The purpose of the Auschwitz concentration camp was to process inmates for sentencing at another work camp or release them. That's right, prisoners were regularly released from Auschwitz.
Auschwitz was located in Poland which fell during the early days of the war and didn't see much combat during the campaign. While German and Russian cities were being bombed, Auschwitz was safe. Babies were being delivered in Auschwitz and the inmates enjoyed the swimming pool and Orchestra.
Zyklon B was critical to the camp's success. The Germans had read papers published in America about zyklon B's effectiveness in preventing the spread of disease from mexican migrants in El Paso texas and applied it to the dirty gypsies and jews of Auschwitz. We never heard of this resulting in spic deaths in El paso, so we must assume these treatments were benign.
Towards the end of the war, those who remained in the safety camp who were not released did indeed have high death rates like the rest of people in German occupied territory, but only after the life saving zyklon B was cut off from supply lines. We can assume at this point every prisoner who was deemed not a threat to the war effort was released (women children elderly etc) and those remaining were likely military aged men with criminal tendencies. Even still, with the total processed through auschwitz being 250,000 and only a few thousand being found dead, the survival rate was quite good in comparison to Berlin.
We can get past all the silliness about "gassing" and "cremations" considering the use of Zyklon B was proven by the united states to be safe and non toxic for pest control and the mathematical impossibility of cremation numbers. These camps were built for the purpose of deporting undesirable outside of German occupied Europe, however this goal was not ever accomplished. Given this information, we can completely logically assume that these camps only ever served one purpose - safety from the bombings and horrors of war.
As someone who actually studied chemistry and medicine: the idea that hydrogen cyanide would be a GOOD MASS KILLING agent is LUDICROUS.
1. The dosage would have to be quite high. High enough to cause cyanosis. That would turn every victim a morbid shade of blue btw. Quite unforgettable when you see it once. ZERO mentions of this ANYWHERE in ANY LITERATURE?!!
2. The BODIES would be TOXIC TO HANDLE. You would poison anyone handling the bodies. What do you do with these poison bodies? If you bury them, you destroy the groundwater, if you burn them, same issues with airborne contaminants.
Not to mention how they would vent the gas. These executions were supposedly happening within yards of military barracks.
A decent german engineer would put a gassing facility miles outside of the main camp. Or just decide to be practicial and shoot people instead. Theres like a million better ways to kill people en masse. A gorillion even.
The whole concept of thousands of survivors from extermination camps is ridiculous. Ursula Haverbeck published a big book containing all the orders given at Auschwitz and there was not a single mention of mass killings.
All German camps transmitted daily statistics to a central station in Berlin every night. These communications contained the number of people who arrived, who left and who died during the day. The messages were eavesdropped and deciphered by the allies and there was no mass killings there either.
On top of that just a small crematorium and the quantities of coal delivered to Auschwitz also match the small numbers reported above.
They are making money with this hoax even today...
Germans are famously efficient and smart. If they wanted to kill thousands or millions of prisoners, they would simply cut off food and water. A week later, goal accomplished. Waste precious resources like coal and chemicals during wartime? Why??
At some point in early human civilization, exile was actually a punishment. Scarcity of resources. Distance between settlements. Saber toothed tiger. Whatever. The utility of externalizing enemies was proportional to the investment costs of physically moving a dangerous item.
This ancient era is when our “programming language” was created. We’re still using the ancient programming language. But in modernity, the costs of moving a dangerous item have dramatically increased while the utility gained by externalizing the dangerous item have dramatically decreased. No saber toothed tigers.
I don’t like “attacking” nazis because the reader will have a defense response. So this is my most tame explanation available.
Im actually pretty confident in my ability to comprehend a well articulated argument. And you have a habit of making these obscure comments that no one gets. If you don’t want to be understood, I wonder why you are here? What a shame. I was actually interested in what you had to say about ancient programming. But you failed to complete the thought or make it relevant to the topic under discussion.
lady you ain't gonna be the one they try to make build the cabins anyway. just complain to the men in your life about a lack of resources and I'll take care of the rest.
Ok, explain then exactly what he meant by ancient programming languages and how it relates to anus expander’s comment that overly elaborate, inefficient modes of mass murder aren’t likely to have occured. Explain what he means by attacking/not attacking Nazis? Are you the Nazi in this scenario? How is his comment a rebuttal of what you or Nazis have argued? Ill wait.
His statement was incredibly simple to understand. He stated that exile as a punishment is a learned behavior that has been imprinted in our DNA. It was effective due the limited populations of hunter-gatherer times and the plentiful lands for an exiled individual to roam.
Now, in the age of a huge industrial population boom, the amount of population that needs to be moved and the lack of areas in which to move them makes this not such a good punishment. However, we resort to this over and over due to the aforementioned learned behaviors.
It literally made perfect sense to me and I thought it a brilliant point.
I was prepared to let this go because you didn’t answer several pointed questions I put to you but okay if thats what you want.
exile as a punishment is a learned behavior that has been imprinted in our DNA.
This is a retarded statement. Learned behavior does not get “imprinted” in DNA. What you would have said, were you not retarded, is that use and fear of exile evolved as behaviors but its possible he may have been thinking of culture as a medium of “programming” and not DNA. Could have used clarification.
Your task: Define “dangerous item” in this context. Define “externalization.” Define “moving.” Explain why moving and externalization or incompatible options? Explain exacty which policies they would correspond to in the setting of WW2 Germany and the Hall-of-cost?
I don’t like “attacking” nazis because the reader will have a defense response. So this is my most tame explanation available.
Explain which Nazis he is wary of offending. Explain which of their viewpoints he is refuting and how. I asked you this already but you ignored me because you dont know.
BTW he is literally announcing that his response is intentionally cryptic and abstract in this sentence because the Nazi in question is either too triggery or too stupid to understand him. Did you get that?
How does his response relate to AE’s question? I already asked you that but you ignored the question because you don’t know. Did he answer AE’s question? What is AE’s question? Can ya figure that out?
Its clear you don’t understand his comment or you would have already answered these questions. Your gloss was vague and unuseful. Your LMAO!s only punctuate your intellectual insecurity.
Zyklon b was used to kill bugs in clothes. That is why traces of it were only found in ONE ROOM in Auschwitz, the room used to keep a lot of clothes. Most likely to kill lyce and/or crabs..
I forget whether it was Irving or someone else who pointed it out in writing but apparently the German army used Cyanide fumigation chambers the size of a train to efficiently decontaminate railway cars in WWI (yes, WWI).
To me that settled the debate about gas chambers with "holes in the ceiling" (for zyklon pellets) designed by imbeciles. If the Holocaust would have happened the way it's supposed to the Germans would have driven those "pivoting" coal carrying cars right into facilities like the one described. After the 'special treatment' they would have just driven the train to the edge of a mass grave next to a temporary railway.
The mainstream version with tiny gas chambers and processing of individual bodies is pure insanity when scaled up to millions of victims.
Regardless of how it was used.. To treat something or fumigate bugs in clothes.. The main fact is that it was NOT used how they say it is.. Any usage as gas and/or high quantities, there would be traces in the walls, floors, doors, anything.. They tested all around Auschwitz and nothing.. No traces.. Except in one room, in the middle of a building (not the ones for prisoners), a medical one, where there were germans, not even a big room where according to documents they kept clothes there. They found traces of zyklon b on the walls of that room. That is it.
Yeah it really hit me I guess 2 years ago probably from discussions here that if you looked at it from a purely survival rational standpoint the concentration camps were actually safety camps. They literally shipped the Jews out of the cities that we're going to be bombed and left the Germans to die in flames in those cities like Dresden while the Jews were literally harbored way out of the way of any cities in the safest places they could possibly be and to my knowledge those camps were never attacked or mom. That's when I coined the term safety camp sometime a year or two ago because that is actually what they were.
Exactly this. That's the main reason why I take issue with the "Hitler was our guy" idea. Things could not have gone better for the jews. Between being in safety camps so they weren't killed, killing massive amounts of whites/ fucking up the survivors emotionally and economically, acquiring Israel and having the poor persecuted jews narrative for all of time, WWII was exceptionally beneficial for them.
I hate to think it but it's hard to argue with that logic. If that's true that means there's never been anyone who on a large scale has actually fought the problem
I'm inclined to think that there isn't one group of "jews" to fight but instead many groups whose goals sometimes align. I've no suggestion about what to do other than continue to educate others when possible and raise my children well. We're all far too comfortable to take any serious action.
[ - ] NoRefunds 1 point 8 monthsSep 20, 2024 12:11:51 ago (+1/-0)
all you have to do to red pill normies on Auschwitz is ask them when the gas chambers were built. then you tell them 1948. And the forgot to attach the chimneys when they did this.
And if they don't have their head up their ass, they can do the math. If they don't care, they never were going to be red pilled anyway.
There were three separate KZ installations in the general vicinity of the city of Auschwitz.
The first and oldest compound is called Auschwitz I. The myth of the 'death camp' AII, "Birkenau" has probably been instilled in the public consciousness to shield from any investigation into the far more interesting camp AIII, "Monowitz". This camp supposedly serviced the enormously costly production facilities of IG Farben engaged in the production of a synthetic rubber called "Buna".
No idea how accurate of a source the guy is but according to Joseph Farrel AIII was never designed as a rubber plant but instead housed some advanced type of isotope enrichment facility.
Sources are lacking but some hints can be found in the mainstream "Farmhall transcripts":
HEISENBERG: What would one want 60,000 men for? KORSCHING: You try and vaporise one ton of uranium. HARTECK: You only need ten men for that. I was amazed at what I saw at I.G. [Farben].
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1. The dosage would have to be quite high. High enough to cause cyanosis. That would turn every victim a morbid shade of blue btw. Quite unforgettable when you see it once. ZERO mentions of this ANYWHERE in ANY LITERATURE?!!
2. The BODIES would be TOXIC TO HANDLE. You would poison anyone handling the bodies. What do you do with these poison bodies? If you bury them, you destroy the groundwater, if you burn them, same issues with airborne contaminants.
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A decent german engineer would put a gassing facility miles outside of the main camp. Or just decide to be practicial and shoot people instead. Theres like a million better ways to kill people en masse. A gorillion even.
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Probable "logical" argument "people" would use.
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All German camps transmitted daily statistics to a central station in Berlin every night. These communications contained the number of people who arrived, who left and who died during the day. The messages were eavesdropped and deciphered by the allies and there was no mass killings there either.
On top of that just a small crematorium and the quantities of coal delivered to Auschwitz also match the small numbers reported above.
They are making money with this hoax even today...
https://www.tag24.de/justiz/dresden-gefaelschte-dokumente-ans-militaerhistorische-museum-verkauft-3319514
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This ancient era is when our “programming language” was created. We’re still using the ancient programming language. But in modernity, the costs of moving a dangerous item have dramatically increased while the utility gained by externalizing the dangerous item have dramatically decreased. No saber toothed tigers.
I don’t like “attacking” nazis because the reader will have a defense response. So this is my most tame explanation available.
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His statement was incredibly simple to understand. He stated that exile as a punishment is a learned behavior that has been imprinted in our DNA. It was effective due the limited populations of hunter-gatherer times and the plentiful lands for an exiled individual to roam.
Now, in the age of a huge industrial population boom, the amount of population that needs to be moved and the lack of areas in which to move them makes this not such a good punishment. However, we resort to this over and over due to the aforementioned learned behaviors.
It literally made perfect sense to me and I thought it a brilliant point.
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I was prepared to let this go because you didn’t answer several pointed questions I put to you but okay if thats what you want.
This is a retarded statement. Learned behavior does not get “imprinted” in DNA. What you would have said, were you not retarded, is that use and fear of exile evolved as behaviors but its possible he may have been thinking of culture as a medium of “programming” and not DNA. Could have used clarification.
Your task:
Define “dangerous item” in this context. Define “externalization.” Define “moving.” Explain why moving and externalization or incompatible options? Explain exacty which policies they would correspond to in the setting of WW2 Germany and the Hall-of-cost?
Explain which Nazis he is wary of offending. Explain which of their viewpoints he is refuting and how. I asked you this already but you ignored me because you dont know.
BTW he is literally announcing that his response is intentionally cryptic and abstract in this sentence because the Nazi in question is either too triggery or too stupid to understand him. Did you get that?
How does his response relate to AE’s question? I already asked you that but you ignored the question because you don’t know. Did he answer AE’s question? What is AE’s question? Can ya figure that out?
Its clear you don’t understand his comment or you would have already answered these questions. Your gloss was vague and unuseful. Your LMAO!s only punctuate your intellectual insecurity.
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That is why traces of it were only found in ONE ROOM in Auschwitz, the room used to keep a lot of clothes.
Most likely to kill lyce and/or crabs..
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To me that settled the debate about gas chambers with "holes in the ceiling" (for zyklon pellets) designed by imbeciles. If the Holocaust would have happened the way it's supposed to the Germans would have driven those "pivoting" coal carrying cars right into facilities like the one described. After the 'special treatment' they would have just driven the train to the edge of a mass grave next to a temporary railway.
The mainstream version with tiny gas chambers and processing of individual bodies is pure insanity when scaled up to millions of victims.
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To treat something or fumigate bugs in clothes..
The main fact is that it was NOT used how they say it is..
Any usage as gas and/or high quantities, there would be traces in the walls, floors, doors, anything..
They tested all around Auschwitz and nothing.. No traces.. Except in one room, in the middle of a building (not the ones for prisoners), a medical one, where there were germans, not even a big room where according to documents they kept clothes there.
They found traces of zyklon b on the walls of that room.
That is it.
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If that's true that means there's never been anyone who on a large scale has actually fought the problem
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I've no suggestion about what to do other than continue to educate others when possible and raise my children well. We're all far too comfortable to take any serious action.
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And if they don't have their head up their ass, they can do the math. If they don't care, they never were going to be red pilled anyway.
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The first and oldest compound is called Auschwitz I. The myth of the 'death camp' AII, "Birkenau" has probably been instilled in the public consciousness to shield from any investigation into the far more interesting camp AIII, "Monowitz". This camp supposedly serviced the enormously costly production facilities of IG Farben engaged in the production of a synthetic rubber called "Buna".
No idea how accurate of a source the guy is but according to Joseph Farrel AIII was never designed as a rubber plant but instead housed some advanced type of isotope enrichment facility.
Sources are lacking but some hints can be found in the mainstream "Farmhall transcripts":
HEISENBERG: What would one want 60,000 men for?
KORSCHING: You try and vaporise one ton of uranium.
HARTECK: You only need ten men for that. I was amazed at what I saw at
I.G. [Farben].
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