What is everyone here seeing. I am hearing about people who are flat broke (to be fair i have confirmed at least 75% of these people are addicted to drugs and/or alcohol) and can't find work. And then I'm hearing the job market is better than ever (which I find hard to believe because of all the illegal immigration).
Does anyone have solid info on this? Is it a mixed bag truly?
Its both it depends on the perspective, for the company it seems they pay you very well, a little too well and yes responding to your application within a year is fast.
[ - ] prototype 1 point 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 00:36:45 ago (+1/-0)
Economy is very close to going tits-up with hyperinflation.
Most jobs are make-work. Something like a quarter of western GDP is funded by government spending.
Ten million fucking bureucrats slithering up everyone's asshole with regulations and micromanagement.
No one starts businesses because of the overhead of even starting one.
Shits fucked.
Make money where you can, use every loop hole to deny it to the cunts spending it like water on all the shitheels they're bringing in to replace you.
Fuck the IRS, fuck the intelligence agencies, fuck the u.s. government and everyone who ever benefited from it. Fuck the parties, the journalists, the news, and the DEI corporations, fuck the draft, and fuck your taxes.
@prototype ....not only is the economy fucked but those who are sucked in to the disinformation hole are unfazed, totally numb to the disaster already underway because their information and influence comes from academia, media, social venues and events and the most influential of all the unions, unions have the real control next to the corporations...a fucking minimum wage mud monkey bobbing for French fries in the deep fryer is now a rank & file member of a collective bargaining unit, a proud union nigger, the union is their god...$18.50 per hr and the union gets 3-5% of that hrly wage...these are useless eaters that do not expand the economy they're inflated ink on the GDP. 40 years ago the North American Steel industry began to unravel, from world supplier of structural steel, bridge beams, rail, tube, pipe, plate and coil, to the reduced domestic market...USS ,BETHLEHEM STEEL, SYDNEY STEEL, STELCO, and a half dozen I can't think of right now...Kanastan at one time had 7 steel mills, we had steel mills that dwarfed Americas, in Northern Ontario, Algoma Steel had the largest blast furnace in the world...2 mills remain stable and USS on life support although I heard it may have been acquired by Cleveland Cliffs...now couple this with the ham-strung oil and gas sector...the entire economy of the Industrialized West is on life support, only when the steel industry and oil and gas sectors come back will there be a stable viable economy. If the switch was thrown and all of a sudden steel, oil and gas took off...new steel mills and foundries, oil drilling, construction of oil upgraders, refineries, pipelines, pumping stations, infrastructure upgrades to facilitate the movement of product etc, if all of this kicked off right now there would be no qualified people to make it happen, at minimum 10years, realistically, 15years before a fresh batch of genetically uncorrupted human being is ready to economically rebuild the Industrialized West. Our problems are bigger than most realize. Kill the climate change hoax and EXECUTE all who are involved with it, (I AM DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT THE EXECUTION, THESE FREAKS ARE A CONTAGION THAT ESCAPED THE LAB, IT MUST BE CONTAINED AND DESTROYED) Right now it's CLOWN WORLD ON MARCHING POWDER, and no economy.
If the switch was thrown and all of a sudden steel, oil and gas took off...new steel mills and foundries, oil drilling, construction of oil upgraders, refineries, pipelines, pumping stations, infrastructure upgrades to facilitate the movement of product etc, if all of this kicked off right now there would be no qualified people to make it happen, at minimum 10years, realistically, 15years before a fresh batch of genetically uncorrupted human being is ready to economically rebuild the Industrialized West.
You act like 10-15 years is a long time. Thats not even 1/3rd of one generation.
I get what you're saying and all, however look at the value of 'minimum wage' labor pre-reagan. A $1.25 hour wage, in all silver quarters, was something like 21+ dollars an hour.
You can take a graph of the decline of the west, and a graph of the decline of labor value, and note a one-to-one correspondance between the fall of labor value and the fall of the west.
What you see instead is first the gutting of private unions, and the subsequent parasitical rise of public (government) unions. A dependent population is a subservient population.
Unions support middle classes, middle classes challenge government expansion/overreach.
If you doubt this, consider another example: post the black death, the value of labor rose dramatically, guilds formed (pre-modern unions), and the power of kings and states waned.
Meanwhile ask anyone who actually sees what is happening, and they'll tell you we're backsliding into (techno) feudalism, correlating directly with the fall in value of labor.
Why do you think, besides replacement, that third world countries with artificially boosted birth rates, have become a source of cheap imported labor?
Thats your real new world order right there. And the plan continues apace.
You can sort populist (anti-feudalists), real or erstwhile as it may be, from globalists, just on whether they support mass immigration or not.
Blue collar jobs in the New England area are fucked. Pay shit, literally have millions of illegals who will work for next to nothing , 20 bucks an hour is about it as far as factory/ warehouse type work. Rent is 1600-2k for a crappy 2 Br apartment, nevermind eating , or utilities. It's extremely challenging right now .
Companies put jobs on the market and catalogue when they do so. Then they refuse to return calls for the jobs for six months. Then they tell the government, “we’ve had this job on the market for the legally required time and we couldn’t find anyone to fill the position.” Then they get free H-1B immigrants to fill the position with no questions asked and special tax write-offs for hiring immigrants.
ProTip: If you want a job, walk into the place you want to work and start working. Eventually the boss is going to come around to see what the fuck this guy is doing here. Nobody is going to turn away a guy who landed $5,000 in sales before he was even interviewed.
The people who say the job market sucks are shithawks.
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:25:30 ago (+1/-0)
Don't sell the use of your mind and body to someone else unless you can't profitably use them yourself. But then you'll likely end up paying the jews a large share of your earnings to finance your own oppression.
Nothing is going to happen until the Oil and Gas sector fires back up, same here in Kanastan...Public Sector government jobs are forms of welfare and do nothing for the economy except fuck it up.
there has to be a way to undermine those fucking paycheck generating jobs that produce nothing
speaking of government paycheck generating entities. I have been hearing some people comment that nasa is some sort of useful entity....... people were saying back in the early 80s and definitely by the late 80s (i have old radio recordings of this) that nasa was a "paycheck generator". nasa hasn't done anything since the death of the Third Reichers that created it.
[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:04:47 ago (+1/-0)
The tech market has been lower than shit for the last 2.5 years. I think people are still spending but I get the idea it is pretty much all debt. Retail is doing ok, building, automotive, food/restaurants are too. I am not spending unless I have to and I think the population is very strapped, especially with inflation. Gen z has it worst by far. The boomers are retiring and living their best life - too bad they sold their own children to get it.
Yeah dude. i don't know how they survive. and the sexual degeneracy just blows away their brain and ability to function as a normal human due to all the fallout.
[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 23:17:39 ago (+1/-0)
Nah, I was thinking about the regular people just trying to get regular jobs and buy basic food and housing. Their personal issues are no business of yours or mine. I think many are probably really great people and probably very high functioning and virtuous. I would like to support those individuals.
Their personal issues are no business of yours or mine
yes their personal issue are my business, you faggot libertarian. don't force your beliefs onto me faggot. i don't want to be interacting with people who live like that; it fucks up a lot with a small amount of doing.
Mind yourself tootsie. I am not forcing my beliefs, just stating my opinion, you are welcome to your own. You are ever bit as bad as the left if you are going to have a tantrum. 😘
You are ever bit as bad as the left if you are going to have a tantrum
what a retarded false dichotomy fallacy.... if i feel like bashing your brains in i'm going to no matter what retarded thing you think about it. better to bash a retard's brains in than to let them continue influencing the world with their thoughts and actions.
fuck off retard, you're not on my team and i don't have your back. traitors get the rope first and you people absolutely need to be taken out, even before the jew
You are ever bit as bad as the left if you are going to have a tantrum
what a retarded false dichotomy fallacy.... if i feel like bashing your brains in i'm going to no matter what retarded thing you think about it. better to bash a retard's brains in than to let them continue influencing the world with their thoughts and actions.
fuck off retard, you're not on my team and i don't have your back. traitors get the rope first and you people absolutely need to be taken out, even before the jew
Well, it seems like you have some rage issues and are going through a rough patch with employment. I assure you that the guy minding his own business is the least of your worries. I hope things turn around for you.
their family. and its a hard one to explain that hey this new normal isn't the normal you were supposed to have but we need to work together to make it work.
people with fake jobs probably find it easier to get jobs and get paid well.
Labour and construction etc is all completely swamped with immigration rates to the point where a lot of labour places don't allow walk ins anymore.
It's probably similar for other white and blue collar jobs. The prerequisites for a lot of them aren't too extreme and immigrants who aren't disillusioned yet by our sickly dying society are actually willing to go through schooling and invest in their future.
I Live in one of the cheapest cities in North America, but everything has tripled in price in the last decade and the homeless rate is going through the roof.
At least the pakis are doing heists and other crazy shit to survive.
[ + ] HeavyBrain
[ - ] HeavyBrain 0 points 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 05:13:35 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 1 point 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 00:36:45 ago (+1/-0)
Most jobs are make-work. Something like a quarter of western GDP is funded by government spending.
Ten million fucking bureucrats slithering up everyone's asshole with regulations and micromanagement.
No one starts businesses because of the overhead of even starting one.
Shits fucked.
Make money where you can, use every loop hole to deny it to the cunts spending it like water on all the shitheels they're bringing in to replace you.
Fuck the IRS, fuck the intelligence agencies, fuck the u.s. government and everyone who ever benefited from it. Fuck the parties, the journalists, the news, and the DEI corporations, fuck the draft, and fuck your taxes.
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 08:52:28 ago (+0/-0)
If the switch was thrown and all of a sudden steel, oil and gas took off...new steel mills and foundries, oil drilling, construction of oil upgraders, refineries, pipelines, pumping stations, infrastructure upgrades to facilitate the movement of product etc, if all of this kicked off right now there would be no qualified people to make it happen, at minimum 10years, realistically, 15years before a fresh batch of genetically uncorrupted human being is ready to economically rebuild the Industrialized West.
Our problems are bigger than most realize.
Kill the climate change hoax and EXECUTE all who are involved with it, (I AM DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT THE EXECUTION, THESE FREAKS ARE A CONTAGION THAT ESCAPED THE LAB, IT MUST BE CONTAINED AND DESTROYED)
Right now it's CLOWN WORLD ON MARCHING POWDER, and no economy.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 0 points 5 monthsNov 14, 2024 14:50:13 ago (+0/-0)
You act like 10-15 years is a long time. Thats not even 1/3rd of one generation.
I get what you're saying and all, however look at the value of 'minimum wage' labor pre-reagan. A $1.25 hour wage, in all silver quarters, was something like 21+ dollars an hour.
You can take a graph of the decline of the west, and a graph of the decline of labor value, and note a one-to-one correspondance between the fall of labor value and the fall of the west.
What you see instead is first the gutting of private unions, and the subsequent parasitical rise of public (government) unions. A dependent population is a subservient population.
Unions support middle classes, middle classes challenge government expansion/overreach.
If you doubt this, consider another example: post the black death, the value of labor rose dramatically, guilds formed (pre-modern unions), and the power of kings and states waned.
Meanwhile ask anyone who actually sees what is happening, and they'll tell you we're backsliding into (techno) feudalism, correlating directly with the fall in value of labor.
Why do you think, besides replacement, that third world countries with artificially boosted birth rates, have become a source of cheap imported labor?
Thats your real new world order right there. And the plan continues apace.
You can sort populist (anti-feudalists), real or erstwhile as it may be, from globalists, just on whether they support mass immigration or not.
[ + ] SirNiggsalot
[ - ] SirNiggsalot 2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:37:00 ago (+2/-0)
Rent is 1600-2k for a crappy 2 Br apartment, nevermind eating , or utilities.
It's extremely challenging right now .
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:29:53 ago (+2/-0)
Then they refuse to return calls for the jobs for six months.
Then they tell the government, “we’ve had this job on the market for the legally required time and we couldn’t find anyone to fill the position.”
Then they get free H-1B immigrants to fill the position with no questions asked and special tax write-offs for hiring immigrants.
And that’s how the job market works.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 4 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 21:58:54 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:18:30 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:20:14 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 00:10:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 0 points 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 00:35:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 21:31:36 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] -1 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:01:18 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo -2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:57:22 ago (+0/-2)
Eventually the boss is going to come around to see what the fuck this guy is doing here.
Nobody is going to turn away a guy who landed $5,000 in sales before he was even interviewed.
The people who say the job market sucks are shithawks.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:04:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 0 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:37:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 5 monthsNov 13, 2024 16:01:13 ago (+0/-0)
@Gowithit is still salty
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=66fb42bd874d6
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:25:30 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:14:50 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:02:01 ago (+0/-0)
speaking of government paycheck generating entities. I have been hearing some people comment that nasa is some sort of useful entity....... people were saying back in the early 80s and definitely by the late 80s (i have old radio recordings of this) that nasa was a "paycheck generator". nasa hasn't done anything since the death of the Third Reichers that created it.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:04:47 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:13:23 ago (+0/-0)
Yeah dude. i don't know how they survive. and the sexual degeneracy just blows away their brain and ability to function as a normal human due to all the fallout.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:38:39 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 23:17:39 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] 1 point 5 monthsNov 14, 2024 00:16:57 ago (+1/-0)
yes their personal issue are my business, you faggot libertarian. don't force your beliefs onto me faggot. i don't want to be interacting with people who live like that; it fucks up a lot with a small amount of doing.
....fucking retarded cunt. fuck you.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 5 monthsNov 14, 2024 16:56:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 15, 2024 01:37:20 ago (+0/-0)
what a retarded false dichotomy fallacy.... if i feel like bashing your brains in i'm going to no matter what retarded thing you think about it. better to bash a retard's brains in than to let them continue influencing the world with their thoughts and actions.
fuck off retard, you're not on my team and i don't have your back. traitors get the rope first and you people absolutely need to be taken out, even before the jew
[ + ] DoYouEvenShit
[ - ] DoYouEvenShit [op] 0 points 5 monthsNov 15, 2024 01:37:33 ago (+0/-0)
what a retarded false dichotomy fallacy.... if i feel like bashing your brains in i'm going to no matter what retarded thing you think about it. better to bash a retard's brains in than to let them continue influencing the world with their thoughts and actions.
fuck off retard, you're not on my team and i don't have your back. traitors get the rope first and you people absolutely need to be taken out, even before the jew
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 5 monthsNov 15, 2024 06:14:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 22:32:32 ago (+0/-0)
their family. and its a hard one to explain that hey this new normal isn't the normal you were supposed to have but we need to work together to make it work.
Its fine just not what they were taught.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 2 points 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 23:19:02 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 1 point 5 monthsNov 12, 2024 20:04:35 ago (+1/-0)
Labour and construction etc is all completely swamped with immigration rates to the point where a lot of labour places don't allow walk ins anymore.
It's probably similar for other white and blue collar jobs. The prerequisites for a lot of them aren't too extreme and immigrants who aren't disillusioned yet by our sickly dying society are actually willing to go through schooling and invest in their future.
I Live in one of the cheapest cities in North America, but everything has tripled in price in the last decade and the homeless rate is going through the roof.
At least the pakis are doing heists and other crazy shit to survive.