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[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 11 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:30:05 ago (+12/-1)

Lying is considered "sacred deception" so long as the one being lied to is an infidel or Goy, both muzzies and jews eat from the same plate...my aversion to both semitic cults is justified by virtue of "sacred deception"...shoot 1st, ask questions later.

[ - ] Theo -10 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:33:29 ago (+3/-13)*

That's bullshit. Taqqiya only applies in specific circumstances, for example to deny Muslim belief when being honest would place the Muslim in danger.

[ - ] Sleazy 16 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:19:39 ago (+16/-0)

advancing islam in infidel territories is a valid reason too dumb fuck

[ - ] Theo -11 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:24:10 ago (+1/-12)

No it isn't, you ignorant plonker.

[ - ] GreenSaint 6 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:36:00 ago (+6/-0)

DONT CALL HIM A PLONKER!!!!

[ - ] Theo -7 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:48:55 ago (+2/-9)

Why not? He just called me a dumb fuck and he's the one who can't argue his point.

[ - ] KeepPoal4fags 6 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:57:06 ago (+6/-0)

But you are in fact dumb, perhaps even retarded.

[ - ] Theo -3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:05:10 ago (+2/-5)

You have no facts, shithead.

[ - ] Hobama 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 10:26:45 ago (+0/-0)

Its because youre retarded, so his point is valid. Your point is not.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 5 monthsNov 30, 2024 21:22:19 ago (+0/-0)

You think I'm retarded be not believing someone who doesn't know what the point was?

Bite me, shithead.

[ - ] Hobama 0 points 4 monthsDec 1, 2024 19:00:22 ago (+0/-0)

Based on your grammar, I can also deduce that you are retarded.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 4 monthsDec 1, 2024 22:21:25 ago (+0/-0)

Non sequitur.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 4 monthsDec 1, 2024 22:18:34 ago (+0/-0)

You don't make a point from a fiction, dipshit.

[ - ] BannedEverwhere 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:21:53 ago (+2/-0)

okay kike. What sort of retarded group wouldn't permit lying to advance it's own interests?

[ - ] Theo 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:35:53 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not a kike, fuckwit.

[ - ] Bottled_Tears 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:51:50 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah okay kike.

[ - ] Theo -2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 20:09:45 ago (+0/-2)

Another one from the liars guild, am I right?

[ - ] Bottled_Tears 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 14:28:00 ago (+0/-0)

Why are you here. Kike.

Not a question. So don't reply. Unless you're a jew.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 5 monthsNov 30, 2024 21:21:04 ago (+0/-0)

Fuckwits can't cope with the truth. Believe what ever you want.

[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:20:10 ago (+1/-0)

To a muslem it is

[ - ] KeepPoal4fags 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:35:42 ago (+2/-0)

Nobody but kikes, muslims and abject retards defend islam. And it demands we re-hash the "facts" about them again.
What a freak.

[ - ] Theo -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:34:09 ago (+0/-1)

O ye who believe! Fear Allah and be with those who are true (in word and deed).
Quran 9:119

[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:52:35 ago (+1/-0)

Cherry picking?

[ - ] Theo 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:56:06 ago (+0/-0)

So show me something from the Quran that advocates dishonesty.

[ - ] Sleazy 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:35:54 ago (+2/-0)

Koran 3:28: “Believers should not take Kafirs (unbelievers) as friends in preference to other believers. Who ever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah.” (In other words, if you’re a real friend [to a Kafir], you’re no longer friend of Allah). “ . . . unless you but guard yourself against them [Kafirs], taking precautions.”

What this is interpreted to mean is that a Muslim can act friendly but he’s not actually the friend. That’s what is wrong. In other words, a Muslim may never give preference to a Kafir over a Muslim. There are, by the way, no less than 12 verses which say that a Muslim is not the friend of the Kafir.

Now let’s turn to the Hadith.
“Mohammed: ‘Who will kill Ka’b bin Ashraf who has offended Allah and his prophet?’
A Muslim: ‘I will Mohammed. Would you have me do so?’
‘Yes.’
‘In order to kill him, I will need to deceive him. May I do that?’
Mohammed: ‘Yes.’”
So, the Muslim deceived Ka’b bin Ashraf and he did kill him.

What is this? This is the Sunna of Mohammed; it is possible to lie to the Kafir as long as it advances Islam. This is the nature of Taqiyya.

Now there is another way in which a Muslim can lie. There’s a hadith, a fairly well-known hadith, in which there are three reasons for Muslims to lie. One is jihad, that is the struggle against the Kafir. So a Muslim can lie to you anytime he needs to advance Islam

[ - ] uvulectomy 3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:58:53 ago (+3/-0)

headshot, mic-drop, etc.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 05:17:25 ago (+1/-0)

@Sleazy ...great job FYI "SUNNAH", you just scratched the pimple, the pustule is the size of a grape with Islam...but you don't want to go beyond the attention span of OPs or get death threats from those in and out of lucidity.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 4 monthsDec 1, 2024 22:15:12 ago (+0/-0)

I've already adddressed taqqiya, and the hadith has an extensive history of being unreliable.

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=674639d6f2157&commentid=67463ea9052ca

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:58:36 ago (+3/-0)

@Theo ...can you restructure your wording in a way that expresses your position without having to guess what your thoughts are implying...SACRED DECEPTION IS INTERPRETED AS IT IS IMPLIED, NO CRYPTIC NUANCES OR PERIPHERAL ALLUSION.

[ - ] Theo -2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:33:12 ago (+0/-2)

Sacred deception (taqqiya or kitman) in Islam is based on text from the Quran. For example feigning friendship with unbelievers when doing otherwise would place them in jeopardy.

Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
Quran 3:28, Yusuf Ali

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:02:04 ago (+3/-0)

@Theo ...I distrust anyone who's frame of mind is structured with even the concept of justifying a lie. What the Quran or the Torah deems justified or legitimate means nothing to me...my perspective is aligned with the reality of what I've witnessed...I cannot and won't be denied that, for that would be suicidal.

[ - ] Theo -2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:07:48 ago (+0/-2)

It's OK that you don't trust me. If you had to lie in order to save the life of your child, would you do it?

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 20:48:52 ago (+1/-0)

@Theo ...that (type of) comment is exactly what exposes flaws over the course of debate, the more indepth a conversation or debate goes the more structural flaws are revealed...it's like a welding test where "tickets" from the weld are sectioned off and undergo testing for modulus and tensile flaws performed by shearing elongating forces, the flaws are revealed when the coupon is radially bent from flat...a solid weld bends with no signs of weak heat penetration...any weld can be fluffed up to look good but when put to the test it doesn't hold up...I could rip your coupon apart but in the end what have I accomplished other than a bigger waste of time than what I've already spent.
You do not want to read my response.
I am etc
ZYKLONBEEKEEPER

[ - ] Theo -1 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 20:54:07 ago (+0/-1)

So what's your point?

[ - ] recon_johnny 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:31:27 ago (+2/-0)

He called you a cunt, mate.

[ - ] Theo -1 points 4 monthsDec 1, 2024 22:16:21 ago (+0/-1)

You really think that you make a point by calling someone a cunt?

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:18:18 ago (+3/-0)

lol they made it about free speech.

[ - ] boekanier 2 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 00:52:17 ago (+2/-0)

muslim scum

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 13:46:09 ago (+1/-0)

Muslims do not belong in Western Europe and should be driven out forcibly

[ - ] goatfugee12 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:20:11 ago (+2/-0)

oddly enough I never heard about a barbaric muzzie decapitation in FRANCE. not iraq or pakistan.... FRANCE.

which way white man?

[ - ] MuricaPersonified 0 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 20:17:02 ago (+0/-0)

Yet it happened in 2020. Goes to show how strongly suppressed freedom of speech and real press is for the eurocucks.

[ - ] BannedEverwhere 2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 18:21:14 ago (+2/-0)

Should be raped to death on film

[ - ] x0x7 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:21:12 ago (+1/-0)

What kind of jihadist believes the testimony of a woman?

[ - ] Rob3122 [op] 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 23:29:08 ago (+1/-0)

Now that's a good question

[ - ] hylo 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:21:56 ago (+1/-0)

The problem here is the decapitation based on a lie told by a kid.

[ - ] Rob3122 [op] 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 21:33:09 ago (+1/-0)

A muslim kid

[ - ] HeavyBrain 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:12:19 ago (+1/-0)

Don't worry she is now forcefully married to her cousin uncle who is in his 40s.

And lying to destroy kaffir is not only ok you are obligated.

[ - ] ShortbusAlcoholic 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2024 01:56:18 ago (+0/-0)

Trolololololol you get what you import.

While i do want to belive in chpice and some semblance of democracy, i hope the germanjewgovernment bans the right. I reeeeeeeeeeaally do. It'll give america an ally when houston is nuked.

[ - ] feminismisculturedeath -2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 19:34:12 ago (+0/-2)

Lots of anti-mudslime agiprop now that israhell is getting its ass kicked in lebanon and wants a cease fire so it can get its golem united states to attack iran and the entire mudslime world...and get into yet another 10 year anti-mudslime war that the US inevitably loses because it doesn't even want to fucking be there.

You can tell because you're supposed to feel really bad that they're not letting the women be wantonly slutty whores which is "really honorable" according to the jews and the left; meanwhile, the entire eastern world laughs at the west being such deeply degenerate and denigrated cuckolds that they actually pride themselves on being cuckolds.

Let's go die so sluts can be sluts! It's absolutely the most important thing on planet earth. Reminds me of how "ork" suddenly started getting used en masse online to prepare for the dehumanization preceding the slaughter of its own men thinking they're fighting some brutish lesser. Like you with the mudslimes. They suck, but at least they aren't cuckolds. You have to admit. They aren't absolute degenerate cuckolds who find that honorable, like you.

[ - ] Rob3122 [op] 1 point 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 20:53:01 ago (+1/-0)

Because slavery and raping kids through religion is a better alternative...


You Muslim fans are clowns

[ - ] Theo -5 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:31:14 ago (+2/-7)

Western media misrepresent the nature of jihad. This goes back to Herzl's plan for the Jewish state of Israel, as endorsed by the Oded Yinon plan. The plan doesn't recognise the land rights of the descendants of Ishmael from Genesis 15, and some Muslims claim descent from Ishmael.

[ - ] UncleDoug 3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:50:31 ago (+3/-0)

No one cares what's in the judeo book of deception. A government based on plagiarist, millennia old, kike texts is no way to form a government.

[ - ] deleted -2 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 17:23:19 ago (+0/-2)

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[ - ] Theo -3 points 5 monthsNov 26, 2024 16:53:37 ago (+0/-3)

Why do you think that it is a book of deception?