So the evidence seems to be actually despite what this article says that Jews took over part of Egypt and far from being slaves they were the hated rulers. They were kicked out of yet another country being Egypt and they didn't run across the Red Sea they ran across the Reed sea. They weren't slaves they enslaved the Egyptians who got tired of their bullshit and kicked their asses out like millennia and millennia of people and Nations have done in the past. And of course the Jew like always claim the victim claimed they were slaves claimed they were abused when actually they were the despotic rulers that people hated and kicked out their fucking country.
Check out a writer named Jacob Wright. He is a jew who basically admits this about the Old Testament, i.e., that it was written in the Hellenistic period (long after fundamentalists want to date it) as a way for a people who had historically gotten their asses kicked (over and over and over) to formulate a national myth. Together with that, it basically borrowed all of its core literary forms from the cultures that were doing the ass-kicking. Once you see this, it all makes a lot of sense. There are several YouTube interviews of Wright with variations on the title "Why the Bible Was Written."
This theory explains several things: (1) the utter lack of archaeological evidence in support of any of the events portrayed in the O.T., (2) why the books feature story elements that look very Homeric (even the N.T. authors demonstrate clear familiarity with Greco-Roman literature), (2) the land-locked nature of the YHWH deity, (3) the asshole-ish nature of the YHWH deity, (4) the genocide fantasies (where the Israelites get to be the ones doing it), and many other aspects of the texts...
Jewish eschatology as a genre is basically a fantasy where they get to do to the world what they perceive has been done to them (a big aspect of being jewish is the inheritance of a racial memory of persecution, being literally an identity marker), except they're amalgamating a lot of things into a single event, so their 'enemy' becomes singular as well (i.e., "the Nations"). The entire Jewish religion is a psychosocial architecture for getting revenge.
It's more like a voice affirming something I've thought before. If you're suggesting that causing us to disbelieve the religion is a ploy to bring about their revenge, there is some sense-making to that. But you quickly run into this regress where that could be the 5D chess of making us worship the religion, and then there's 6D chess, and 7D chess, and so on. We have to reign our theories in according to some principle. I think the right one is something like Ockham's Razor. Don't multiply explanations more than is necessary to account for the data.
It's possible that some secular jews are telling the truth about the jewish religion. That doesn't mean they aren't jewish supremacists or that they aren't zionists. Or, they might be more liberal jewish anti-zionists. As far as I'm concerned re: the jewish problem, it isn't actually very helpful to try to parse jewish groups like this. He can be right about the religion, and that doesn't mean I need to call him a hero, of an intellectual sort or any other.
How many D chess would it be to understand that the Bible stands on it’s own merit, historically, prophetically, and spiritually, and that the entire two millennia long history of it underpinning the entirety of western civilisation - the best kind of civilisation by any metric - until the falling away of the modern era, the results of which are not good, stands as a ringing endorsement by the vast majority of the White race. If, as seems likely to me, the group you call ‘the jews’ were not actually of Israelite lineage, and that their rejection of Biblical scripture in favour of the Babylonian talmud is a logical outcome of this fact, would it not seem logical that they would want to undermine the successful practice of the perfect and divine instructions of God by another group that they had great hatred of?
I don't think the Bible does any such thing as stand on its own in the ways you said. That doesn't mean it isn't true, but the way that it's true has to be understood differently than describing reality historically. I also won't dispute that a Christian value framework is responsible for what most people think of as the West. For me, Christianity is primarily Greco-Roman in nature, and the reason the jews hate it (together with what it facilitated as far as White accomplishments) is because it is, to them, a Romanization of jewish beliefs. They believed it intellectually conquered many jews, so not only were they physically conquered, the Hellenistic world also spiritually 'conquered' many jews by luring them into classicaly pagan thought forms, including that of personal savior deities, which were unknown within judaism at least until quite late. Some people think Christianity was a development from a Hellenized jewish belief system, but I tend to think the situation is somewhat more extreme than that. I think its paganism given a jewish overlay.
[ - ] Theo 0 points 5 monthsNov 11, 2024 01:00:47 ago (+0/-0)
Some people think Christianity was a development from a Hellenized jewish belief system, but I tend to think the situation is somewhat more extreme than that. I think its paganism given a jewish overlay.
Christianity really doesn't have a single source of Jewish belief. There was the nationalist Nazarene sect and then there was the Herodian-Pharisee faction that was more accommodating towards Rome. The Narazeres were aligned with the Jewish King while the religious elites were aligned with Caesar.
[ - ] Theo 1 point 5 monthsNov 11, 2024 11:27:02 ago (+1/-0)
The one anticipated by the wise men of Matthew 2 and foreseen by Balaam.
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. Matthew 2:2
I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth. Numbers 24:17
For me, Christianity is primarily Greco-Roman in nature,
This is extremely obviously wrong. All it takes to know this is to read the Holy Scriptures.
and the reason the jews hate it (together with what it facilitated as far as White accomplishments) is because it is, to them, a Romanization of jewish beliefs. They believed it intellectually conquered many jews
So strange that you can say this but still persistently ascribe ownership and authority regarding Christianity to them. ??
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[ + ] CHIRO
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This theory explains several things:
(1) the utter lack of archaeological evidence in support of any of the events portrayed in the O.T.,
(2) why the books feature story elements that look very Homeric (even the N.T. authors demonstrate clear familiarity with Greco-Roman literature),
(2) the land-locked nature of the YHWH deity,
(3) the asshole-ish nature of the YHWH deity,
(4) the genocide fantasies (where the Israelites get to be the ones doing it),
and many other aspects of the texts...
Jewish eschatology as a genre is basically a fantasy where they get to do to the world what they perceive has been done to them (a big aspect of being jewish is the inheritance of a racial memory of persecution, being literally an identity marker), except they're amalgamating a lot of things into a single event, so their 'enemy' becomes singular as well (i.e., "the Nations"). The entire Jewish religion is a psychosocial architecture for getting revenge.
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[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 6 monthsNov 10, 2024 10:33:53 ago (+0/-0)
It's possible that some secular jews are telling the truth about the jewish religion. That doesn't mean they aren't jewish supremacists or that they aren't zionists. Or, they might be more liberal jewish anti-zionists. As far as I'm concerned re: the jewish problem, it isn't actually very helpful to try to parse jewish groups like this. He can be right about the religion, and that doesn't mean I need to call him a hero, of an intellectual sort or any other.
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer [op] 2 points 6 monthsNov 10, 2024 13:07:02 ago (+2/-0)
If, as seems likely to me, the group you call ‘the jews’ were not actually of Israelite lineage, and that their rejection of Biblical scripture in favour of the Babylonian talmud is a logical outcome of this fact, would it not seem logical that they would want to undermine the successful practice of the perfect and divine instructions of God by another group that they had great hatred of?
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[ + ] Theo
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Christianity really doesn't have a single source of Jewish belief. There was the nationalist Nazarene sect and then there was the Herodian-Pharisee faction that was more accommodating towards Rome. The Narazeres were aligned with the Jewish King while the religious elites were aligned with Caesar.
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[ + ] Theo
[ - ] Theo 1 point 5 monthsNov 11, 2024 11:27:02 ago (+1/-0)
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Matthew 2:2
I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.
Numbers 24:17
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This is extremely obviously wrong. All it takes to know this is to read the Holy Scriptures.
So strange that you can say this but still persistently ascribe ownership and authority regarding Christianity to them. ??
[ + ] doginventer
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