There's adequate nutrition and then there is optimal nutrition. There's no way you're getting enough of everything no matter how healthy you try to eat.
🔵 US Soil is low in iodine. You need to supplement. We already do this via iodized salt. 🔵 Modern lifestyle is indoors most of the time. You need to supplement vitamin D. Especially in winter. 🔵 It's really hard to get optimum b12 levels. About the only food that get you there is beef liver about once a month. 🔵 Zinc and Selenium are very important for male reproductive health. Falling sperm count data proves this is needed. 🔵 Most people don't eat enough fresh fruits and vegetables. Vitamin C supplementation is good for you. 🔵 Most people don't ear enough beans and are low on magnesium. 🔵 Boneless meat is not a "premium" cut. The collagen and gelatin from a hearty bone-in stew is very good for you. 🔵 Creatine has amazing benefits for muscle development. 🔵 If your woman isn't fucking her head up with hormone pills and cancelling her periods, she needs iron.
A multivitamin will get you most of these things but the suggested amount of some (particularly Vitamin D) is still very low. Supplements are good and some the effects are very noticeable. The FDA intentionally does not regulate this market so consumers have to sort the real stuff from the (((hucksters))).
Im a big supplement taker. However I also think that many vitamins can have a down side or negative effect especially when supplemented in higher doses. People should be aware there are trade-offs with most vitamins.
Iron seems to be cancer promoting. Menstruating women and maybe children might be the only groups that would benefit from extra iron, excepting certain medical conditions.
Vitamins b6,b9, and b12 might also promote cancer. I would not take crazy high doses of these for a prolonged period if you have a cancer risk.
Vitamin A (both forms) and several other carotinoids (lutein, zeaxanthin) also promote certain types of cancer, especially in smokers/ex-smokers. Astaxanthin does not.
Vitamin D3 is great but should be taken with K2 (MK-7) as it might increase atheroscleroses by raising blood calcium. K2 counteracts that issue.
Iodine supplementation can increase risk of hypothyroidism.
Too much zinc can block copper absorbtion.
Thats just off the top of my head. The right dose of a vitamin might really depend on your stage of life and your hereditary risks.
And faggots, please realize that most multivitamins use cheap forms of vitamins that are poorly absorbed. Magnesium oxide for example is worthless for anything but constipation. Read up on the best forms of vitamins and try to use those.
Lot of good info here. Multivitamins usually have a good dosage that's not too crazy. Multivitamins usually have shitty versions of vitamins, but not all of them are useless. The Magnesium oxide for example is harmless so it's no big deal. Being a multivitamin means the complementing vitamins/minerals come together.
The rest can be covered by other supplements. They can be a huge money pit so I don't bother with very many beyond the multivitamin.
I'm not convinced that too much iodine is a bad thing.
Fasting is the most potent anti-cancer prevention. Skip food for one week out of the year to stay healthy.
Im doing intermittent fasting ie., I only eat during a 6 to hour window. I want to start doing longer fasts but I haven’t really committed to it yet. Because I fucking love eating.
I'm not convinced that too much iodine is a bad thing.
It may depend on risk factors. Japan did a study decades ago that determine that women with higher iodine intake had higher rates of hashimoto’s hypothyroidism. Women will have much higher risk of Hashimotos than men. But I would suggest that men with any familial autoimmune disease avoid excess iodine.
There are some people that say taking selenium reduces the risk of hashimotos so selenium might be a good thing to add if you do take iodine. I have hashimotos, so I do not take extra iodine but I do take selenium. Its a problem that affects me obviously and I wonder if excess iodine in my diet contributed to my disease. Its something to think about when considering iodine.
Japan did a study decades ago that determine that women with higher iodine intake had higher rates of hashimoto’s hypothyroidism.
I would need to do more study. Is it the iodine that triggers Hashimoto's disease or is it a hypoactive thyroid (caused by Hashimoto's disease) that makes the person crave iodine to compensate for reduced thyroid function? I didn't get an immediate answer looking so perhaps I will study this later. Perhaps not.
It is believed that iodine stimulates release of TPO (thyroid perioxidase) which causes inflammation. If theres a lot of inflammation (from alot of iodine) the immune system becomes overactive and begins producing anti-TPO antibodies. Its the most common form of autoimmune disease in humans. Im not exactly sure how but its thought that increased selenium intake counteracts this inflammatory process. Theoretically high iodine intake can both trigger a hypothyroid condition and also exacerbate an existing one.
Another form of hypothyroidism due to low iodine is very rare in the West and other developed countries.
is it a hypoactive thyroid (caused by Hashimoto's disease) that makes the person crave iodine to compensate for reduced thyroid function?
That may also be true. I do really like seaweed and I like the smell of it. I guess you could say I crave it. But I avoid it.
it's just another trick like any other. A trick to make money, like always and everywhere. When you eat balanced (make a study of it!) you don't need overpriced 'supplements'. Waste of your money.
what the fuck do i care or know. the fuckin 'cure' for 'covid' was on the supermarket shelves all along, and a big part of that was... EXTRA SUPPLEMENTS.... not DIET REPLACEMENT. But big 'natural remedy' is also owned by 'big pharma' so 'big natural remedy' instead of pointing out biosecurities law and stating, rightfully, that the emergency jab authorisation was ILLEGAL because THEIR PRODUCTS EXIST, they just shut their mouths....
and now a bunch of fucking faggots are advertising their shit here and implying your average healthy person actually needs them
attempting to do what pharma has failed to do for the last 5 years, convince us that their product is necessary in any way shape or form, when its killing them to sell a lifetime necessary treatment they happened to develope decades ago for a totally new disease that totally isnt anything like the experiment by the same fuckin doctor in the 80s... that they developed the treatments to 'cure'
If their local supermarket has a "health section", then what is the rest of the supermarket?
I can't even bother arguing at face value today with these tard lords, let alone getting into metabolic function, vitamin bioavailability, quality control of manufacturing, competing minerals in vitamin supplements and vitamin interation. Or how dietary supplementation does not make you healthier or more disease resistant, or other in-depth topics regarding vitamins.
the average commercial food consumer needs to stop being fucking lazy, eat less 'commercial food' (lol what even are you on about... mcfatties? yeah anyone who does maccas twice a day 7 days a week or similar as you appear to be implying is not your 'average' consumer, if you mean bought from the supermarket... yeah that doesnt imply unhealthy, unless you chose to fill up your trolley and empty your bank account on twinkies you fat diabetic fuck) and start eating properly. no one 'average' 'desperately' needs anything sold by anyone attached to a pharmaceutical or therapeutic company.
Ywp. They are Always Hungry because they are nutrient deprived on top of being poisoned and having their dopamine receptors triggered by all the other shit they put in their foodesque products that they get so excited for. That then compels them to eat more garbage. Fattiness ensues.
[ + ] Kung_Flu
[ - ] Kung_Flu 7 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 06:53:30 ago (+8/-1)*
🔵 US Soil is low in iodine. You need to supplement. We already do this via iodized salt.
🔵 Modern lifestyle is indoors most of the time. You need to supplement vitamin D. Especially in winter.
🔵 It's really hard to get optimum b12 levels. About the only food that get you there is beef liver about once a month.
🔵 Zinc and Selenium are very important for male reproductive health. Falling sperm count data proves this is needed.
🔵 Most people don't eat enough fresh fruits and vegetables. Vitamin C supplementation is good for you.
🔵 Most people don't ear enough beans and are low on magnesium.
🔵 Boneless meat is not a "premium" cut. The collagen and gelatin from a hearty bone-in stew is very good for you.
🔵 Creatine has amazing benefits for muscle development.
🔵 If your woman isn't fucking her head up with hormone pills and cancelling her periods, she needs iron.
A multivitamin will get you most of these things but the suggested amount of some (particularly Vitamin D) is still very low. Supplements are good and some the effects are very noticeable. The FDA intentionally does not regulate this market so consumers have to sort the real stuff from the (((hucksters))).
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 09:16:26 ago (+3/-0)
Iron seems to be cancer promoting. Menstruating women and maybe children might be the only groups that would benefit from extra iron, excepting certain medical conditions.
Vitamins b6,b9, and b12 might also promote cancer. I would not take crazy high doses of these for a prolonged period if you have a cancer risk.
Vitamin A (both forms) and several other carotinoids (lutein, zeaxanthin) also promote certain types of cancer, especially in smokers/ex-smokers. Astaxanthin does not.
Vitamin D3 is great but should be taken with K2 (MK-7) as it might increase atheroscleroses by raising blood calcium. K2 counteracts that issue.
Iodine supplementation can increase risk of hypothyroidism.
Too much zinc can block copper absorbtion.
Thats just off the top of my head. The right dose of a vitamin might really depend on your stage of life and your hereditary risks.
And faggots, please realize that most multivitamins use cheap forms of vitamins that are poorly absorbed. Magnesium oxide for example is worthless for anything but constipation. Read up on the best forms of vitamins and try to use those.
[ + ] ProudRebel
[ - ] ProudRebel 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 10:31:06 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 12:49:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Kung_Flu
[ - ] Kung_Flu 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 10:36:38 ago (+0/-0)
The rest can be covered by other supplements. They can be a huge money pit so I don't bother with very many beyond the multivitamin.
I'm not convinced that too much iodine is a bad thing.
Fasting is the most potent anti-cancer prevention. Skip food for one week out of the year to stay healthy.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 13:32:59 ago (+0/-0)
It may depend on risk factors. Japan did a study decades ago that determine that women with higher iodine intake had higher rates of hashimoto’s hypothyroidism. Women will have much higher risk of Hashimotos than men. But I would suggest that men with any familial autoimmune disease avoid excess iodine.
There are some people that say taking selenium reduces the risk of hashimotos so selenium might be a good thing to add if you do take iodine. I have hashimotos, so I do not take extra iodine but I do take selenium. Its a problem that affects me obviously and I wonder if excess iodine in my diet contributed to my disease. Its something to think about when considering iodine.
[ + ] Kung_Flu
[ - ] Kung_Flu 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 14:00:17 ago (+0/-0)
I would need to do more study. Is it the iodine that triggers Hashimoto's disease or is it a hypoactive thyroid (caused by Hashimoto's disease) that makes the person crave iodine to compensate for reduced thyroid function? I didn't get an immediate answer looking so perhaps I will study this later. Perhaps not.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 15:06:00 ago (+0/-0)
Another form of hypothyroidism due to low iodine is very rare in the West and other developed countries.
That may also be true. I do really like seaweed and I like the smell of it. I guess you could say I crave it. But I avoid it.
[ + ] jfroybees
[ - ] jfroybees 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 15:50:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ProudRebel
[ - ] ProudRebel 2 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 09:00:30 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 2 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 02:57:52 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 09:17:59 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 09:10:29 ago (+2/-1)*
Everyone of you should be mRNA jabbed.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks [op] 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 09:55:01 ago (+1/-1)
what the fuck do i care or know. the fuckin 'cure' for 'covid' was on the supermarket shelves all along, and a big part of that was... EXTRA SUPPLEMENTS.... not DIET REPLACEMENT. But big 'natural remedy' is also owned by 'big pharma' so 'big natural remedy' instead of pointing out biosecurities law and stating, rightfully, that the emergency jab authorisation was ILLEGAL because THEIR PRODUCTS EXIST, they just shut their mouths....
and now a bunch of fucking faggots are advertising their shit here and implying your average healthy person actually needs them
attempting to do what pharma has failed to do for the last 5 years, convince us that their product is necessary in any way shape or form, when its killing them to sell a lifetime necessary treatment they happened to develope decades ago for a totally new disease that totally isnt anything like the experiment by the same fuckin doctor in the 80s... that they developed the treatments to 'cure'
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 10:45:37 ago (+0/-0)
I can't even bother arguing at face value today with these tard lords, let alone getting into metabolic function, vitamin bioavailability, quality control of manufacturing, competing minerals in vitamin supplements and vitamin interation. Or how dietary supplementation does not make you healthier or more disease resistant, or other in-depth topics regarding vitamins.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 08:19:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Smedleys_Butler
[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 07:50:17 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 07:42:00 ago (+2/-1)
A message I can endorse.
Have an updoot.
Heil Odin! o/
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 07:36:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] SilentByAssociation
[ - ] SilentByAssociation 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 02:39:28 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks [op] 2 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 03:09:09 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] Hoobeejoo
[ - ] Hoobeejoo 0 points 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 03:55:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 1 point 8 monthsOct 5, 2024 06:32:57 ago (+1/-0)
Counting the days now, til I see the ‘foodesque range’ in the supermarket :(