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Karl Marx didn't want to change the world. He wanted to destroy it.

submitted by Drstrangestgov to whatever 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 10:30:03 ago (+38/-0)     (whatever)


In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.


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[ - ] Clubberlang 11 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 10:55:32 ago (+11/-0)

I will feel equal to the Creator.

Aaaand you're in hell.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 6 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 10:56:12 ago (+6/-0)

Yup.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:44:35 ago (+2/-2)

Aaaand you're in hell.

It's funny when the people who are incapable of defining their own moral compass and need to rely on a book written by their ideological enemies to both trap them into slavery and give them purpose, by scaring them with the idea of a make-believe invisible magical sky wizard, don't realize they already exist in their own hypothetical worst nightmare, an outcome entirely of their own making.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 3 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 13:49:57 ago (+3/-0)

Lol I see what you did there. You suck, commie

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 15:53:58 ago (+0/-0)

Not believing in make believe makes someone a communist..?

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 16:06:26 ago (+0/-0)

Being a christian makes it so I can't say stupid shit?

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 16:29:24 ago (+0/-0)

Hah!

I guess it just makes you stupid.

Same difference.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 16:06:46 ago (+0/-0)

Being a christian makes it so I can't say stupid shit?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:52:55 ago (+1/-1)

No one is capable of defining their own moral compass. If everyoe were to define their own moral compass it would truly be hell on earth. Moral compass is defined by genetics and by compromise with the other 7 billion moral compasses each has to share the planet with. Maybe that compromise looks like christianity or some other ideology. But nobody is authoring their own moral playbook. Only psychopaths define their own moral compass.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 2 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:18:38 ago (+2/-0)

No one is capable of defining their own moral compass. If everyoe were to define their own moral compass it would truly be hell on earth.

Why, exactly? People who don't follow all the books (including your jew book, obviously) still manage to gather into tribes, and agree on critical facets of their homogeneous societies. They have before the books, they will after the books.

You go to such an extreme from reality here, it's impossible to take this statement seriously and so it sits firmly in the category of emotional diatribe.

But nobody is authoring their own moral playbook.

Everyone can. However, I believe you're taking this to an unintended extreme (I see a theme, here..).

Everyone can decide their own moral compass, and fits into groups of relatively proportionate to others who decide similarly. AKA your tribe. Additionally, yet equally importantly, everyone can change their moral compass by force of will alone, and either make new and/or join different tribes.

Only psychopaths define their own moral compass.

Absolute statement. Demonstrably false. Nothing really to reconcile, here, if we are just saying things that are untrue for fun.

[ - ] VitaminSieg 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 16:09:41 ago (+0/-0)

Nothing really to reconcile, here, if we are just saying things that are untrue for fun.

And now you understand PWH

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsJan 10, 2025 23:46:53 ago (+0/-0)*

Ok. I thought this was about some MGTOW/Wahmen suck post from last week. Boy, youre really hung up about this huh? 2 mos?

Why, exactly? People who don't follow all the books (including your jew book, obviously) still manage to gather into tribes, and agree on critical facets of their homogeneous societies. They have before the books, they will after the books.

I don’t have a jew book. Im an atheist. With a christian background. You shouldn’t assume that I’m Christian just because I am against moral chaos. When tribes agree on “critical facets”, why isn’t that a collective management of the moral compass? You think that’s what I meant by defining our own moral compasses? I meant the individual does not define the moral compass.

If a tribe/nation/society is collectively defining its morals, values, taboos— yes, that’s obviously collective managemnet of moral policy and not letting everyone “define their own moral compass.” All tribes and nations do this, whether they use books or not. Books allow for a more faithful snapshot of a tribe’s beliefs and moral policys to be transmitted to future generations. But it isn’t required. Moral policy and culture are an average behavior created by the genetics of many individuals.

You go to such an extreme from reality here,

Im not sure what you mean since you appear to be agreeing with me about tribes managing moral policy, not individuals.

Everyone can (author their own moral playbook). However, I believe you're taking this to an unintended extreme (I see a theme, here..).

Ok then maybe I decide its fine to murder people, or have sex with kids. Why can’t I do this? Is it because— book or no book— people would kill me or do grave harm to me? Part of our moral behavior is due to instinct (genetics) and the rest of our moral compass looks to the behaviors and beliefs of others in our society to fill in the blanks. We instinctually understand that going against group taboos is dangerous to us because of mob justice.

If someone wants to have sex with kids, they have to hide it. Most people will try to edit their own moral compass to fit in / be safe. The taboo against sex with kids is so strong in our culture, most people will not even consider whether they want to do it, or if it makes sense to do so. Sex with kids is an extreme example of a taboo, but it works the same with racism or drug use or the clothes we wear. It is very hard to hold beliefs that run counter to group policies, even if they are private beliefs. It is dangerous to do so, because the mob can come after any individual for being a “heretic” on any position ( in the broad sense) .

The basic dynamics of group moral behavior are universal. It’s not particular to judaism or christianity. Group moral behavior was shaped by our evolution, not the israelites. For instance, many atheists exemplify “puritanical” intolerance and proselytizing and crusading behaviors around their belief systems towards Christians. Its as if the “belief machine” in our craniums are a mad-lib. You can swap out Yahweh narritives for scientific establishment narratives, but you will still see analogous behaviors.

Morals are mostly genetic instinctual behaviors that evolved to benefit a group selection strategy. Humans are collectivists, not solitary animals. Everything you do affects my economic and reproductive potential. Group selection doesn’t work well if you are murdering members of your own tribe or having sex with its kids. There’s genetic variation in every group, so culture helps to manage that variation (i.e. some individuals want to have sex with kids but are threatened by retribution from the group.) Again, Im using pedophilia as an extreme example. Pot use also threatens group selection strategy, though the taboo is much weaker. Its the same principle. Why should I throw in with you economically (as in a tribe) if you choose to waste our group resources on pot? The point is, all moral choices affect the group, and more efficient groups will proscribe more moral choices to gain a competitive edge or improve group well being. I like to call that strategy “Whiteness”, but its not really exclusive to Whites.

everyone can change their moral compass by force of will alone, and either make new and/or join different tribes.

Free will is fake and gay. Its a religious superstition. Our behavior is based on genetics and environment.

It think I did answer this comment originally but the browser gobbled up my reply when it logged me out. I don’t like it when atheists try to smear and humiliate Christians as “heretics” while simultaneously trying to paint them as irrational. Its contradictory, you know? You should think about how morality works in the context of evolution instead of focusing on Christians as mean or hung up, as a lot of atheists do. You seem to hate books for some reason. I don’t know why. Charles Darwin wrote a book. The romans and greeks kept written laws. Why can’t we write down what we agree on?

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:23:29 ago (+1/-0)

Sometimes when the whole world of ideas goes under the microscope, many things can appear to be related

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 13:51:04 ago (+1/-0)

Or things are indeed connected at a microscopic level

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 14:30:05 ago (+1/-0)

Then there has to be a balance... I'm off to play pickleball. Forgot recording music was a totally different realm of time

[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 14:48:22 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 15:11:39 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] uvulectomy 5 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 13:40:10 ago (+5/-0)

Marx was a huge grifter, always mooching off of others, even while he was supposedly "fighting for the workers" and whatnot. Most people that knew him personally thought he was a cunt.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 3 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 13:48:38 ago (+3/-0)

The boils that plagued him were because his personal hygiene was nonexistent. He smelled like shit.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 14:33:35 ago (+3/-0)

Well, he was a jew.

[ - ] bohmoonx 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 22:36:50 ago (+0/-0)

You mean he was like Bernie Saunders?

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 4 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:18:51 ago (+4/-0)

Well, he thought all norms should be turned upside down... And here we are, with the lunatics running the asylum

[ - ] Sector2 3 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 15:02:03 ago (+3/-0)

Lunatics running our asylum would be less intentionally evil than our current norm.

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 4 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:16:30 ago (+4/-0)

Marxists are losers who can never build or create anything , and they are extremely jealous of those who can.

So, just kill those that have and take their shit.

That's my Cliff notes version

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 4 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 13:17:17 ago (+4/-0)

So they are basically jews? Cool, got it.

[ - ] con77 3 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 13:51:17 ago (+3/-0)

Satanic

[ - ] Cantaloupe 3 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:20:36 ago (+3/-0)

Those are the same Gnostic ideas the power mad use today. That a man can under go apotheosis via destruction of what is and leading the foolish to a simulacrum of what was.

Sound familiar?

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:54:35 ago (+1/-0)

Yup!

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 15:19:48 ago (+1/-0)

“He was a virulent racist and anti-Semite with a vicious temper (‘Jewish n****r’ was one of his favorite epithets).

Marx advocated the destruction of the Jews.

“The fact that the Jews of the world have become so strong as to endanger the life of the world causes us to disclose their organization, their purpose, that its stench might awaken the workers of the world to fight an eliminate such a canker” (Marx, writing for the New York Tribune, cited from Kevin Swanson, Apostate: The Men Who Destroyed the Christian West).

https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/karl_marx.php

But don't cheer yet...

"If that wasn’t horrible enough, Marx starved three of his children to death, five of his children died prematurely, and the two daughters who outlived him committed suicide” (Swanson, Apostate: The Men Who Destroyed the Christian West)."

This accounts for 7 out of 7 children with Jenny, whom he addresses in his poem - Human Pride.

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:15:37 ago (+1/-0)

this man ideology killed millions of people in the name of the proletariat. yes the same proles that he supposedly wanted to help. all suffered because of his shitty ideas

marx, engels, lenin, trosky, gramsci,castro, pol pot, mao and others like them should be burning in hell forever

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:18:45 ago (+1/-0)

But they cared so much for the people, lol

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:13:58 ago (+1/-0)*

iiiiiiiii dont want to set the woooooooorld on fiiiiiiiiiire.....

i just want to staaaaaaart a peaceful dialogue in your living rooooooooooooooooooom....

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:15:34 ago (+1/-0)

Ssssssssilly lil ssssssnake

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 2 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:20:06 ago (+2/-0)

Ye shall not surely die.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 2 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 12:57:05 ago (+2/-0)

I hope you aren't considering being a fruit salesman.

[ - ] SithEmpire 0 points 7 monthsNov 3, 2024 04:50:49 ago (+0/-0)

Microcosm of that: Remakes/reboots.

The guise is to increase the production quality, yet the objectives are several and related:

• "Claim" the intellectual property, and that this new version is canon and its author now owns it, exactly like that Creator comparison.

• Insert the communist/collectivist worldview, which means uggos, niggers and faggots. Generally "the message" and doing "the work".

• Destroy its legacy and gloat about it as demoralisation propaganda.

[ - ] Trope 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 21:34:28 ago (+0/-0)

He was a stupid liberal with a wealthy friend who owned a business. He hung out with his rich friend and shit-talked industrial society through the mid 1800s. I’m sure his writings would be irrelevant to the modern era if it weren’t for being propped up by the education system.

Also didn’t realize he was German and lived in London.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 21:54:07 ago (+0/-0)

Everybody knows an emo artsy fartsy kid. He was the first of his breed. You ever read the drek he produced?

[ - ] recon_johnny 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 18:39:08 ago (+0/-0)

Typical jew

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 14:56:16 ago (+0/-0)

What did he mean by "the world"? If he was talking about this evil and corrupt modern jewish society/civilization, it must be destroyed.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov [op] 1 point 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 15:40:40 ago (+1/-0)

Ohhhhh. Well. He managed it then I guess.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 7 monthsNov 2, 2024 11:45:47 ago (+0/-1)

I just read it and its not so bad.