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Old planes vs new planes, the simulator summary

submitted by GodsNotDead to TellTalk 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 19:06:43 ago (+23/-1)     (TellTalk)

I tried a B727-200,737-200,747-200 for Boeings. And I tried an Airbus A320, A330. I noticed a very stark difference in the way the two fly. This may be biased since all the Boeing I flew were build before 1975 (roughly). The first thing i noticed is airbus has this really annoying habit of flying for you. It's like if a plane had the arrogance of a Frenchman, with the engineering of a German. It also tends to do sporadic, dumb shit no one asked it to do.

Conversely the Boeings had a tendency to lean down towards the ground. My guess is the center of gravity was towards the front of the plane. However, after some getting used to, it was easier to fly a plane from 50+ years ago, than a much newer airbus. What I find interesting is the 707,717,727,737 all share the same airframe. They only changed the frame from 747 onwards. Im picturing someone just used MSPaint to stretch the 737-800 by copy pasting the center fuselage.

What I loved on the older planes is the lack of glass. Everything looked much simpler and intuitive, easy to use. I know Boeing has gone down the automation route too, and a lot of planes have crashed because of it. Sometimes I wish we would go back to older plane formats, and focus on manual navigation, and actually having the pilot do stuff the old way. Too much automation is killing the aviation industry.


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[ - ] ClaytonBigsby313 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 05:32:58 ago (+0/-0)

What I love about the old aircraft is they ooze character. Each one is twitchy in it's own way.

Try the Corsair, Milvez makes an excellent one. It was joy to fly.

[ - ] jfroybees 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 01:40:11 ago (+0/-0)

We have to go back.

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 23:47:57 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 21:24:05 ago (+3/-0)

It's not the automation directly, it's who it's designed for. It's a crutch for DEI women/niggers to lean on so that they can be plopped in place instead of a poorly-trained poo.

[ - ] letsgetit 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 00:07:08 ago (+0/-0)

And who is doing the programming design? Pakistan code farms

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 03:29:19 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah, which is why everything is failing. You need nerdy White guys with a stable job, family, and society to create good code.

And a lot of caffeine.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 10:12:07 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] green_man 5 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 21:12:31 ago (+5/-0)

They need planes that sheboons can fly so they dump all of this tech in them, but they had jeets write the code. Who knows what dei retard "engineer" they got to design it. It's completely fucked on all sides. Top it off with shoving niggers into ATC and I expect air travel to become far more unsafe in the near future.

[ - ] letsgetit 1 point 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 00:05:22 ago (+1/-0)

The dreaded fear that hits your brain as you board a plane and see a Nigger and a girl boss Mexican sitting in the cockpit

[ - ] JoesLegHair 1 point 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:54:31 ago (+1/-0)

They are pitching down because you don't have it trimmed. The 717 was based on the DC-9.

[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:45:40 ago (+0/-0)

Well,pilots should be able to fly manually regardless of what you put on the plane. I mean,are you really a pilot if you can't fly the plane without all the fancy shit?

[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 21:40:41 ago (+1/-0)

When the "fly by wire" doesn't anymore, the "blue screen of death" becomes a lot more literal.

[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 01:58:27 ago (+0/-0)

So you're saying there's no way to fly the plane manually. What moron thought that was a good idea?

[ - ] GodsNotDead [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 08:28:09 ago (+1/-0)

A lot of MD planes crashed due to the hydraulic system being bled and losing all control of the aircraft. An interesting issue on the MD is that the hydraulic system was fed through the back vertical stabilizer engine. In one crash, when the engine blew up, it took the entire control system with it. I believe MD has fixed that minor "snag" since then.

The claim is it saves on weight and cost, but this doesnt explain why older planes that were just as heavy did not make use of fly by wire. The H4 is huge and made no use of fly by wire, neither did the original 737, 727, 717, 707 (even though it had the option) or the original 747.

[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:37:46 ago (+0/-0)

Anticipation of low IQ,no skill pilots?

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 23:17:20 ago (+0/-0)

lol, dumbass.

[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 01:57:17 ago (+0/-0)

And there's that jewish projection.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 07:40:06 ago (+0/-0)

Yep, everyone who thinks you are a blithering moron is a kike.

What a fucking retard.

[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:35:19 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah,you couldn't possibly be a jew. It's just impossible.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:40:25 ago (+0/-0)

You're such a retard I am willing to bet you are a national socialist.

[ - ] Merlynn -1 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:43:56 ago (+0/-1)

Nigger,do you know where you are?

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:46:14 ago (+0/-0)

Called it.

Typical natsoc IQ of 80 was difficult to miss.

[ - ] Merlynn 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:51:03 ago (+0/-0)

And again with the projection.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 21:52:06 ago (+0/-0)

Sure, buddy.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:15:07 ago (+0/-0)

TIL GND is a pilot. Pretty cool. Thank you for the interesting insight.

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 1 point 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 00:21:41 ago (+1/-0)

Or he just plays Microsoft Flight Simulator or X-Plane.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 00:36:35 ago (+0/-0)

Oh I missed that part somehow.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 9 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 19:50:49 ago (+9/-0)

Much the same can be said for old cars vs new cars.

[ - ] xmasskull 4 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:16:46 ago (+4/-0)

Now there's a can-O-worms to be opened.

[ - ] UrCoolerOlderBrother 2 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 22:31:28 ago (+2/-0)

I'm never getting rid of my older car. Going to ride that thing until the wheels fall off.

[ - ] letsgetit 0 points 7 monthsNov 15, 2024 00:02:33 ago (+0/-0)

And your driving data sent to car manufacturers to sell on the open market

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 19:17:40 ago (+2/-0)

Yeah, nothing like doubling the cost of airfare by making planes connect VOR stations instead of flying GPS direct!

And fuck it, let's get rid of autoland in near zero visibility and go back to 200 feet and 1000' RVR. No one actually needs to fly out of LaGuardia in January.

[ - ] GodsNotDead [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:08:49 ago (+1/-0)

Conversely Asiana Flight 214 crashed on approach because the retards didn't setup the ILS properly. So you know, it goes both ways.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:18:31 ago (+0/-0)

Not sure how that's both ways. You seem to be making my point. Why ILS when you can RNAV with GPS?

[ - ] GodsNotDead [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 14, 2024 20:50:50 ago (+1/-0)

Because i didn't understand the heavy use of sarcasm is why