It assumes the incompatibility of the two things it's comparing from the outset.
Because Catholicism does this of it's own accord, again, with its abominable doctrines and worships and their works based false gospel.
It is the whole of Christianity itself.
No, it is not. It is a pagan syncretistic religion, following after the footsteps of the Roman and Greek pantheon in amalgamating their practices and worship of their gods; a similitude of Christianity, hoping to fool the masses in Christ's stead. The definition of an anti-Christ religion.
Which is to say that there is something called the Christian faith that we all have to adhere to, this thing that Jesus instantiated through his life and teachings.
This is called God's Word, which was given so that we may believe on the Father in heaven who sent Him.
It's not called 'the church' that we may be subordinate to men and believe doctrines of men by faith.
So if we analogize the faith to the category like, 'fruit', then we can say that fruit is to apple what the faith is to a particular denomination.
Literally only 1:24 into the video and here is the first issue; false equivalency
Which I CALLED from only watching until 0:42. "watch the whole thing, WAAAA"
No. The Catholic Church is not 'THE WHOLE OF THE FAITH'. Which is what he's equating it to. Thus a false equivalency.
People tend to think of Catholicism, if they're not Catholic, but even a few Catholics do this as well, as just one species among a variety of perfectly valid examples of the genus Christianity or it's just one denomination among all the rest but that's not what Catholicism is or how it defines itself. 2:01-2:20
Yes, I'm well aware of how the beast tries to define itself.
This is exactly why I stopped watching earlier at 0:42 seconds. The delusion is strong with this one.
The Catholic Church is blatant about it's blasphemies. The fact that you are oblivious to these tells me that you are blinded by the God of this world; thus you do not believe. 2 Corinthians 4:4
AI non-sense hypothetical, attempt at 'there's some truth in all religions' ecumenism
..because that's the grave mistake that always gets made by anybody attempting to capture or corral truth itself in some narrow portion or expression of the truth.
Jesus IS the Truth, and it IS the narrow path. John 14:6, Matthew 7:13-14
All heresies are an attempt to reduce the truth into some easy to digest portion.
Like 'Peter is the rock not Jesus!'...
Something easily packaged in something like a slogan like 'faith alone'.
See how he can't help but attack the faith. Grace by faith that God will do what he has promised, believe only.
Catholicism teaches works based salvation.
Catholicism teaches that you are not saved if you do not do things and continue to do things that they command, precepts of men taught as doctrine of God.
But truth itself is far too big to have definite borders placed around it as if we can reduce the eternal truth into a portion size fit for our finite systems of thought.
This is a form of the Appeal to ignorance fallacy. That we somehow cannot know.
No. This is not what the bible tells us; every mention of a 'mystery' is met with the explanation that is subsequently given to us.
We can know because we believe God's Word.
G.K. Chesterton quote, St. Ignatius appeal, 'muh church father', 'He was trained by someone who wrote scripture and knew Jesus intimately in his earthly life.'
Funny how he doesn't quote the Word of God, because it's the Holy Spirit that is to bring us into all truth. John 16:13
The anointing we receive of God is that which abideth in us, that is the Holy Spirit, that same anointing teacheth us all things. 1 John 2:27
If a church you're evaluating or maybe your particular church doesn't have bishops who can trace some kind of meaningful pedigree to the apostles you might be outside the bounds of the fullness of the faith.
"It's all by genetics and lineage, goy! We're the 'Jews'!"
That's what this sounds like. That's how you sound.
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. - Matthew 23:9
But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. - Mark 10:42-43
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. - Matthew 6:19-21
All of this wisdom, for us to see and read and know, but instead you sound like the Pharisees when they say, "We have Abraham to our father!". Matthew 3:9
The church that preserves all doctrines, mysteries and all and doesn't leave anything out to make it easier to digest.
And there's the blatant lie, exactly what I knew this video was about. (which I've already expanded upon)
And this eventually became what has been considered one of the marks of the church in the Nicean Creed, which are One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.
Once again, precepts of men taught for doctrines of God.
You know who else has marks right?... The beast followers.
This is only 6 minutes, 44 seconds in...
We get this from the council of Nicea, which also gave us the doctrine of the Trinity.
LOL. Not entirely sure that was a good thing, upon reflection. (headiness, high-mindedness where they ought not)
So within those four marks it immediately disqualifies most denominations.
'disqualifies most denominations' -> worldly institutions, just like the Catholic Church.
"But you don't understand, they've given themselves that authority by wresting one passage of scripture to mean that, they can just decide it's so, because of muh fathers and muh lineage."
This is abomination and without the Holy Spirit.
God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Matthew 3:9
One; means oriented towards unity which according to John 17 was Christ's dying prayer.
I urge you to read John 17 and tell me what Jesus gave us...
Hint: it wasn't the 'Catholic Church'.
For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. - John 17:8
If your denomination is habitually splintering or the progeny of several steps of division, then it isn't oriented towards unity.
"muh institutions of man are the determination of Christ on earth or you're not united, not the presence of the Holy Spirit or belief!"
Does it retain the authority that the apostles possessed themselves? Most churches don't even believe such an authority exists.
LOL, of course most churches do not, because that's an extra-biblical doctrine.
Do you even know where the term Authority comes from? Author. Who is the Author?
The Holy Spirit, through men. 2 Peter 1:21 (lol, Peter!)
Not some institution of men known as the Catholic Church.
Heed Peter's Words; 2 Peter 1:
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
It is at this point that I am thinking, "That was 7:38 of watching... Let me know if you want me to tear apart the rest."
But you want me to go the whole mile... Well, let's go 2 miles (typing all of this out along with watching it).
In denominational Christianity you'll get portrayals of portions of the whole church but never quite the whole.
Who gets to decide this? Well obviously Catholics, right? because they defined themselves to be the rulers with bad exegesis...
This is the actual "muh real christianity" right here, not what I do, which is preach the gospel.
some who do a,b,c,d,e,f, but muh Catholicism means tha Whole!
No.
How do you know what the Christian faith is?
By hearing preaching. Romans 10:17, 1 Corinthians 1:18-19, Acts 8:30-31, Matthew 11:5, Mark 16:15, Luke 4:18
That was a question that was so important to me because as a newly minted Christian I wanted to know what the Christian faith was and I was getting different perspectives from all these different churches.
And where did he go? To God?...
How do you know what doctrines and practices are admissible and which should be excluded?
By the Word of God. Which is not of private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20
Did Jesus appoint you and I with the 'authority' needed to make those kinds of decisions or did he set you under a particular authority to reveal that to you?
Already went over this, this is just more rehashing of his musings while ignoring what scripture says on the matter.
anecdote "almost all Christians I know of"...
What is the Whole true faith, or what is the Catholic Church?
More rehashing of the false equivalency fallacy.
As a Catholic we say the magisterium and the apostolic tradition (of which there is none outside of the cannon of scripture) handed down through the ages and protected by the church as well as the holy scripture. Now notice...
LOL I had to cut that off there; 'Now notice' how he says 'magisterium' (a word not found in the bible) and 'apostolic tradition' were 'protected by the church', and notice how he says 'AS WELL' as the holy scripture, not God...
For the bible says, not one jot or one tittle will perish until all of the law is fulfilled. This is protected by God's promise, not an institution of men. Matthew 5:18
We're at 10 minutes, friend! 9 more minutes left!
Why do they do that, because the bible does that.
No, the bible never gives the authority over to an institution of men. It is between the Holy Spirit and holy men of God speaking as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:21
The Bible doesn't ever say that IT is the only authority or even the highest authority.
Yes it does. Matthew 28:17-20, John 1:1,14, Hebrew 11:3, Colossians 1:16, Colossians 2:9, Philippians 2:6-10
It's because the bible never even refers to itself. Never once in scripture does it say anything about 'the bible'.
... He literally just did that. He's really going to lie like that, trying to hide the answer in his own lie.
The Bible constantly refers to itself as 'Scripture' and 'the Law' and 'the Commandments' and 'Prophecy' and 'Teaching' and 'Doctrine', and most importantly and encompassing, 'God's Word'.
...called the Bible which is a specific understanding of scripture based on...
No. It is the Word of God.
Said it from the beginning. Catholicism preaches another gospel, it is accursed.
'muh son'
Ignoring the Son of God, the Word who became flesh...
'muh some consider other things to be scriptural'
'almost all Christians agree'
Appeal to the people fallacy.
Whether they know it or not, there's a middleman between them and their highest authority...
The man Christ Jesus... 1 Timothy 2:5
...and that's the Catholic Church.
Complete or Whole/(Catholic) apostasy...
'wrong exegesis of Matthew 16:18 and misc. other wrong understandings'
And here we are in John's gospel with Jesus giving the unique authority of God to the church.
In the Holy Spirit in us... Which you only have if you believe in Jesus, not the man-made pagan syncretistic institution of the Catholic Church and their wicked exegesis.
The writing of scripture which we all agree is infallible proves that God can use human beings to be his mouthpiece and preserve them from error in doing so proves that the church at least in that instance had infallible authority to teach.
Tautologically defining the Apostles as the Catholic Church is pathetic.
And If you agree that it's infallible then what I've said is correct by reference of the scripture itself.
But they don't believe that. So they have to add to the Word of God.
This is just lip-service. Speaking out of two sides of your mouth. Lying.
..establish a living authority who can always clarify interpretations of revelation and resolve any new controversy that arise...
AKA he doesn't believe in the Holy Spirit who is alive and will guide us into all truth.
Anyone who picks up a bible and thinks they have direct access to God's revelation, I mean, let's be honest, you're, they're kidding themselves.
HAHAHA WOOOOOOOW!
Say the quite part out loud, why don't you?!
They only know it's scripture because the church told them...
Sounds a lot like Master_Foo! LOL
Yeah, sure, no such thing as the Holy Spirit, guy! /s
Disgusting. But to be expected from the 'wisdom of this world'.
And they only know how to read it because 'someone' translated the ancient Greek and Hebrew for them.
Yeah, because there's no way that God would be able to direct his children otherwise, right? Had to be man to do it? God couldn't have prepared this for us, could he have? /s
Furthermore, it's not like God couldn't have directly given his children the gift of tongues to speak or to understand such things, could he have? /s
Total denial of the power of God, this Catholic has. 2 Timothy 3:5
'muh supreme taco authority of the pope'
'muh authority over the believers just like the gentiles'
Again, against Luke 22:24-26 and Matthew 20:25-27.
Whenever I hear the case against Catholicism from non-Catholics they're always things like, 'oh, the bible says call no man father' or 'It's wrong to pray to the dead', or 'Where is the immaculate conception in the bible' or 'Where are the seven sacraments in the bible'.
Which are legitimate, all the while you ignore dozens of other issues...
case closed
I'd definitely say so. This multi-page treatise on this abhorrent video certainly gets the point across if you can read, I think.
last minute: Financial hawking
Buy my wares! Muh real-estate! LOL, Like, comment, and subscribe, guise!
DONE with that trash!
Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as the Word made flesh, as the rock, as the foundation upon which the church is built, as your savior and your God.
Repent of the false beliefs and idolatry of the Catholic Church and believe on Jesus for the eternal salvation of your soul.
I throw my bitty bits of support to the Catholics trying to undo that Marxist abomination of Vatican II.
The Vatican became an international banker in 1942. THe Chinese communist party is an international banker, and the entire jew clan is an international banker.
I'd like to dispose of the non profit bribery of religious organizations that tore up the Protestant churches so bad, and that of course means BAN JEWS.
Because YOU drink the protestant Flavor-aid! You CAN'T and WON'T accept Truths that show that Catholicism IS the Church that Christ founded! MATTHEW 16:16-20 (Douay-Rheims Bible)
THIS IS THE FOUNDING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! From which you & your people broke from!
Correct. Christ founded the catholic (universal) church of christians who take their instruction in their own language from the bible and confess straight to god, NOT the Catholic (non universal) Church (TM) of pagans who take their instruction in latin from the catholic encyclopedia and confess to a dirty old man in a cassock.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 08:19:34 ago (+0/-0)*
Because Catholicism does this of it's own accord, again, with its abominable doctrines and worships and their works based false gospel.
No, it is not. It is a pagan syncretistic religion, following after the footsteps of the Roman and Greek pantheon in amalgamating their practices and worship of their gods; a similitude of Christianity, hoping to fool the masses in Christ's stead. The definition of an anti-Christ religion.
This is called God's Word, which was given so that we may believe on the Father in heaven who sent Him.
It's not called 'the church' that we may be subordinate to men and believe doctrines of men by faith.
Literally only 1:24 into the video and here is the first issue;
false equivalency
Which I CALLED from only watching until 0:42. "watch the whole thing, WAAAA"
No. The Catholic Church is not 'THE WHOLE OF THE FAITH'. Which is what he's equating it to. Thus a false equivalency.
Yes, I'm well aware of how the beast tries to define itself.
This is exactly why I stopped watching earlier at 0:42 seconds. The delusion is strong with this one.
The Catholic Church is blatant about it's blasphemies.
The fact that you are oblivious to these tells me that you are blinded by the God of this world; thus you do not believe. 2 Corinthians 4:4
Jesus IS the Truth, and it IS the narrow path. John 14:6, Matthew 7:13-14
Like 'Peter is the rock not Jesus!'...
See how he can't help but attack the faith. Grace by faith that God will do what he has promised, believe only.
Catholicism teaches works based salvation.
Catholicism teaches that you are not saved if you do not do things and continue to do things that they command, precepts of men taught as doctrine of God.
This is a form of the Appeal to ignorance fallacy. That we somehow cannot know.
No. This is not what the bible tells us; every mention of a 'mystery' is met with the explanation that is subsequently given to us.
We can know because we believe God's Word.
Funny how he doesn't quote the Word of God, because it's the Holy Spirit that is to bring us into all truth. John 16:13
The anointing we receive of God is that which abideth in us, that is the Holy Spirit, that same anointing teacheth us all things. 1 John 2:27
"It's all by genetics and lineage, goy! We're the 'Jews'!"
That's what this sounds like. That's how you sound.
But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. - Mark 10:42-43
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. - Matthew 6:19-21
All of this wisdom, for us to see and read and know, but instead you sound like the Pharisees when they say, "We have Abraham to our father!". Matthew 3:9
And there's the blatant lie, exactly what I knew this video was about. (which I've already expanded upon)
Once again, precepts of men taught for doctrines of God.
You know who else has marks right?... The beast followers.
This is only 6 minutes, 44 seconds in...
LOL. Not entirely sure that was a good thing, upon reflection. (headiness, high-mindedness where they ought not)
'disqualifies most denominations' -> worldly institutions, just like the Catholic Church.
"But you don't understand, they've given themselves that authority by wresting one passage of scripture to mean that, they can just decide it's so, because of muh fathers and muh lineage."
This is abomination and without the Holy Spirit.
God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Matthew 3:9
I urge you to read John 17 and tell me what Jesus gave us...
Hint: it wasn't the 'Catholic Church'.
"muh institutions of man are the determination of Christ on earth or you're not united, not the presence of the Holy Spirit or belief!"
LOL, of course most churches do not, because that's an extra-biblical doctrine.
Do you even know where the term Authority comes from? Author. Who is the Author?
The Holy Spirit, through men. 2 Peter 1:21 (lol, Peter!)
Not some institution of men known as the Catholic Church.
Heed Peter's Words; 2 Peter 1:
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
It is at this point that I am thinking, "That was 7:38 of watching... Let me know if you want me to tear apart the rest."
But you want me to go the whole mile... Well, let's go 2 miles (typing all of this out along with watching it).
Who gets to decide this? Well obviously Catholics, right? because they defined themselves to be the rulers with bad exegesis...
This is the actual "muh real christianity" right here, not what I do, which is preach the gospel.
No.
By hearing preaching. Romans 10:17, 1 Corinthians 1:18-19, Acts 8:30-31, Matthew 11:5, Mark 16:15, Luke 4:18
And where did he go? To God?...
By the Word of God. Which is not of private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20
Already went over this, this is just more rehashing of his musings while ignoring what scripture says on the matter.
More rehashing of the false equivalency fallacy.
LOL I had to cut that off there; 'Now notice' how he says 'magisterium' (a word not found in the bible) and 'apostolic tradition' were 'protected by the church', and notice how he says 'AS WELL' as the holy scripture, not God...
For the bible says, not one jot or one tittle will perish until all of the law is fulfilled. This is protected by God's promise, not an institution of men. Matthew 5:18
We're at 10 minutes, friend! 9 more minutes left!
No, the bible never gives the authority over to an institution of men. It is between the Holy Spirit and holy men of God speaking as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:21
Yes it does. Matthew 28:17-20, John 1:1,14, Hebrew 11:3, Colossians 1:16, Colossians 2:9, Philippians 2:6-10
... He literally just did that. He's really going to lie like that, trying to hide the answer in his own lie.
The Bible constantly refers to itself as 'Scripture' and 'the Law' and 'the Commandments' and 'Prophecy' and 'Teaching' and 'Doctrine', and most importantly and encompassing, 'God's Word'.
No. It is the Word of God.
Said it from the beginning. Catholicism preaches another gospel, it is accursed.
Ignoring the Son of God, the Word who became flesh...
Appeal to the people fallacy.
The man Christ Jesus... 1 Timothy 2:5
Complete or Whole/(Catholic) apostasy...
In the Holy Spirit in us... Which you only have if you believe in Jesus, not the man-made pagan syncretistic institution of the Catholic Church and their wicked exegesis.
Tautologically defining the Apostles as the Catholic Church is pathetic.
And If you agree that it's infallible then what I've said is correct by reference of the scripture itself.
But they don't believe that. So they have to add to the Word of God.
This is just lip-service. Speaking out of two sides of your mouth. Lying.
AKA he doesn't believe in the Holy Spirit who is alive and will guide us into all truth.
HAHAHA WOOOOOOOW!
Say the quite part out loud, why don't you?!
Sounds a lot like Master_Foo! LOL
Yeah, sure, no such thing as the Holy Spirit, guy! /s
Disgusting. But to be expected from the 'wisdom of this world'.
Yeah, because there's no way that God would be able to direct his children otherwise, right? Had to be man to do it? God couldn't have prepared this for us, could he have? /s
Furthermore, it's not like God couldn't have directly given his children the gift of tongues to speak or to understand such things, could he have? /s
Total denial of the power of God, this Catholic has. 2 Timothy 3:5
Again, against Luke 22:24-26 and Matthew 20:25-27.
Which are legitimate, all the while you ignore dozens of other issues...
I'd definitely say so. This multi-page treatise on this abhorrent video certainly gets the point across if you can read, I think.
Buy my wares! Muh real-estate! LOL, Like, comment, and subscribe, guise!
DONE with that trash!
Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as the Word made flesh, as the rock, as the foundation upon which the church is built, as your savior and your God.
Repent of the false beliefs and idolatry of the Catholic Church and believe on Jesus for the eternal salvation of your soul.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 07:01:43 ago (+0/-0)
The Vatican became an international banker in 1942. THe Chinese communist party is an international banker, and the entire jew clan is an international banker.
I'd like to dispose of the non profit bribery of religious organizations that tore up the Protestant churches so bad, and that of course means BAN JEWS.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -2 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:34:15 ago (+0/-2)
Catholicism is NOT Christian, it is specifically anti-Christ by it's own abominable doctrine and worship.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] -1 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:37:20 ago (+1/-2)*
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -2 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:38:37 ago (+0/-2)
And so you become just like the false idols you worship.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] -2 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:43:31 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -1 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:45:09 ago (+0/-1)
He's liar.
You are spiritually blind.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:51:13 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:54:28 ago (+0/-0)
It's because you have no foundation and cannot justify your abominable 'church' with any sort of rationality.
Show me where Christ founded the 'Catholic Church'.
You can't because YOU add to the bible, YOU add to the word. YOU worship a man YOU call father!
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:58:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -1 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 03:59:56 ago (+0/-1)
I watched enough of that garbage to see that your video features a liar.
Use your own words and cite the Bible. Prove it. You can't because the Catholic Church is an abomination.
The only thing Catholicism has is claims. No proof, and certainly no Holy Spirit.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark [op] 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 04:09:52 ago (+0/-0)
THIS IS THE FOUNDING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! From which you & your people broke from!
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 7 monthsOct 24, 2024 06:01:46 ago (+1/-1)
Big difference.