A) What's the point in tracking them if you're going to "gas and incinerate" them? B) They are, by their own words and deeds, masters of deception. (see Mossad motto) C) A number tattoo was a free pass to enter many foreign nations under "persecution" status. D) All the numbers are in the same range of a "scary" 5 or 6 digits. E) They all look like they were done by the same traveling rabbi at synagogues in eastern Europe with a cheap buzz needle and a pocketful of ink.
They probably put those tattoos on themselves to promote their victim narrative.
It was only done with those with useful skills for the war effort. When they were transferred to another camp that needed particular skills, they were tattooed in order to make sure the correct person with the particular skill showed up. The Germans were well aware of how jew lie as naturally as breathing, and if they weren't physically marked, it would have been easy for someone to take another person's identity for whatever reason.
EDIT: I retract what I said. The Germans didn't tattoo anyone. Please see my comment about CW Porter.
I recently saw a comic about some exterminator numbering the bugs before they killed them. The other guy was saying ‘why would you spend all that time numbering them if you’re just going to kill them?’ I’ll have to try to find that one again, should have saved it.
As anyone here who has ever receive a tattoo, it's like minor surgery and requires wound care. Plus, you can't re-use the needle until it's been sterilized unless you want to spread blood-borne diseases throughout the camp.
I was reading about tattooing in the Holocaust Deprogramming Course (no longer on line as a web site, but you can find it at archive.org). There is a link to a site by a fellow named CW Porter, which is no longer active, but his content is now part of JR's Books Online, a terrific resource for books we all need and read.
JR is pretty generous about sharing digital copies, but sales of physical books helps keep his site going, so buy some books from him and keep him going.
I'm sorry, I overlooked your comment. Yes, that's what I was talking about. The original site is gone, but it's been archived all over the place, including at archive.org.
If anyone living has a tattoo, he definitely did it himself. If he was 20 in 1945, that would make him 99 today. Just remember that anyone who was actually in a camp is now dead.
Yes, but not everyone was tattooed, only those with useful skills who were sent to different camps where there was a labor shortage in particular skills. That was the entire purpose of assigning people numbers, so that their work skills could be used for the war effort. A two-year old would never have been tattooed.
EDIT: I retract what I said. The Germans didn't tattoo anyone. Please see my comment about CW Porter.
Look at photos from concentration camps, no tattoos anywhere except for a handful of individual people explicitly showing them off. There's none to be seen in group photos of prisoners and photos before liberation.
The numbers also don't seem to follow any standards. For example in some photos, some tattoos start with A- then numbers, while others are just numbers. Feel like the Germans would have had a numbering system in place standard throughout the camps. But why would you use a system of ID that would have been so easy for the camp inmates to alter or falsify as well? We know there were prisoners in the camps doing tattoos.
They only tattooed prisoners with valuable skills needed for the war effort. It was common to transfer prisoners to different camps where their skills were needed.
EDIT: I retract what I said. The Germans didn't tattoo anyone. Please see my comment about CW Porter.
That's an interesting theory. Definitely one worth exploring and the reasons they'd do that. Obviously for some type of victim status. I don't think even they could've anticipated the run they'd have with the whole holohoax. I'm actually surprised they haven't thought up a new holy day to celebrate how long they've been getting away with it!
[ + ] HelenHighwater
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I do believe that the numbers were generated by IBM hardware. Yes teh idea was to make them accountable for their actions.
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EDIT: I retract what I said. The Germans didn't tattoo anyone. Please see my comment about CW Porter.
https://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/tattoo1.htm
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[ + ] SteppingRazor
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I’ll have to try to find that one again, should have saved it.
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[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
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https://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/tattoo1.htm
As anyone here who has ever receive a tattoo, it's like minor surgery and requires wound care. Plus, you can't re-use the needle until it's been sterilized unless you want to spread blood-borne diseases throughout the camp.
I was reading about tattooing in the Holocaust Deprogramming Course (no longer on line as a web site, but you can find it at archive.org). There is a link to a site by a fellow named CW Porter, which is no longer active, but his content is now part of JR's Books Online, a terrific resource for books we all need and read.
JR is pretty generous about sharing digital copies, but sales of physical books helps keep his site going, so buy some books from him and keep him going.
[ + ] SteppingRazor
[ - ] SteppingRazor 1 point 6 monthsOct 24, 2024 12:20:43 ago (+1/-0)
https://radiochristianity.com/holocaust-deprogramming-course/
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https://archive.org/details/holo-deprogramming-course_202212/page/n3/mode/2up
I recommend everyone save a copy and read it. There's a LOT in there and it's a useful reference tool.
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EDIT: I retract what I said. The Germans didn't tattoo anyone. Please see my comment about CW Porter.
https://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/tattoo1.htm
[ + ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior
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Look at photos from concentration camps, no tattoos anywhere except for a handful of individual people explicitly showing them off. There's none to be seen in group photos of prisoners and photos before liberation.
The numbers also don't seem to follow any standards. For example in some photos, some tattoos start with A- then numbers, while others are just numbers. Feel like the Germans would have had a numbering system in place standard throughout the camps. But why would you use a system of ID that would have been so easy for the camp inmates to alter or falsify as well? We know there were prisoners in the camps doing tattoos.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
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EDIT: I retract what I said. The Germans didn't tattoo anyone. Please see my comment about CW Porter.
https://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/tattoo1.htm
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