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I no longer believe that Christianity is essential to white identity. Seeing how easily this religion was co-opted to serve racemixing, homosexuality, and Israel leads me to believe it is not a strong foundation in and of itself

submitted by HeyJames to whatever 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 15:29:00 ago (+14/-4)     (whatever)

Perhaps the culture of the religion and the church attendance and holidays associated with bringing families and communities together, but it is obvious that the religion itself can be easily molded into whatever the manipulator desires

There is plenty of benefit to Christianity, but it is not a strong enough foundation to save our people.

Christians are the ones protesting abortion. Without abortion we would have 50 million more niggers in this country. Such a sum of blacks is difficult to comprehend. This is just one small proof that Christians will choose morality over race, same with their support of Israel.


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[ - ] puremadness 1 point 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 15:53:37 ago (+1/-0)

Lots will hate me but the whole Odin white religion stuff, it makes sense in a socialogical sense. I dont believe any of it as literal, but we should probably stop following the other guys religions.

Here's a question, if your homeland is hopelessly infested from within.... do you find a new one or pretend to "fight it out" while slowly dying?

[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:45:31 ago (+2/-0)

The Gods aren't literally real, but our ancestors created the stories for a reason and it helped them survive whatever problem they were facing at the time.

The people who believe and complied survived to pass on the "believe and comply" genes. And those who didn't became genetic dead ends.

As such, "Odin shaped genes" are a part of our genome, regardless of whether he is literally real or not.
Alternatively, we don't have "Abraham shaped genes".
The "cut off your dick for Yahweh" instinct isn't a thing we have.
That's a Jewish thing.
Jews have an Abraham shaped hole in their genes. Even if Abraham wasn't literally real.

The problem becomes the mental illness that emerges when you try to force an Abraham shaped religion in an Odin shaped hole.

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 15:58:39 ago (+0/-0)

religion exists for nearly 2k years
hundreds of infiltrations
only showed cracks after two world wars
"easily co-opted"

[ - ] HeyJames [op] 2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:18:41 ago (+2/-0)

The cracks formed pretty much immediately when the romans took it over and used it as a method of population control

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 17:24:19 ago (+0/-0)

Ah yes, the infamous Constantine theory.

[ - ] TheYiddler 1 point 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 20:21:33 ago (+1/-0)

Gutenberg Bible gets out. Suddenly you have Protestants, Calvinists, Quakers. Later you have JWs, Mormons. Catholic Church lost the monopoly on lies and people broke free only to fall into other traps. The cracks are way older than the world wars.

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 07:29:02 ago (+0/-0)

Wait you say it as its a good thing lmao

[ - ] FreeinTX -2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:04:21 ago (+0/-2)

Without God's law set in stone, coopting any group is made infinitely easier.

If people allow themselves to be stupid and easily swayed, they will be easily swayed. With no concrete moral compass there are no bounds to the corruption.

They will sacrifice virgins to rain gods on the hope of a rainstorm.

[ - ] HeyJames [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:25:32 ago (+1/-0)

God's law doesn't have so much to do with it as the social contract. The ability to inflict violence on those who break that contract is what keeps people in line.

[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 20:54:22 ago (+0/-1)

Not true. Yes. A social contract is important, but if you legalized killing "jew haters", for example, you can demand that being white breaks that contact and you can be executed for no more of a crime than hating.

Without God's law, the "law" is subject to those who decide what the law is and a social contract should simply be used to enforce that law,

[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 00:01:03 ago (+1/-0)

Why not get ahead of the curve and just kill the race traitors who would kill the Jew Haters?
This is how it used to be.
The Free Volk could kill anyone they wanted, because they were free.
The consequence was that untrustworthy people didn't last very long.
The "Homeless guy picking through your trash" got an axe in his face. And, thus, there were no homeless guys.
Meanwhile, if you were a contributing member of your tribe, you were highly valued, and therefore, protected.
The Free Volk could enact vengeance against anyone who harmed a high value member of the tribe.

All this freedom has been taken away from you.
You can not remove threats in your community.
You can not protect the high value members of your tribe.
All of this has been taken from you and given to a stranger.

You have no power over life and death.
That is the domain of your master.
You are a slave.

[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 10:16:13 ago (+0/-1)

A society that will kill anyone they want is a shit society. It's not the untrustworthy that is the concern. It's the popular and the well liked by those who can summon the most force.

If you weren't well liked or if the well liked wanted to take your shit because you are only an average person, you'd be killed.

Anarchy sucks. It's simply tyranny by those who can muster the most force. Lawless and utterly fucking stupid.

[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 10:40:26 ago (+1/-0)*

It's the popular and the well liked by those who can summon the most force.
Sounds like a shitty society to be a shithawk.

The Germanic Kings were elected by the Free Volk because they had a reputation for serving the interests of the Free Volk.
A warlord who abused his power didn't remain a warlord for long. He was subject to the same rules as the shithawk. If he was unpopular, he recieved a hatchet to the face.

If you weren't well liked
Yeah, if you weren't "well liked" you died. It sucks for shit-hawks. Be a better person.

if the well liked wanted to take your shit because you are only an average person, you'd be killed.
That's not how the Germanic Tribal economy worked.
There were no banks. Other than grain silos and smoke houses, there was no central way of storing value.
Value was distributed out among the people for them to put to use.
It was "Trickle Down Economics" taken to it's extreme limits.
The King would distribute all the wealth to his generals and in turn the generals would distribute their wealth to their people. And thus all the wealth was invested in the Free Volk.
In exchange, the Free Volk were expected to recontribute whatever profit they made at the end of the harvest.
Particularly trustworthy and productive Volk received large grants each year, and untrustworthy unproductive Volk received an Axe to the face.

And, in practice, the King had no wealth for himself, just an ability to command the economy.

Anarchy sucks
Anarchy sucks for shithawks. But, they get solved pretty quickly.

It's simply tyranny by those who can muster the most force.
Seems like a bad system for an unpopular person. Maybe try being useful and well regarded by your peers.

Lawless and utterly fucking stupid.
What if, instead of "Laws", we have social conventions that respected people agree upon?
Laws are for slaves.
This isn't Christianity, we don't have a slave morality.

[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 11:09:22 ago (+0/-1)

Quit making shit up. Kings aren't elected and they don't maintain their positions because the populous liked them. And, a king who abused his power could only be removed if the abuse caused so much opposition that the group he resigned over could muster the force to overcome his power.

You aren't well liked faggot. You'd get a hatchet to your face. Which brings up another point. If the king could simply hatchet the opposition to his power effectively, he could stay in power longer because the opposition would have a harder time mustering the force to remove him.

And, the group who could muster the most force can take your shit and that's ALWAYS been the way. You're simply trying to re-write history to suggest that a weaker group could remain in power and keep their shit if despite a more powerful group wanting it.

Pure fantasy land and make believe.

Not being "well liked" could come from having something those in charge want. Your abilities and talents aren't relevant. If I have something and you want it, be a piece of land, a valuable thing, or even a nice woman, that those in power want, you may end up not "well liked" and have those things taken. Stop pretending that this didn't or wouldn't happen. It happens all the fucking time, even today. In Afghanistan, if a farmer who was friendly to the Afghan government wanted his neighbors land, he'd tell the government that his neighbor was plotting terrorism. The US backed Afghan government, looking for proof the the boogeyman was real, would abduct the neighbor and send him to a black site to be tortured for a confession and killed, leaving the land for the friendly farmer. A common occurrence in the early 2000's.

"Social conventions". A rose by any other name. Social conventions set by how, exactly? Popular opinion? King mandate? If it feels good do it? Explain the difference between a "law" and a "social convention". So fuckin' dumb.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 11:44:50 ago (+0/-0)

Kings aren't elected
You live in the Hebrew matrix, so you don't understand that the Free Volk aren't obligated to live by the Jewish rules of your slave morality.

Indo-European monarchies are legitimized by the "Will of the Free Volk".
Semetic Monarchies are legitimized by "divine right".
Hou are trapped in the Hebrew Matrix, and thus you only are taught about Semetic Monarchies.

A Semetic King can not be challenged because the people are not free to challenge will of the Semetic-God.
Meanwhile, a Germanic King's power comes strictly from the 0eople, so if he becomes unpopular, the people can easily replace him.

If the king could simply hatchet the opposition to his power effectively, he could stay in power longer because the opposition would have a harder time mustering the force to remove him.
OK, he still needs to maintain a Hegemony of Free Volk who respect him.
At some point, a Germanic King needs to be valuable to the people, otherwise, he just ends up killing his entire kingdom.

If the king could simply hatchet the opposition to his power effectively, he could stay in power longer because the opposition would have a harder time mustering the force to remove him.
Imagine you and your friends getting together and deciding what you want to eat for dinner.
Waht Pizza? Want Chinese takeout? Do you need a complex legal structure to figure this out?
No, that's retarded.
Now, realize that Free Volk can apply this logic to all aspects of their lives.
Responsible people can come to an agreement on social conventions without 613 laws in 66 books written by Jews for Jews.
The Free Volk manage to do it without any Laws.

And, the group who could muster the most force can take your shit and that's ALWAYS been the way
Sounds like a bad system to be person who isn't respected. Why don't you have anyone to protect you, rabbi?

Not being "well liked" could come from having something those in charge want.
Go back and read what I told you about how a Germanic Tribal economy worked.
The person in power would have given you everything you had.
There would have been no point go "taking it back".
It was trickle down economics taken to the extreme.

In Afghanistan,
LOL, listen to this dumb nigger. I don't give a fuck what Sand-Niggers do.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:52:37 ago (+0/-0)

Slaves can't conceive of a society in which the Free Volk are capable of making good decisions for themselves.

You imagine virgin sacrifice, because your only moral reference is to yourself, and this is what you imagine yourself doing if you were free.
And therefore, you can't conceive of Free Volk who have enough self control to "just not sacrifice virgins without good reason".

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 10:12:56 ago (+0/-0)

Nigger, I imagined virgin sacrifice because we know God damned well that the incans did it. So did the Azteca.

We are currently killing unborn children here in the US because the people have been convinced that it's okay. In fact, here in the US, we do all sorts of heinous shit that's directly opposed to God's law. In fact, we've made it illegal to attempt to stop the heinous shit and will consider you in breech of the social contract if you interfere with shit like gender transitions, abortions, organ donation, etc.

"Self control" isn't the issue. Man's fallibility and man's lust for domination over other men is far more the issue. I'm sure you do countless things in your life the your "volk" would want to kill you for.

You said it yourself, when the jews came to the Romans, the Romans were corrupted and destroyed. Their "volk" didn't protect of save them from the jewish evil and tyranny.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 11:18:31 ago (+0/-0)*

the incans did it. So did the Azteca.
What makes you think I give a fuck about the Incas and Aztecs?
Let the dumb fucks genocide themselves.

We are currently killing unborn children here in the US because...
Who's "We"? The people I consider as the same category of being as myself don't get abortions.
It's primarily, Niggers, Spics and Jews.
The number of Retarded Whites getting an abortion is insignificant.

opposed to (((God's))) law
The White-Gods didn't give us laws. We are White, we can make good decisions for ourselves.

we've made it illegal to attempt to stop the heinous shit
Sounds like a good argument for anarchy. Your slave-laws are preventing you from destroying the subversive elements in your society.

consider you in breech of the social contract if you interfere with shit like gender transitions, abortions, organ donation, etc.
The Free Volk would just kill the untrustworthy people within arms reach. This wouldn't be a problem within White Nationalist Paganism.

"Self control" isn't the issue.
Yes it is. You are a slave. You have no self control.

Man's fallibility and man's lust for domination over other men is far more the issue.
Men who abuse their power are quickly eliminated. This isn't a problem for long.

I'm sure you do countless things in your life the your "volk" would want to kill you for.
I'm pretty sure my brothers and sisters and parents and grandparents don't want to kill me.
They entrusted me with the family finances, so, I must be doing alright in my role as "Tribe King".

Their "volk" didn't protect of save them from the jewish evil and tyranny.
It's because the Empire's legal structure became too bureaucratic.
A highly bureaucratic system is going to protect whatever "deep state" exists at that time, and Jews are inevitably going to subvert that system.
And that begins by removing power from the Free Volk to eliminate the subversive actors in their society and giving that power to the subversive actors.

For instance, (((Jesus "The Christ"))) was crucified without a trial because he was not a roman citizen, and therefore unprotected.
Contrast this with (((Saul the Pharisee))) who did have Roman citizenship, and as such was permitted to spread his subversion within the Roman Empire for years before he was finally given a trial in Rome and executed for being subversive.

The Free Volk would have just crucified (((Saul))) the same as they crucified (((Jesus))).

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 10:29:08 ago (+0/-0)

Nigger, I imagined virgin sacrifice because we know God damned well that the incans did it. So did the Azteca.

We are currently killing unborn children here in the US because the people have been convinced that it's okay. In fact, here in the US, we do all sorts of heinous shit that's directly opposed to God's law. In fact, we've made it illegal to attempt to stop the heinous shit and will consider you in breech of the social contract if you interfere with shit like gender transitions, abortions, organ donation, etc.

"Self control" isn't the issue. Man's fallibility and man's lust for domination over other men is far more the issue. I'm sure you do countless things in your life the your "volk" would want to kill you for.

You said it yourself, when the jews came to the Romans, the Romans were corrupted and destroyed. Their "volk" didn't protect of save them from the jewish evil and tyranny.

[ - ] Sector2 2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:31:44 ago (+2/-0)

it is obvious that the religion itself can be easily molded into whatever the manipulator desires

This is a factor of human programability, not of any particular belief system.

[ - ] happytoes 2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:41:46 ago (+2/-0)

The case of Islam supports what you say. Muslim's have a notion of shirk, of people manipulating Islam to mold it to their own desires. Islam condemns shirk and expects the faithful to fight it.

This does give a certain amount of stability, but it also leads to splits and vicious infighting as rival leaders install conflicting programs in their human followers.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 22:25:27 ago (+2/-0)

That’s as relevant as saying it’s a matter of breathing air.

Human programability is a given. making the exact ideology doing the programming, the problem. Which is exactly where op is coming from.

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:06:49 ago (+0/-0)

But OP was criticizing the belief system, not the 'exact ideology' making corrupted variations. There's no belief that can't be overridden or corrupted by programming from that exact ideology.

Look at the strong beliefs in the goyslop diet out there. Does corruption of beliefs in healthy diets discredit food consumption? No, the existence and adoption of corrupt variations has no reflection on the original non-corrupt concept. Discreditation only applies to the person accepting ersatz beliefs and concepts as legitimate.

[ - ] happytoes 3 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:37:26 ago (+3/-0)

Jesus is supposed to return. That works great in the early days. Convert today, tomorrow may be too late. Convert this week, next week may be too late. Convert this year, next year may be too late.

The trouble is that Christianity has a soft "sell buy" date. As the years tick by the urgency fades, and that drags down faith. I'm reading about Oliver Cromwell and Thomas Harrison. Some pious folk were expecting Jesus to return in 1660. Really? The issue is that if you read history, and then more history, you soon realize that there is an awful lot of it, and one thousand six hundred and sixty years is a mind bogglingly long time. Living in 1653 and expecting Jesus to return in 1660 is possible, but only by being ignorant, and not really grasping what a long time has slipped by. The issue is worse in 2024.

I'm not seeing how Christianity can revive to have the vigor that it had when people anxiously expected His return.

[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:51:25 ago (+1/-0)

Cromwell's wife was an "Old Testamentarian" They were a group running around England at the time getting all political. It means jew.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 19:20:16 ago (+2/-0)

Oliver Cromwell's wife was a Danish jew, Cromwell was permitted to marry her under the condition that he depose King Charles I and allow the jews back into England, he is also responsible for implementing the process of "speaking lies" AKA the evil "PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM".

[ - ] 3Whuurs 1 point 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 21:59:18 ago (+1/-0)

Cromwell was permitted to marry her under the condition that he depose King Charles I and allow the jews back into England

Without an entire history lesson, I’m curious about exactly this dynamic here. Where Cromwell not only was allowed to marry a Jew, but had to earn the right, like it was a privilege? Is this not something Jews would’ve had to have earned the right for?

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 05:53:30 ago (+0/-0)

It was all a facade for Cromwell, he was used for a specific reason and that was get rid of the monarchy that purged England of the jews, Cromwell was later executed.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 4 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:39:04 ago (+4/-0)

@HeyJames ...I couldn't do it anymore, I was worn out by the vagueries, inconsistency, duplicity, hypocrisy and the fact that the biblical story just didn't make sense anymore, "God's chosen people" and "God works in mysterious ways" was no longer cutting it for me...BUT...I'm not going to make it my mission to influence others. Judaism/islamism uphold "eye for an eye" and "sacred deception" while Christianity expounds upon "the meek shall inherit the earth", "love thine enemy" and "turn the other cheek", all of this is rooted in the destruction of the White S.A.N.E. race.
There's a real easy fix to the border crisis, snipers, kill those trying to enter illegally, I'm serious and I would have no problems giving the order or squeezing the trigger, and I am serious. But God doesn't condone such drastic measures? Allah and Yahwey do.

[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 3 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:46:35 ago (+3/-0)

Not religious at all however the jews that push abortion are. They believe they are sacrificing children to Molech/ba'al and feel empowered by it.

Eliminate the jew and you dont need to abort 50 million niggers, you ship them all to Africa.

[ - ] HeyJames [op] 3 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 17:11:06 ago (+3/-0)

In an all white country, I would not support abortion

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:33:06 ago (+0/-0)

Even in an all white nation, you would still need to eliminate the bottom 10%, especially the retards.
If not through abortion, you would at least have to leave them to the elements when they lick a flag pole during a blizzard.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:30:27 ago (+0/-0)

Why are you opposed to Jews and niggers aborting their untetmensch spawn?
You don't need to ship niggers anywhere if they are genociding themselves.

[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 15:37:01 ago (+0/-0)

They arent genociding themselves. They outbreed the abortion rates where as Whites are genociding ourselves because we dont outpace our abortion rates.

Why do you support the jews sacrificing to their dieties molech and ba'al?

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 15:56:39 ago (+0/-0)

They outbreed the abortion rates
Stop feeding them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aue9VwivqTY

Why do you support the jews sacrificing to their dieties molech and ba'al?
Because why would I care if they are genociding themselves?
Encourage them to do it more.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:47:53 ago (+1/-1)

It has an incredibly strong foundation. All one has to do is read either Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. Not anything else.

Those are the words of God Jesus Christ. THere is nothing else in or out of the book that tops that.

THose churches are media propaganda and nothing else. Christians don't have to go to church and most don't.

Christians CAN kill all of those lying thieves and political manipulators calling themselves Christian. They can kill anyone who blasphemes against Christianity. All they has to do is justify their wants. Humanity is operated by justification when it isn't by animalistic savagery

They've done it in the past and will again. It's the largest religion. Protestants aren't required to tick a box anywhere claiming they're Christian so they're undercounted.

[ - ] DitchPig -1 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 11:12:52 ago (+0/-1)

Where in the bible does the Spanish dude claim to be a god?

The gods of the bible are ywh, and yhvh. jewish gods that christcucks worship.

[ - ] Reawakened -2 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 16:48:37 ago (+0/-2)

I no longer believe water is necessary for life. I've seen people shit in it.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:47:03 ago (+0/-0)

Good luck with that.

[ - ] Reawakened -1 points 6 monthsOct 13, 2024 08:11:53 ago (+0/-1)

Same logic.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 17:14:17 ago (+1/-1)

Ah a Christ Hater.

I'll just put you in the box with Kikes who also hate Christ.

[ - ] Not_C 1 point 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 17:14:30 ago (+1/-0)

Religion is a weapon.
Yeah there's truth in saying that we stopped using and ignored the weapon, and someone else picked it up and is now using that weapon against us.

But that doesn't mean we should avoid a weapon because it could be used against us.
It means that we need to seize control of that weapon.

religion itself can be easily molded into whatever the manipulator desires

There you go.
Why aren't you molding that religion into a weapon that accomplishes our goals?

The Anti-Christ is not one person. The Anti-Christ are the Against-Jesus people. Who during Biblical times rejected and killed Christ. The Anti-Christ are the Jews.
The Anti-Christ has infiltrated the Church, twisted scripture, and manipulated Christians. Every Christian must fight back against the Anti-Christ and remove them from this Earth.

Mold Christianity into what you desire.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus -1 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 17:32:21 ago (+0/-1)

You can be butt buddies with Half of voat goats now. I mean why not?

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 22:33:13 ago (+0/-0)

This is honestly the perfect post to judge Christian goats by.
The position is stated, perfectly, rational, and not slanderous disrespectful.

So any Christian here that dislikes the post but can’t engage on the exact same level to argue for their faith in the same Goodwill, without just repeating. “Because the Bible says this” should be ashamed of themselves.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsOct 12, 2024 23:28:04 ago (+0/-0)

Congratulations.
The next step is to identify that "White Identity" predates Jesus by thousands of years, and that Christianity was never "White" to begin with.

Once you begin to study White Nationalist Paganism, you will find out very quickly that you are actually very dissatisfied with Christianity, because it is antithetical to White instinct.

The problem is, Jews told you your whole life that these nagging suspicions you always had about Christianity were "sinful", and so you spent your whole life amassing mental illness by living opposed to your White nature.

Now, you have the tools required to cure yourself.
No Jewish Messiah required.

Heil Odin! o/