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Anyone here ever tried to fight the cops legally?

submitted by Anotherone to whatever 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 17:06:39 ago (+5/-0)     (whatever)

Local PD don't like me at all. I been calling them on their bullshit, as well as city governance, and I have figured out why more people don't do it.

First off with cops you MUST make reports of misconduct to them so that it can be investigated and found they did nothing wrong. It is so that a paper trail of negligence is documented.

After that you have to notify them of and why you are going to sue them, once that is served and filed the city attorney is going to investigate and come to the same conclusion obviously.

Then the city manager is going to do a probe and provide you with a detailed mess of bullshit.

They can also take as long as they wish and keep fucking up too, keep harassing you, and you have to do the same process with each and ever instance.

I have proof they are not investigating by their detail of investigating and resolve with 3 of the cases I have brought to them, and requested that the IA division officer not investigate any more claims as it is shown he isn't doing them properly.

You cannot just lawyer up, doesn't work that way because he will have to do the same shit as I am doing. Added that most lawyers won't take the case unless you are bloody or have bullet holes.

If anyone else knows something I don't please share.


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[ - ] Thought_Criminal 4 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:12:56 ago (+4/-0)

Can't you report one level up? If city pd report to Sherriff?

I wouldn't be ordering from the local Domino's if I put them on blast on social media or something.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:15:59 ago (+1/-0)

No, sheriff office said they do not do investigations into police departments, only outlier within the county.

I have used all my local FB groups, and nextdoor is admin by many of the cops wives or immediate family so posts get deleted.

[ - ] veridic 3 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 20:38:02 ago (+3/-0)

You can't fight them on the local level with the local judges.

You have to fight them in federal court, with a 1983 claim.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983

https://www.fjc.gov/sites/default/files/2012/Sec19832.pdf

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 21:49:03 ago (+1/-0)

They haven't deprived me of my rights on this level.....yet, but I have a way to make them.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 01:59:47 ago (+1/-0)

We've have loads of morons in office; you could be president. There is no office a person can be too stupid to have.

It's easier to accomplish your goals from an office.

https://legalbeagle.com/6936062-do-report-corrupt-police-department.html

https://abramsondenenberg.com/2021/11/what-are-the-main-causes-of-police-corruption/

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 03:01:30 ago (+0/-0)

I am vindictive and hold a grudge. Not poltical material really. I appreciate the link, will start attempting to get the state's attorney and AG tommrow

[ - ] dass 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:41:45 ago (+1/-0)

It also helps to have them investigated for going against/ failing to comply with their own Department policy - most cop IA Investigaton is 'Administrative' and not criminal sp it's important to show they did not comply with policy/ procedure (filling out reports correctly - excessive force etc etc) and like you said leave a paper trial of reports/ misconduct on their permanent record, whether or not it is sustained or otherwise.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 2 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:52:01 ago (+2/-0)

It's honestly frustrating because they won't correct their shit.

They keep doing it and escalating.

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 05:14:37 ago (+0/-0)

If anyone else knows something I don't please share.

Kosher nostra

Also, what do you know about freemasonry?

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 11:35:23 ago (+0/-0)

I know that people who think it as influential also belive qanon.

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 11:53:11 ago (+0/-0)

I know that people who think it as influential also belive qanon.

Correlation != Causation

Try not to let your imagination take too many steps. You only need local data that an interconnected mafia is controlling your neighborhood, city and state. This mafia trail ends at "the jewish bankers". If you dig deeper the one correlation alwayts remains.

Alchemiaic Gnosticism.

Basically, we are dealing with an international "vampire mafia" but mostly interact with their "familiars".

[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 03:18:34 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 04:07:41 ago (+0/-0)

Oh that is an easy answer. Because city governments work with cops to extend oppression. Also because this is where I live, where I lay my head to sleep.

I would prefer that I fix the issues within my hometown so that when I get what I want as a resolution I can share with others here and my platform so that others can do the same.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 14:13:49 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 14:49:53 ago (+1/-0)

Today 3 more people in my town made formal complaints about the local police department to the AG and provided me with the correspondence to show they did!

I did look at what you posted, and here is the problem. Unions will oppose it just as they do body cams on officers, to this day there are still police without even a dash cam.

I applaud this idea you presented, really I do. Thing is that I need to fix where I live first.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 19:27:54 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] drhitler 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 22:53:23 ago (+0/-0)

I dont think they can use their guns or tazers if you cover them in gasoline

on a very cloudy day use a stolen fast bike just magdump a couple of traffic cops and get away to a lake with some scuba gear and swim up the river il you get back to the camp site you setup a few days earlier.

bikes are so fast now they wont be able to do anything and they will seethe about it forever and will also force them to live with the fear they use on us.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 23:32:16 ago (+0/-0)

You are acting stupid. Be serious for fucks sake.

No one ever cheered a cop killer but the retards already in jail.

[ - ] hylo 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 22:37:35 ago (+0/-0)

Can you run for office for local government? It would be a lot harder to fuck with you once you had some real power.

Try contacting those youtubers that make videos of cops misbehaving, there are a couple. Speaking of which, record everything. Can you take a beating? Maybe you can mouth off and piss them off to the point where they get themselves in lawsuit territory.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 23:31:29 ago (+0/-0)

I am one of those youtubers lol. You would be amazed at how restrained cops are when a camera is on them.

Far as poltical office, I ain't that guy. Don't know the first thing about any of that shit.

You don't really ever see the conclusion of those first amendment auditors videos do ya? You know why? Because often it is settled outside of court, or they will lay charges on you for anything they can and the case is dismissed by local judicial entities.

Those people in the videos are making money from the platform and views. If you watch current ones you will see how it is done now. You have to trap the cop and strip their qualified immunity.

The way you do that is them breaking their oath, but you need their policy guide to see if they swore an oath to the state constitution, township or city constitution or actual constitution.

They are wildly different. State patrol however is actual constitution. Now the means by which you do this is simple. When they ask for ID which they have to get your ID or your verbal giving it up for their report.

Doesn't matter if they know who you are.

Unless they suspect you of commiting a crime, belive you are about to commit a crime, or know you have committed a crime you don't have to ID. However they will escalate to make it seem like you have to.

Trap them! Ask them if you do not ID what are they going to do?

If they say they will arrest you they have violated the 4th amendment. You can ID, or you can say cool let's go. The moment they arrest you they are fucked. Usually like 5k but takes a couple years and the FOP pays it.

Suing a department is waaaaaay harder.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 20:22:50 ago (+0/-0)

At no time did you state here what exactly is our problem. For all anyone knows you got a speeding ticket and were speeding but don't think that's anyone's business but your own.

The communist anti police shit stirring is making it harder to get rid of bad cops.

You'll need an ID to post on the internet soon anyway and you and will starve to death, so that's at least a ray of sunshine.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 20:30:21 ago (+1/-0)

Arrested my son on a bullshit charge from a complaint they got where they lost the report we made about it. Held him for 23 days till the DA dropped it.

Called it an honest mistake.

However I was assured they did everything by the book, so now I am making sure they do.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:52:39 ago (+0/-0)

I tried to run once and got tackled then spent nearly a month in county. Oh legally

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:58:19 ago (+0/-0)

I refuse to run. Spent way too much on this stump of a shit shack I call home. Plus I am sick and goddamn tired of running away.

12 IA reports I have filed since the 28th of last month, now they have 32 for the year. They sure as fuck know who I am because I have to give them all my info each goddamn report.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:10:06 ago (+0/-0)

file for sanctuary with russia theyre gonna kill you

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:17:55 ago (+1/-0)

Na. I have made it very very know I fear this outcome. They stay their distance and will walk away when I am near every single time.

Added the standalone cameras with tracking on my airgaped home network that they know they can't fuck with keeps them at bay.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 17:51:21 ago (+0/-0)

Pitchforks and torches would be more effective

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:09:38 ago (+0/-0)

It isn't. Let me tell you why.

They only need to get lucky one fucking time, and your life is ruined.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:17:11 ago (+0/-0)

That's why you gather all the neighbors first

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:19:31 ago (+1/-0)

Man....that is the biggest problem. They all know about the rampant corruption but refuse to stand against it as they are renters.

Or fearful of the reprisal cops get. They keep saying be careful, be careful but none of them realize if we stood as one they wouldn't fuck with us.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:25:46 ago (+0/-0)

The worse things get, the easier it should be to get them to join you

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:34:38 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe, but at least there are 2 Facebook groups that won't remove posts I make with the videos and their letters of resolution.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:57:41 ago (+0/-0)

Do those posts get any reactions?

You know they can shadow ban you and make it appear to you as though your posts and comments are shared when they are not shared and the site just makes it appear to you that the posts are shared with others

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:05:07 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah, people comment and react with their shocked Pikachu face bullshit.

Something like 1711 reaction in a group with 11k members.

Plus 79 comments.

One of them is minus the admin, other the admin is sympathetic to my plight lol.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:10:43 ago (+0/-0)

That's always good to know that you're no shadow banned
Though they sometimes have bot accounts react to your stuff when you are shadow banned
its nefarious

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:17:04 ago (+1/-0)

Honestly it doesn't seem to matter as they are all blackpill as a mother fucker, saying that it's been like this for years, no one is going to do anything, cops will target you, better watch out, hope you don't need to call 911 sometime.

It is weird how conditioned people are to accept oppression and how willing they are to do it.

Look I get that it is like playing with fire, but at this point so the fuck what? They are either going to make an ass of themselves or they will harm me and mine.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:05:40 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe, but at least there are 2 Facebook groups that won't remove posts I make with the videos and their letters of resolution.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:33:49 ago (+1/-0)

Not gonna happen. Been trying that and there is always a reason they cant.

[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 17:32:59 ago (+0/-0)

Damn Son,You're playing "hard-ball"with those fuker's! Well Done!

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 18:14:20 ago (+0/-0)

Doesn't feel like it.

I really don't even want money, and if I got it, most would go to paying stuff for the community I live in. Hearts and minds you know?

Pisses me off that biggest thing is how incapable anyone else is when you ask them for help. So many elected officials will tell you what it is they cannot do as to what they can.

Seriously they do this. From my council person to the fucking senator of my state. I have shaken every tree to get someone to investigate this, and they are all saying oh you didn't do this? Well you have to use the system before we can step in blah blah.

It doesn't protect you the citizen at all.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 19:49:14 ago (+0/-0)

The problem is the security relationship between the state and the citizen. It's not something that you can fix by participating in it.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 8, 2024 20:18:03 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe not, but I can sure piss them the fuck off.

I don't know what the outcome of this is, but I know I am right in what I am doing, and that is enough.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 02:07:11 ago (+0/-0)

The outcome of poking a nest is usually that they sting you.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 04:15:19 ago (+0/-0)

Already did. They kidnapped my son on some bullshit from a report we filed but they lost it, then told me was an honest mistake.

Kept him for 23 days and they told me they did everything by the book. So now I am making sure they do. I sunk every penny we had into this house, and I got nowhere else to go.

Fuck them, all of this centers around a specific cop losing face and the department is so used to just fucking with people's lives.

Ever had your kid wake up each day and stare out the window, waiting for them to come back? Ever had your son afraid of someone?

Not going to try and pull at your heart but my father never asked me how I felt, what I was thinking and certainly didn't give a fuck when anyone messed with me.

I won't let my son think that someone can just fuck with him and not have consequences.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 14:55:38 ago (+0/-0)

The reason that they can get away with kidnapping someone is that they misrepresent people as persons who do not have the natural right of liberty. The can't kidnap "by the book" if that assumption is refuted. In that case if they proceed without due process it becomes criminal fraud.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 16:21:56 ago (+0/-0)

Well, they had a search warrant and an arrest warrant from a complaint made back on Feb 28th where we made a report of on the 27th.

They got an arrest warrant may 31st and the search warrant July 12th and served both on July 16th.

Showed up with 25 officers at 0823, had a shotgun pressed against my temple and walked my son down the street in his underwear, only to drop it 23 days later and say they did everything by the book and was an honest mistake.

So now I am ensuring they do everything by the book, and for that I have 8 dash cam videos where they follow me around, 5 videos of their drone over my home.

2 videos of them sitting at the end of my street.

A recording of the capt of the PD telling me when I reported an officer rolling the stop sign out front of my house that it isnt like they sit at the end of my street watching me all the time.

Council person won't address this, city manager refuses to address it, mayor told me I should have such an attitude and that he doesn't work on my schedule for a meeting to address this.

The state's attorney won't call back, attorney general won't call back, my local representative told me to shut the fuck up, when I attempted to attend a city council meeting police told me if I took one more step it would constitute deadly force.

And drew their weapon.

Governor, senator, state representative, county sheriff all say they can't do anything.

[ - ] Theo 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 16:33:13 ago (+0/-0)

Did your original report involve any persons?

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 9, 2024 16:48:10 ago (+0/-0)

Just the vehicle number of the unit as that was all I could get from the video when they ran the sign.

However they refuse to tell me the officer name, nor will they give me the dash cam of that unit so that I can see if he was distracted driving.