Genetically and linguistically they're not Aryan, but Jewgle images show them looking fairly white. The infogalactic article on them makes them seem alright, love of freedom, successfully resisting the mongol hoards, fighting the khazars, etc. Adopting islam is a strike. Finns aren't Aryan either, but I think the majority of us would consider them white. I've never met a Chechen, so I really have no idea. Russian bros want to weigh in? Are Chechens white?
Side note: "Caucasian" properly refers to Vainakh people, of which Chechens are one. Caucasians are are not Aryan. Intentional misnaming by jewish academics is deracination.
Muhammad was White. He had green eyes and red hair, so that shouldn't really matter. The reason most dune coons are mud people is because they bred with nigger slaves. It's a lesson in miscegenation if anything.
No I think the greeks didn’t arrive in central asia for several centuries after the Buddha lived. But the Vedic elites of northern India were from Sintashta culture which was an offshoot of corded ware ( i.e. White europeans.)
White is not a scientific term. It's a social construct. Racial ethnic markers are distinguished by terms like Caucasian because one of the theories for the origin of Aryans is the Caucasus. It may be wrong, but that's where it comes from. Religion and race have nothing to do with each other.
You sound like some Stormfront loser who's never read an academic book on race, sociology or anything remotely scientific in his life. After you finish jerking yourself off to hokum pseudo-science from March of the Titan's Aryan theories why don't you try reading a real book. Dipshit.
Good, or at least arguable definitions of whiteness:
- Descendants of European Christendom - in other words a people that are not Muslims or Jews in any lasting period of time. Fail.
- European. Technically, yes. But they are just north of Georgia, another Caucuses region, which is a border region between Europe and Asia. Cartographers disagree about whether Armenia and Georgia are in Europe or Asia for example. Was Joseph Stalin white? In some sense that is what this question amounts to. How about Iranians - who are closely related to Armenians despite the different religion and back them against Turkey and Azerbaijan?
Maybe a better question: do they fit in some kind of dominantly Western European descended neighborhood? Probably not. Neither would Albanian or Bosniak refugees. This may be asking the wrong question then. The proper question is probably more one of cultural compatibility than race. The question of would you be ok with your daughter marrying one?
On that score Chechens aren't Arabs. But I've seen enough data to indicate they aren't pre-90s secularized Balkan Muslims either. They're not even a good fit in Moscow. Nevermind US flyover country.
Don't bother. These white trash Stormfront historians have as much chance picking up an actual academic or scientific book on the subject that's credible as a West Hollywood transvestite prostitute being HIV free.
I've been there a few times. They all white till they speak,they remind me of michigan,northern ohio and upper new York jew faggots with near black hair and hairy AF women. They drink like Russians on week days.
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Yeah except the Scythians are thought to be synonymous with the original Aryans or Indo-Europeans. If you have Western European ancestry, then you share your ancestry with Scythians.
Yeah except the Scythians are thought to be synonymous with the original Aryans or Indo-Europeans.
No thats not correct. The Scythians were a regime that existed in the pontic caspian steppe in the 1st millenium BC. The Aryans or Indo Aryans are generally associated with Sintashta culture which existed in the second millenium BC. The Proto-indo-european language was spoken from maybe 5000 to 3000 BC by steppe herders like the Yamnaya, which is probably what you call Aryan.
Chechens probably have some Scythian ancestry whereas I do not. They also probably have ancestry from Maykop and Kura-araxes and maybe some Hunnic or Turkic ancestry too.
First of all the word aryan has been misused because 3rd reich scientists misidentified the origen of the indo-european culture as the group who conquered iran and north india. We are not descended from those people. They were an offshoot of the original PIE speakers as were groups like corded ware whom we are descended from ( not so fast, greeks.)
We seem to be fairly heavily descended from Yamnaya and other related steppe herders who probably spoke PIE. We are also descended from the european people that were conquered by those steppe herders. These groups assimilated to form corded ware.
Yamnaya and stepper herders were themselves a mix of some eastern european hunter gatherers and some more “caucasus-ey” type people from the south, including maykop culture. Chechens, armenians, greeks, turks, etc have higher levels of this caucasus like ancestry. Corded ware had a double dose of non-caucasus early european ancestry, including native hunter gatherers and early european farmers. Chechen are going to be closely related to other caucasus types like armenians who speak indo european. The native tongue can be very deceiving in terms of determining a group’s lineage. One guy with alot of soldiers can force an entire nation to change their language. It doesn’t necessarily reflect ancestry.
Islam is dysgenic. Any society that has institutionalized polygyny will become a gang of murderous brigands sooner or later. Certain traits will thrive when breeding becomes an all-you-can-eat buffet. But they probably have plenty of steppe herder dna and are as white as armenians or georgians as far as I know.
You can be big tent White or little tent White. If you are little tent white, you might want to eliminate Italians, Spaniards, and Greeks as well. Theres no right or wrong answer. Are they too dysgenic for the club? Maybe? Lets face it, the average ashkhenazi jew probably has more corded ware ancetry then the caucasus peoples, but we don’t let them in the club, right?
Its not just how related a group is to us. Its what theyve been up to for the last few thousand years. If they were a pack of rapey pastoralists all that time, they wont be capable of assimilating into civilization.
The yamnaya WERE the scythians tardo. They swept down and conquered from middle Asia to england to egypt. You are using way too many words to say a single thing. Scythian.
No thats fucking gay. The Scythians lived 4 millenia after the Yamnaya. The Scythians live in the Iron age. The Yamnaya had barely invented the wheel. Look at the fucking gif. https://i.sstatic.net/1hJ5u.gif
The idea that the Aryans, for lack of a better term, swept down into India existed well before the Third Reich. Iran, which is cognate with Aryan, should give you a clue about that situation. Iranian peoples were an early offshoot of the original core Aryan group. They weren't conquered by them, they were them. All these names, yamnaya, corded ware, bell beaker, kurgan, whatever, all refer to the same group. Giving them different names is done to throw people off the trail. This is a point that Asha Logos makes quite often. His youtube is worth checking out, if you haven't already.
The idea that the Aryans, for lack of a better term, swept down into India existed well before the Third Reich.
Agreed, that was probably known in the 1800s. But they had not dated all these successive splinter groups from a core steppe herder group that was Yamnaya .
You said you're Western European. How different do you think you are from someone say from St. Petersburg or Zurich? Muh genetic testing will show differences, sure, but variations on a theme. Your little meme means nothing. It's a cartoon.
How different do you think you are from someone say from St. Petersburg or Zurich?
People from those areas (northern, central europe) are all heavily descended from Corded Ware Culture. As you can see in this PCA (principle component analysis) chart there isn’t a great genetic distance among those people. Southern Europe, Turkey and the Caucasus are a bit further off, genetically. But you can see that Ancient North Eurasians, Western Hunter Gatherers and Early Europeans farmers are all distinct . Those are mesolithic and neolithic populations.
Yamnaya was descended from some of these groups. Corded ware was an admixture of Yamnaya and Early Farmers. Sintashta/Aryan was a mix of Corder Ware and other more eastern groups.
They are not all the same. They are different groups that existed in different regions during different eras. Greeks didn’t come from corded ware at all.
You should have a second look at that “cartoon”. That is the evolution of white people over the last 20,000 years. They have identified and dated material cultures and dna from each of those groups and analyzed them in the context of each other to recreate a timeline of the European people. To just wave your hands at the whole thing and say “it’s all aryan” is low effort. Theres alot of good new genetic data on this stuff that has been discovered in the last 10 or 15 years.
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The Buddha however is said to have had blue eyes.
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You sound like some Stormfront loser who's never read an academic book on race, sociology or anything remotely scientific in his life. After you finish jerking yourself off to hokum pseudo-science from March of the Titan's Aryan theories why don't you try reading a real book. Dipshit.
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- Descendants of European Christendom - in other words a people that are not Muslims or Jews in any lasting period of time. Fail.
- European. Technically, yes. But they are just north of Georgia, another Caucuses region, which is a border region between Europe and Asia. Cartographers disagree about whether Armenia and Georgia are in Europe or Asia for example. Was Joseph Stalin white? In some sense that is what this question amounts to. How about Iranians - who are closely related to Armenians despite the different religion and back them against Turkey and Azerbaijan?
Maybe a better question: do they fit in some kind of dominantly Western European descended neighborhood? Probably not. Neither would Albanian or Bosniak refugees. This may be asking the wrong question then. The proper question is probably more one of cultural compatibility than race. The question of would you be ok with your daughter marrying one?
On that score Chechens aren't Arabs. But I've seen enough data to indicate they aren't pre-90s secularized Balkan Muslims either. They're not even a good fit in Moscow. Nevermind US flyover country.
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They all white till they speak,they remind me of michigan,northern ohio and upper new York jew faggots with near black hair and hairy AF women.
They drink like Russians on week days.
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No thats not correct. The Scythians were a regime that existed in the pontic caspian steppe in the 1st millenium BC. The Aryans or Indo Aryans are generally associated with Sintashta culture which existed in the second millenium BC. The Proto-indo-european language was spoken from maybe 5000 to 3000 BC by steppe herders like the Yamnaya, which is probably what you call Aryan.
https://i.sstatic.net/1hJ5u.gif
Chechens probably have some Scythian ancestry whereas I do not. They also probably have ancestry from Maykop and Kura-araxes and maybe some Hunnic or Turkic ancestry too.
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We seem to be fairly heavily descended from Yamnaya and other related steppe herders who probably spoke PIE. We are also descended from the european people that were conquered by those steppe herders. These groups assimilated to form corded ware.
Yamnaya and stepper herders were themselves a mix of some eastern european hunter gatherers and some more “caucasus-ey” type people from the south, including maykop culture. Chechens, armenians, greeks, turks, etc have higher levels of this caucasus like ancestry. Corded ware had a double dose of non-caucasus early european ancestry, including native hunter gatherers and early european farmers. Chechen are going to be closely related to other caucasus types like armenians who speak indo european. The native tongue can be very deceiving in terms of determining a group’s lineage. One guy with alot of soldiers can force an entire nation to change their language. It doesn’t necessarily reflect ancestry.
Islam is dysgenic. Any society that has institutionalized polygyny will become a gang of murderous brigands sooner or later. Certain traits will thrive when breeding becomes an all-you-can-eat buffet. But they probably have plenty of steppe herder dna and are as white as armenians or georgians as far as I know.
You can be big tent White or little tent White. If you are little tent white, you might want to eliminate Italians, Spaniards, and Greeks as well. Theres no right or wrong answer. Are they too dysgenic for the club? Maybe? Lets face it, the average ashkhenazi jew probably has more corded ware ancetry then the caucasus peoples, but we don’t let them in the club, right?
Its not just how related a group is to us. Its what theyve been up to for the last few thousand years. If they were a pack of rapey pastoralists all that time, they wont be capable of assimilating into civilization.
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Here have another https://files.catbox.moe/ch904a.jpeg
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Agreed, that was probably known in the 1800s. But they had not dated all these successive splinter groups from a core steppe herder group that was Yamnaya .
No youre wrong. These are all different groups. https://files.catbox.moe/ch904a.jpeg
Theyve all been genetically sampled and have significant differenced. Northern and central europeans are closely related to corded ware.
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People from those areas (northern, central europe) are all heavily descended from Corded Ware Culture. As you can see in this PCA (principle component analysis) chart there isn’t a great genetic distance among those people. Southern Europe, Turkey and the Caucasus are a bit further off, genetically. But you can see that Ancient North Eurasians, Western Hunter Gatherers and Early Europeans farmers are all distinct . Those are mesolithic and neolithic populations.
https://files.catbox.moe/mll3lt.jpeg
Yamnaya was descended from some of these groups. Corded ware was an admixture of Yamnaya and Early Farmers. Sintashta/Aryan was a mix of Corder Ware and other more eastern groups.
They are not all the same. They are different groups that existed in different regions during different eras. Greeks didn’t come from corded ware at all.
You should have a second look at that “cartoon”. That is the evolution of white people over the last 20,000 years. They have identified and dated material cultures and dna from each of those groups and analyzed them in the context of each other to recreate a timeline of the European people. To just wave your hands at the whole thing and say “it’s all aryan” is low effort. Theres alot of good new genetic data on this stuff that has been discovered in the last 10 or 15 years.