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This is what will happen in the next election

submitted by prototype to whatever 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 21:14:48 ago (+12/-0)     (whatever)

Heres is what the final map will probably look like:
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/4u1zk2xb.png

Based on this:
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/t9zxyscf.png

Found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_election_results_by_state


I initially left georgia as a wild-card on the theory that once democrats are in office, it becomes hard to overcome them. However, theres another theory, that those states that swung for trump in 2020 will do so again in 2024.
Also georgia is historically red.

I doubled-down on this theory on the basis that if georgia was lock-in for harris she wouldn't have to focus so much on PA. But she is. Thats all we see. And the reason we see that is because her campaigns already decided georgia is all but lost for them.

I put almost no weight in voter sentiment over the last 4-8 years, only going by historic record.
For the bellweather model all the bellwethers stopped being accurate in 2004. They haven't been accurate since, at least on the state level.
This is all about first to 270, nothing else.

Now for counties:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_election_bellwether_counties_in_the_United_States
With the county bellwether system, you'll note of six presidential selections, they were all wrong.
Thats a collapse in accuracy to just 1.5%

I'd even say they've inverted, becoming a strong indicator of their opposite, at least in the current political configuration of the nation. Ohio, New Mexico, and Missouri, all going for Trump.

Going by just those three bellwethers, thats 32 points up for grab. Of which trump will comfortably claim 27. If the inversion model is correct, thats actually a 84.37% chance against trump, versus about a 1-in-6 chance against harris.

This doesn't account for the times bellwethers are wrong of course, but going by this:
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/ns4kgy95.png

If we multiply the odds and invert them, we get 0.920.930.96 = 0.821376
prediction accuracy. In other-words, we get a 82.1% accuracy when a candidate carries all three states, or about 1-in-5 odds in the inverted case.

But lets say we don't invert odds, and discounting the cumulative point affects, instead using the bellwhethers as intended.

With trump carrying missouri (96% accuracy, before 2004), and ohio (93% accuracy),
Because odds are always multiplied, we get 0.960.93 = 0.8928, or 89.28% chance of winning.
Carrying only NM, harris has a 92% chance of winning.

Of course this isn't exactly how odds work but I digress, its a simple analysis.

Whats that say?

It says either we will see a surprise upset in one of the undecided states, and/or one of the decided states that are 'solid red' or 'solid blue'. Discounting the unlikelihood of that (even considering voter sentiment on immigration, war, and economic policy),

But what are the signals here?
Look at how hard she's campaigning in
fucking pennsylvania.

Out of the eight last presidential elections, democrats were selected in seven of them.
Only voting red
once, for which president?
A state thats solid union. A state thats libshit central. The rural vote has become more important here than the city vote. And the republicans put on a strong showing, or at least maga-wearing-the-skinned-face-of-the-worthless-GOP-like-a-hannibal-lecter-mask (lol).

In otherwords, someone on the cocaine-orgy-train known as the kamala campaign realized the same thing I did: the states that voted for trump in 2020 are way more likely than surface appearance, to vote for him again, especially after four years of biden.

So rather than decide it at PA, lets leave PA as a toss-up for a moment.

Lets talk wisconsin and michigan.

For the past eight or nine elections they voted all blue, except again, for one election, donald trump in 2020.

As it stands harris is at 232, and trump is at 262.

Harris would need to take wisconsin, michigan, and PA to win, 6 points over 270.

if trump takes PA, he wins with 281 points, and then even with wisconsin and michigan, harris is only at 257 points.

Even with PA, she is unlikey to also take both wisconsin and michigan considering the last four years of biden, and trump managing to get the unions not to endorse a presidential candidate.

If PA goes blue, and michigan does too (with a last minute turnaround or endorsement of kamala), her campaign finishes with 266 points, and trump with 272.

In other words they're pinned on the fork of a dilemma.
trump only needs to take PA or wisconsin.
If kamala takes PA, she has to take michigan and wisconsin.

Heres a breakdown for those nodding along:
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/ffly6mpd.png

Under 9 circumstances, theres only one way she gets to 270+.

Now we know what the 'abolish the electoral college' outrage was about.
Now we know what packing the supreme court was about.
Now we know why they're worried about pennsylvania and early voting.

But will don be selected?

Listen I haven't been wrong about a presidential election (or a senate race, or a supreme court pick even despite all the controversy to keep kavanugh or that one catholic DEI convenience-pick whore) since george bush jr.

Heres what I think happens. Conservatively he initially wins the popular by six or seven points.

Voting gets dragged out and goes on for a whole month this time, or maybe three weeks, but longer than it did before in any case.

He 'loses' the popular vote, and wins the electoral vote (because this is how presidential selections work), or it is heavily reported in the media that he lost the popular vote. Whatever the case may be.

We go to war in mid november to late january, either in the middle east, in taiwan and asia, eastern europe, or something happens here in the u.s. to cancel elections (unlikely).

The riot model is rolled out for any number of reasons, take your pick: black church shot up by a 'white straight christian lunatic', another george floyd, another pandemic, cyberattack, whatever, doesn't really matter.

The elections are hotly contested.

One or more supremes either steps down "for personal reasons", or more likely 'switches sides' or is killed or badly injured, deferring to a subordinate.

The radio stations and media feed the flames.

The banks crash the economy under trump to feed it further, and along with the street violence, and threat of war, use it to force concessions from the GOP, politically paralyzing anything trump tries to do, essentially defering power to the mil-intelligence apparatus, not officially, but in practice, like happened under trump before.

And this will be the shape of the elections and the america to come.

Unless a few of the states throw us a curve ball, and swing blue, but given how worried the democrats are about PA, I suspect all their deals already fell through, otherwise they wouldn't be this desperate and afraid.

And this is how presidential selections are made to look like hotly contested presidential elections.


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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 5 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 22:33:24 ago (+5/-0)

We go to war in mid november to late january, either in the middle east, in taiwan and asia, eastern europe, or something happens here in the u.s. to cancel elections (unlikely).

But the election would already be over by that point.

politically paralyzing anything trump tries to do

You say that like he actually wants to do anything he says (other than order the military to kill anyone on Earth who says words critical of jews, which he has publicly said he wants to do).

how worried the democrats are about PA

Scripted to be.

otherwise they wouldn't be this desperate and afraid.

I’ve seen people cry on Full House. Were they really sad?

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:12:15 ago (+1/-0)

I’ve seen people cry on Full House. Were they really sad?

Sounds like that might be some kind of television show... Who would not be sad if they had to make money by presenting fake versions of themselves?

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:25:31 ago (+0/-0)

But the election would already be over by that point.

Would it matter?

You say that like he actually wants to do anything he says (other than order the military to kill anyone on Earth who says words critical of jews, which he has publicly said he wants to do).

I didn't say what he wants to do. I tried not to editorialize too much here.

Scripted to be.

All valid points.

I’ve seen people cry on Full House. Were they really sad?

The original title of this thread was "for those who follow the clownworld uniparty selections."
but I toned it down.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 07:49:29 ago (+1/-0)

Would it matter?

Well, it’s… already done. Future elections don’t matter to the narrative of “we have to cause a geopolitical event to stop this one.”

I tried not to editorialize too much here.

Fair enough.

The original title of this thread was "for those who follow the clownworld uniparty selections” but I toned it down.

Hey, it’s Voat. Never be afraid to do that. You don’t have to hide Truth here. It’s not a “suppository” that you have to mask as being a regular pill. It’s a fucking .50 BMG that needs to be forced into the body by any means.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 17:16:43 ago (+1/-0)

Hey, it’s Voat. Never be afraid to do that. You don’t have to hide Truth here. It’s not a “suppository” that you have to mask as being a regular pill.

People are still attached to elections as if they matter.
But it is still important that they receive the message.
There still needs to be plenty of people doing exactly what you do, which is forcing the message that elections don't matter, among other things.

But theres also an element to be proselytized who won't listen if alienated.
Some of us can handle the BMG-sized suppository, others choke on it.

Would that there were only a coordinated multifront organization that could craft more effective messaging and propaganda campaigns.

[ - ] NoRefunds 3 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 22:24:05 ago (+3/-0)

You actually think they're gonna let Trump win that's so cute.

Kamala is going to get the most votes in history just watch

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 04:27:54 ago (+0/-0)

I think the Supreme Court is sitting on a very pleasant “October surprise”

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 03:52:10 ago (+1/-0)

It literally all depends on who's scripted to win, and that's probably Trump, though it's possible they'll do another "look at how we're rigging things!" like 2020 to trigger civil war.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 06:02:46 ago (+0/-0)

though it's possible they'll do another "look at how we're rigging things!" like 2020 to trigger civil war.

that was my assumption, but only just.

[ - ] HotBakedDinuMuffinSaint 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:27:50 ago (+1/-0)

I suspect your name ends with an L.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:30:22 ago (+0/-0)*

I suspect your name ends with an L.

Would it matter what my last name ends with?

As my boss says you can't put too many one size fits all jackets on Americans.

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:23:22 ago (+1/-0)

I can't find any interest in the selection, or for anyone taking it seriously.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:52:49 ago (+0/-0)

Kike theater is all reruns.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 22:25:22 ago (+1/-0)

The old lady election workers were pretty shady last time. They remarked I'm an R, as they handed out sharpies

[ - ] texasblood 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 21:55:17 ago (+1/-0)

:burp

[ - ] Breeder 0 points 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 05:53:36 ago (+0/-0)

That's a lot of words to say "it's all fake and gayc

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 06:03:42 ago (+0/-0)

That's a lot of words to say "it's all fake and gayc

thanks for the poetic summary.

[ - ] HatefulHomelessMan 0 points 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 02:22:24 ago (+0/-0)

The deep state does not want trump in office; if he really is going to make an attempt to downsize the corrupt institutions, but more likely than not, if he lives until January and the ballot dumps at 3am aren't enough to drag the dumb skank across the finish line and trmp "wins" he'll just make deals to sell out the American people and after he dies of natural causes in a couple years it'll be back to the seme old establishment shabbogoys and straight traitor jews holding all the reigns of power. heil america.

[ - ] TheSimulacra 0 points 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 01:50:59 ago (+0/-0)

Faggot. You said that your code was going to end civilization months ago.

Nothing you wrote above matters in the slightest.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 30, 2024 02:38:37 ago (+1/-0)*

You said that your code was going to end civilization months ago. Nothing you wrote above matters in the slightest.

That is correct.

Try not to get caught up in the waiting.

But believe me when I say I am working. Even when busy with a dozen other things, even when standing still.

And if you wanted it to happen faster you would help me.

If a mere inchoate fool like me could make the progress thats been made, imagine how much further we would be if even a single person along the road that I asked to assist in the math and research had done so.

No one rose to the challenge, no matter how many times I offered or asked, so I am left to guesstimate progress, and fight every battle alone.

And still I do.
And ask nothing of you in return, neither in promise for my future success, nor in exchange for current progress.

Stand and be counted, however you may, or be seated and remain silent. Because the day will come you will know my works were and are true.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:05:58 ago (+0/-0)

They can steal all those swing states like they did last time. Cmon.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:26:17 ago (+0/-0)

They can steal all those swing states like they did last time. Cmon.

That assumes this isn't a scripted sideshow, and that trump hasn't been selected to play the leading role.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:27:55 ago (+0/-0)

Then what is the point in analyzing polls?

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 23:29:21 ago (+0/-0)

Then what is the point in analyzing polls?

Reading the bird guts for fun.