere and shipped here.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:18:35 ago (+0/-0)
They literally make it more expensive to import things. something that once cost a few dollars will now cost an entire day's wages, we already struggle to pay for food and now the prices of food will only go up while the foriegners shipped into take the jobs will further contribute to white genocide, lower wages, increase housing costs and further make the lives of white men a living hell. Good chance I could end up homeless from this.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:25:06 ago (+0/-0)
In the US, most goods and services have a 6-10% profit margin. That's not the case for foreign products. The tariffs on foreign goods comes out of that profit margin. It does not result in an increase of price.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:30:00 ago (+0/-0)
US goods cost 30 times more than an equivalent product made in China, Vietnam or India, the price of the raw materials used to make most common goods is almost certainly part of that price, not to mention that all "made in the US" good are just final production steps there's not enough profit to eat if tarrifs were high enough to make US goods competitive and if the tarrifs were the high the only way for an average man to survive would be in prison.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:35:27 ago (+0/-0)
Holy fuck. Another fucking retard.
YES. Lets say it is 30 times more expensive. So, when you go to the store and the US made thing is $10, is the Chinese equivalent 30 cents? No! It's like $5. So, while the US product is 30 times more expensive to make, the Chinese sell that same product for half, not 1/30th. A 25% tariff of that $5:Chinese shit product will not cause the Chink to charge $6.25. He'll charge $5 and eat the tariff because you might decide the difference between $10 and $6.25 isn't worth buying the chink shit. The chink will simply make 25% less profit on that good. Especially, if you can still buy the Korean shit product for $5.50.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:40:18 ago (+0/-0)
What are you buying made in the US that costs only $10 and why are you buying from a brick and mortar store? It's not unusual for me to see difference in prices that literally are as high as 3000% especially if you're looking at the kinds of products that are sold to idiots shopping B&M
All goods are chink shit and nobody with a functional brain would pay double the price just to buy from a company that directly takes part in the importation of shitskins to white nations
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:18:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:46:12 ago (+0/-0)
Honestly 2/3 of americans don’t know what a tariff is, come on.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:04:36 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:35:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:50:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:04:11 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:17:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:19:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:22:06 ago (+0/-0)
Consumers set the price, not manufactures. You'll pay $50,000 for a car, and you might pay a little less for a lower quality car. The difference in that price is not a reflection of the cost to make the car.
[ + ] BannedEverwhere
[ - ] BannedEverwhere 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:24:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:31:17 ago (+0/-1)
Sounds like you need a better job. Maybe learn a fucking skill or something. Today, I bought $155 in groceries to makes pies for Thanksgiving. Pies! Using organic ingredients, heirloom eggs, the highest quality spices. I chose that. I'm middle of the road middle class and have 2 automobiles better than $50k each.
Stop being a bum.
As for tariffs, if anything I bought at the store was made in China, the price would be the same today as it would be with a 50% tariff because that Chinese product can only charge enough that keeps me buying chink shit instead of something else. The same today as it is post tariff. And to do that, that China producer has to eat that tariff, not me.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:03:59 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:17:22 ago (+1/-0)
There is plenty I don't like that are not ponzie schemes. I don't like you. I don't think your a ponzie scheme.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:38:56 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:20:57 ago (+0/-0)
I'm all for buying American but tariffs aren't really going to change any of that.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:24:57 ago (+0/-0)
I think they do. I think its almost impossible that the price of imports don’t go up.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:29:20 ago (+0/-0)
Or shreetshitteria, or muzzistan, or beaneruella?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:36:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 06:33:13 ago (+0/-0)