Its even easier than this. Call your local cable company at high noon, when the guy in India answers, ask him to loom out the window and tell you where the sun is. It will be night time there so he won’t have any sun at all. Not possible a flat plane
The rails are parallel. The sun rays are (nearly) parallel. They both appear to diverge (or converge as in the second image) for the same reason: perspective.
Also, the rails that are parallel but converge in the distance only happen on a flat plane. On a sphere the horizon would be below your eye level at all times no matter what.
[ - ] Reisk [op] 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 16:51:45 ago (+1/-0)
Nobody needs fish-eye anything. If the water was flat, the buildings in that video would not 'rise' above the horizon with an increase in elevation of the camera.
[ - ] Reisk [op] 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 17:00:01 ago (+1/-0)
You flattards are so fucking horny for 'muh fisheye' cameras you don't see that a flat earth would NOT have buildings and landmass 'rise' above the horizon with an increase in elevation of the drone camera.
It's amazing the hoops you idiots will jump through in order to preserve your fantastically stupid ideas.
Guess you would have everyone just completely ignore Chad drone footage (that actually goes to the upper atmosphere) showing our nearby sun above the clouds:
If this were true you would not have refraction at night. You could see Beijing from New York. But you can't, and you never will, because the earth am not flat buddyretard
Of course increasing elevation does that. Now do a different test. Go down to the water's edge with a high zoom camera like a nikon p1000 and zoom in and watch the city magically rise above the horizon again even though you haven't changed elevation. That's the weird stuff we're talking about.
The fact that increasing elevation brings it into view is irrelevant. Yes it is consistent with a globe. And You and I both think it IS in fact a globe. But why does a strong enough zoom at zero elevation cause the city to apparently rise above the horizon again?
Some trick of refraction? I don't know. But I do suspect you were unaware of the effect I just described.
Another thing to consider is, why is flat earth so heavily censored? I went on a debunk deep dive awhile back to refute this flat earth nonsense once and for all (because I couldn't honestly believe people actually believed this shit) and the every time I'd find a YouTube video that wasn't just pure retardation it would be gone when I went back to it later. Usually stuff showing proof of NASA using green screens or like I described above people bringing things back above the horizon using high power zoom.
If you think there's zero reason flat earthers are suspicious you're just under-informed.
Atmospheric refraction. I was not unaware. A phenomenon that WOULD NOT HAPPEN the way it does on a flat earth. There would be no 'horizon' to look over in the first place.
Flat Earth is not censored. Its proponents do not engage in legitimate debate, and instead present the most absurd and laughable memes mocking those that do not believe their model.
Watch what they do. They can't argue sincerely.
Oh, anti-NASA videos disappear form the internet? Not surprising. But those are NOT convincing as flat earth arguments, therefore do not count as being non-retarded flat earth videos being censored. They're NASA bullshit being censored.
Flat earthers have nothing but mockery memes and absurd images and arguments that fall flat under the slightest bit of investigation.
Atmospheric refraction. I was not unaware. A phenomenon that WOULD NOT HAPPEN the way it does on a flat earth. There would be no 'horizon' to look over in the first place
There is an optical horizon on a long flat table my brother. You are uninformed.
Flat Earth is not censored. Its proponents do not engage in legitimate debate, and instead present the most absurd and laughable memes mocking those that do not believe their mode
Oh, anti-NASA videos disappear form the internet? Not surprising. But those are NOT convincing as flat earth arguments, therefore do not count as being non-retarded flat earth videos being censored. They're NASA bullshit being censored
They are connected.
Flat earthers have nothing but mockery memes and absurd images and arguments that fall flat under the slightest bit of investigation.
There are a million YouTube videos like the one I posted above that prove it's the exact opposite.
There is an optical horizon on a long flat table my brother. You are uninformed.
Horseshit.
Oh don't they?
100%. Not my job to watch a debate. The FE shills come to forums and cannot form a single argument that isn't "but muh NASA"-tier bullshit.
Really? Or is it the exact opposite?
It's their job to come to the forums and argue well and sincerely. Not our job to entertain their bullshit.
When I go to forums to argue about the Holocaust, I bring facts, figures, stats, documents, evidence, etc. Because it's MY job to convince the masses that they were lied to.
I do that. FE losers on forums do not. "Here, watch this debate/video - spend YOUR time doing MY job for me".
Nah.
Losers, the lot of them.
They are connected.
NASA censoring anti-nasa bullshit has nothing to do with the flat earth argument. You admitted the videos being censored were NASA-centric. You don't get to go back on that.
There are a million YouTube videos like the one I posted above that prove it's the exact opposite.
Not interested in doing your research for you. Not a single video I HAVE taken the time to watch has been convincing.
Your argumentation type is like that of a Jew attempting to convince me the Holocaust existed. "look at all these HOLOCAUST(flat earth) videos!"
[ - ] qwop 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:08:13 ago (+1/-0)
On a clear day with water temperature close to ambient air temperature, the conditions for a mirage or any significant bending of light do not exist. In order for the light to bend in a meaningful way, you need layers of air with different temperatures. This only happens on a calm day where water and air temperatures differ enough, so that layers of warm or cool air can form without significant mixing.
Sure, you will always see atmospheric disturbances, but those are random in nature, and do not contribute significantly to any single directional bending.
If you photograph something multiple times, and 99 out of 100 times it shows the same thing, you can be pretty sure that you have a good average take on something which does exist for real, and not caused by atmospheric conditions, which are random in nature.
If the phenomenon was caused by some random atmospheric effect, then 50 times you'd see one thing, and 50 times another. That's not what happens here. What you see in the video is consistently repeatable. And 1 in 100, you would see a mirage caused by real layering of air, easily distinguishable from the 99 other times when you saw no mirage.
Why I have to keep explaining obvious things like this around here, that is the real mystery. It's like on Voat suddenly the IQ has dropped 20 points from the rest of the population. It's like we're in kindergarten over here, and there's a bunch of toddlers with crayons in their hands, doodling all over the walls.
Flat Earthers use bullshit arguments, attack the messenger, and pull the "trust me I'm smart" garbage. So when you Sphere Earthers argue back you do the exact same. That's why all of you like arguing with one another. Because you're all the same.
But your bullshit arguments, and attack the messenger tactics, they don't work when other jump in.
In the end, you're too stupid to factor in air. You can't see air, so according to you it can't be a factor. Your counterargument was literally that you can't see a difference, so there is no difference. You're just as stupid as a Flat Earther who says the Earth is flat because it looks flat.
But either way, you attacked the messenger. Which is just a way of admitting that I'm right and your wrong, while trying to save face. So thanks for admitting that you're wrong.
Of course increasing elevation does that. Now do a different test. Go down to the water's edge with a high zoom camera like a nikon p1000 and zoom in and watch the city magically rise above the horizon again even though you haven't changed elevation. That's the weird stuff we're talking about.
I had to explain this to someone a few days ago, and I'll copy and paste it here -
If a Flat Earther says that the Earth is flat because it looks flat, they're an idiot. If a Spherical Earther (or whatever they're called) says that the Earth is a sphere because it looks like a sphere (because ships appear to drop over the horizon), they're also an idiot.
Cold air below + warm air above = Fata Morgana https://files.catbox.moe/tqfk91.jpg Meanwhile, warm air below + cold air above = light refracting the other way.
If anyone is too stupid to realise that light refracts through the air, then they're an idiot. Again, BOTH sides are idiots if they use the argument, "But.. but.... I'm right. Just look. See."
- Once again, I'm not saying that the Earth is flat or that the Earth is a sphere. What I'm saying is that ANYONE who uses what they "see" in an argument is using bullshit arguments. EVERYTHING you see is refracted through gasses. Everything. EVERYTHING. ANYONE, (it doesn't matter if they're Flat Earthers or Sphere Earthers) are idiots if their argument or evidence consists of what they "see". Your argument of going to the waters edge with a zoom camera is bullshit. Pure bullshit. If you want to win an argument, or present valid evidence, then make sure you never use what you "see" through various densities of gasses.
You - "With a rise in elevation of the drone, buildings and landmass 'rise' above the horizon."
Me - "The light you see has travelled though various densities of refracting gasses."
Again, you can't trust what you see, because the light that is reflecting off of those buildings has travelled through various densities of refracting gasses.
You're too stupid to know that air refracts light, because you can't see air. Keep arguing with Flat Earthers about how you're right because of what you "see".
No you can most likely see the curve even with your own eyes. Depends on how good your vision is and what you're using as a reference point.
That drone footage was taken over Lake Pontchatrain, which has the longest overwater bridge in the world. 23.8 miles (38 km) long. Using that as a reference, you would most likely be able to see the curve on a clear day.
Soundly has showed it in many videos, using this lake and the bridge as reference.
You could also just drive a car over the bridge. At the midpoint of the bridge in the middle of the lake, you will not see either shore. That's not possible on a flat plane.
[ - ] dass 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 18:25:48 ago (+1/-0)
Nope, sorry bud but just no, you cant see the curve from that height it's only the drone camera making it appear. I have been at 30 000 ft in the cockpit of a commercial airliner (more than once) on absolute clear sunny days - zero curve other than the line of the horizon curving around, not down, and off to each side.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:04:42 ago (+4/-3)
A straight edge can be used to draw a vertical line as easily as a horizontal one.
And in this case, it can be used to prove that the earth cannot possibly be flat and can only be a sphere.
A line isn't a flat earth geometry tool, ya dumb fuck.
The GPS model is a sphere. And while I can provide a spherical map with a scale for distance, you have to ignore the facts and can't even post a fuckin map of your imaginary earth that includes a scale for distance. A basic fuckin scale and you can't do it. Just like you can't even begin to explain how GPS would work in a flat earth and provide altitude information.
What is elevation of a GPS point? (Definition) The GPS coordinates contain only 2 pieces of information: latitude and longitude on the terrestrial globe. Altitude (or elevation, or z value) is the height of the point on Earth, relative to the sea level which is counted as the base altitude (0 meters).
How to calculate the elevation of a GPS point? Altitude cannot be calculated from coordinates directly, there is not and never will be a calculation formula.
The subject is boomer bait. It's as transparent as arguing the sky isn't blue, so poor gullible boomers feel the need to correct them. By stating the obvious, you are presuming the obvious needed to be stated. You believe someone that stupid can exist, be argued with, or educated.
You're not solving anything, you're playing into a prank. I suppose you could be making humanity "better" by providing some amusement to the pranksters.
If I'm having fun and also teaching some lurkers that FE is the joke (along with any whom worship the jewish idea) then I'm satisfied. Even if I don't I still got my entertainment out of it.
Same thing with the jews. Anyone can observe. The jews are funny as fuck. Have contributed so much through science to our society. But then you get a bunch of people mix them together and they are all evil because there's a bunch of evil kikes? Lots of evil whites. Blacks etc. The only people I dont trust are chinks. Most of the anti jew shit on here is dumb unemployed basement dwellers brainwashed. Brainwashed by the fucking chunks. There are literal giant chink farms posting on sites like this and others. Designed to divide and conquer us. We did the same to China. Divided Taiwan Hong Kong and other regions. That's what they are doing to us. Jews are smart. They gave us nukes first. They helped us to be economically number 1. Time to embrace ur fellow Americans and rise up against who is really trying to destroy us. It's fucking China you idiots. I know half of you are chinese. But if you aren't. Listen to me. Jews are american. We need em. Black niggers. American we need em. Even the Mexicans fucking help. And I promise you within all those categories. There are plenty of people who think all the nasty shit going is bullshit. Edit: "Chink Americans are fine" Asians are good people. I'm talking specifically about Chinese bots from China.
Yeah we really need evil jews pulling 9/11, covid, and all sorts of other psyops. We really need evil jews like jeffrey epstein, ghislaine maxwell, clare bronfman, assi ben mosh, and roy cohn using child sex trafficking to control our political class. We really need evil jews creating the biggest mind control ideologies in the world like christianity, islam, and communism.
If you can't tell that the jews are specially evil, you're a moron.
Yup all the jews fault. Or maybe it's just evil people who hang out with all the same evil people. Accusing jews of everything evil would be the same as saying all whites are evil. Since they are still actually white.
We are all caucosoids. Different shades of white. From tan to pale. I guess you don't think Italians for Spaniards are white either? You don't know shit. You just trying to blame jews for your problems.
Dude, ofc the "Jews" (they are a multi ethnic group at the end of the day) aren't all bad. Chinks aren't all shitty too you know...
The problem arises when you allow them to organize politically. If you do the math you arrive at the conclusion that after two thousand years of diaspora they should have been incorporated into their host society.
They didn't because of racism. Their racism. Not mixing with goys is literally in their holy book. After all they are the chosen ones.
So for two thousand years they have self selected for ethnic hatred against white people. The nice Jews literally stopped being Jews along the way by breeding outside their own race.
[ + ] FluffyBunnySlippers
[ - ] FluffyBunnySlippers 8 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:50:30 ago (+9/-1)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 4 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 01:17:17 ago (+8/-4)
The sun doesn't light up the entire flat earth. It isn't 93,000,000 miles away.
https://files.catbox.moe/gztpuf.png
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 07:41:53 ago (+1/-0)
Source.
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 08:18:52 ago (+3/-1)
Yes, this is because the horizon is optical and not geometric.
I don't understand what point you are trying to make with sun rays. They clearly don't hit the Earth parallel as Eratosthenes falsely assumed.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 09:03:57 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 3 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 09:08:48 ago (+3/-0)
https://files.catbox.moe/wqfx8q.jpg
Notice the local sun spot directly beneath the sun.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 09:14:34 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 09:19:25 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 12:20:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 08:19:25 ago (+1/-1)
https://www.google.com/search?q=refraction&rlz=1CAEVJI_enUS1022&oq=refraction&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDAgAEEUYORixAxiABDIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIKCAMQABixAxiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiPAjIHCAkQABiPAtIBCDE5MzBqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 3 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 08:39:08 ago (+3/-0)
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[ + ] cyclops1771
[ - ] cyclops1771 7 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 02:03:05 ago (+12/-5)
I fly in "airplanes" at 36,000 feet, no curvature. But muh drones!
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 3 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 05:50:42 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 07:32:45 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 14:54:10 ago (+1/-0)
FEs always scream for others to show them the curve, then they can show me Big Ben from Las Vegas.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:34:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:36:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:40:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Reisk
[ - ] Reisk [op] 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 16:51:45 ago (+1/-0)
You lose.
[ + ] Reisk
[ - ] Reisk [op] 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 17:00:01 ago (+1/-0)
It's amazing the hoops you idiots will jump through in order to preserve your fantastically stupid ideas.
[ + ] reptillian
[ - ] reptillian 7 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:56:30 ago (+9/-2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwimocU0IIc
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 6 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 04:15:29 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 6 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:01:56 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 6 points 9 monthsAug 2, 2024 23:52:10 ago (+9/-3)*
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[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 05:52:51 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 3 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 06:01:27 ago (+5/-2)*
You don't know how angular resolution limit works.
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[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 14:52:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 01:50:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 01:51:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 02:00:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 02:03:40 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2024 11:14:40 ago (+0/-0)
The fact that increasing elevation brings it into view is irrelevant. Yes it is consistent with a globe. And You and I both think it IS in fact a globe. But why does a strong enough zoom at zero elevation cause the city to apparently rise above the horizon again?
Some trick of refraction? I don't know. But I do suspect you were unaware of the effect I just described.
Another thing to consider is, why is flat earth so heavily censored? I went on a debunk deep dive awhile back to refute this flat earth nonsense once and for all (because I couldn't honestly believe people actually believed this shit) and the every time I'd find a YouTube video that wasn't just pure retardation it would be gone when I went back to it later. Usually stuff showing proof of NASA using green screens or like I described above people bringing things back above the horizon using high power zoom.
If you think there's zero reason flat earthers are suspicious you're just under-informed.
[ + ] Reisk
[ - ] Reisk [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2024 19:32:17 ago (+0/-0)
Flat Earth is not censored. Its proponents do not engage in legitimate debate, and instead present the most absurd and laughable memes mocking those that do not believe their model.
Watch what they do. They can't argue sincerely.
Oh, anti-NASA videos disappear form the internet? Not surprising. But those are NOT convincing as flat earth arguments, therefore do not count as being non-retarded flat earth videos being censored. They're NASA bullshit being censored.
Flat earthers have nothing but mockery memes and absurd images and arguments that fall flat under the slightest bit of investigation.
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 8 monthsAug 6, 2024 11:12:19 ago (+0/-0)*
There is an optical horizon on a long flat table my brother. You are uninformed.
Oh don't they? https://rumble.com/v4vgojw-flat-earth-debate-austin-whitsitt-vs-jonathan-shelley-moderated-by-owen-ben.html
Really? Or is it the exact opposite? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCXupXXXncM
They are connected.
There are a million YouTube videos like the one I posted above that prove it's the exact opposite.
[ + ] Reisk
[ - ] Reisk [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 6, 2024 15:37:19 ago (+0/-0)
Horseshit.
100%. Not my job to watch a debate. The FE shills come to forums and cannot form a single argument that isn't "but muh NASA"-tier bullshit.
It's their job to come to the forums and argue well and sincerely. Not our job to entertain their bullshit.
When I go to forums to argue about the Holocaust, I bring facts, figures, stats, documents, evidence, etc. Because it's MY job to convince the masses that they were lied to.
I do that. FE losers on forums do not. "Here, watch this debate/video - spend YOUR time doing MY job for me".
Nah.
Losers, the lot of them.
NASA censoring anti-nasa bullshit has nothing to do with the flat earth argument. You admitted the videos being censored were NASA-centric. You don't get to go back on that.
Not interested in doing your research for you. Not a single video I HAVE taken the time to watch has been convincing.
Your argumentation type is like that of a Jew attempting to convince me the Holocaust existed. "look at all these HOLOCAUST(flat earth) videos!"
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 3 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 03:29:26 ago (+6/-3)
The light you see has travelled though various densities of refracting gasses.
You're making Spherical Eathers look just as stupid as Flat Earthers by claiming that what you see counts as evidence.
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:08:13 ago (+1/-0)
Sure, you will always see atmospheric disturbances, but those are random in nature, and do not contribute significantly to any single directional bending.
If you photograph something multiple times, and 99 out of 100 times it shows the same thing, you can be pretty sure that you have a good average take on something which does exist for real, and not caused by atmospheric conditions, which are random in nature.
If the phenomenon was caused by some random atmospheric effect, then 50 times you'd see one thing, and 50 times another. That's not what happens here. What you see in the video is consistently repeatable. And 1 in 100, you would see a mirage caused by real layering of air, easily distinguishable from the 99 other times when you saw no mirage.
Why I have to keep explaining obvious things like this around here, that is the real mystery. It's like on Voat suddenly the IQ has dropped 20 points from the rest of the population. It's like we're in kindergarten over here, and there's a bunch of toddlers with crayons in their hands, doodling all over the walls.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:39:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 21:50:55 ago (+0/-0)
That's why all of you like arguing with one another. Because you're all the same.
But your bullshit arguments, and attack the messenger tactics, they don't work when other jump in.
In the end, you're too stupid to factor in air. You can't see air, so according to you it can't be a factor.
Your counterargument was literally that you can't see a difference, so there is no difference.
You're just as stupid as a Flat Earther who says the Earth is flat because it looks flat.
But either way, you attacked the messenger. Which is just a way of admitting that I'm right and your wrong, while trying to save face.
So thanks for admitting that you're wrong.
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 8 monthsAug 6, 2024 13:17:19 ago (+0/-0)
Really? Cause when you watch debates it the exact opposite. I posted an example in another comment.
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 8 monthsAug 6, 2024 17:13:30 ago (+0/-0)
I had to explain this to someone a few days ago, and I'll copy and paste it here -
If a Flat Earther says that the Earth is flat because it looks flat, they're an idiot.
If a Spherical Earther (or whatever they're called) says that the Earth is a sphere because it looks like a sphere (because ships appear to drop over the horizon), they're also an idiot.
Cold air below + warm air above = Fata Morgana https://files.catbox.moe/tqfk91.jpg
Meanwhile, warm air below + cold air above = light refracting the other way.
If anyone is too stupid to realise that light refracts through the air, then they're an idiot.
Again, BOTH sides are idiots if they use the argument, "But.. but.... I'm right. Just look. See."
- Once again, I'm not saying that the Earth is flat or that the Earth is a sphere. What I'm saying is that ANYONE who uses what they "see" in an argument is using bullshit arguments. EVERYTHING you see is refracted through gasses. Everything. EVERYTHING.
ANYONE, (it doesn't matter if they're Flat Earthers or Sphere Earthers) are idiots if their argument or evidence consists of what they "see".
Your argument of going to the waters edge with a zoom camera is bullshit. Pure bullshit.
If you want to win an argument, or present valid evidence, then make sure you never use what you "see" through various densities of gasses.
[ + ] Reisk
[ - ] Reisk [op] 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 16:56:51 ago (+0/-0)
You're an idiot.
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 21:54:14 ago (+0/-0)
Me - "The light you see has travelled though various densities of refracting gasses."
Again, you can't trust what you see, because the light that is reflecting off of those buildings has travelled through various densities of refracting gasses.
[ + ] Reisk
[ - ] Reisk [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 10:38:10 ago (+0/-0)
Cope.
Cope harder, fedboi.
Laughably absurd.
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2024 04:31:19 ago (+0/-0)
Absurd?
You're too stupid to know that air refracts light, because you can't see air.
Keep arguing with Flat Earthers about how you're right because of what you "see".
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 2 points 9 monthsAug 2, 2024 23:59:59 ago (+2/-0)*
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 06:54:42 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 08:46:50 ago (+0/-0)
That drone footage was taken over Lake Pontchatrain, which has the longest overwater bridge in the world. 23.8 miles (38 km) long. Using that as a reference, you would most likely be able to see the curve on a clear day.
Soundly has showed it in many videos, using this lake and the bridge as reference.
You could also just drive a car over the bridge. At the midpoint of the bridge in the middle of the lake, you will not see either shore. That's not possible on a flat plane.
Here, you can take the trip yourself and see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZMdIsBvMRs
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 18:25:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsAug 2, 2024 23:51:28 ago (+4/-2)
A simple map and a straight edge. Draw 2 lines. Calculate distance. Boom! Proof.
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 4 points 9 monthsAug 2, 2024 23:59:44 ago (+8/-4)
A straight edge is a precision tool used to find level, which is a flat, horizontal surface.
Boom globetard globalists btfo
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:04:42 ago (+4/-3)
And in this case, it can be used to prove that the earth cannot possibly be flat and can only be a sphere.
A line isn't a flat earth geometry tool, ya dumb fuck.
The GPS model is a sphere. And while I can provide a spherical map with a scale for distance, you have to ignore the facts and can't even post a fuckin map of your imaginary earth that includes a scale for distance. A basic fuckin scale and you can't do it. Just like you can't even begin to explain how GPS would work in a flat earth and provide altitude information.
[ + ] heroinwinsagain
[ - ] heroinwinsagain 4 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 03:17:09 ago (+6/-2)
What is elevation of a GPS point? (Definition)
The GPS coordinates contain only 2 pieces of information: latitude and longitude on the terrestrial globe. Altitude (or elevation, or z value) is the height of the point on Earth, relative to the sea level which is counted as the base altitude (0 meters).
How to calculate the elevation of a GPS point?
Altitude cannot be calculated from coordinates directly, there is not and never will be a calculation formula.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 05:56:31 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 08:57:33 ago (+1/-1)
Go fuck yourself.
[ + ] heroinwinsagain
[ - ] heroinwinsagain 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 03:10:18 ago (+4/-3)
[ + ] Thyhorrorcosmic103
[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 05:04:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 05:26:18 ago (+1/-1)
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When you raise your altitude, the horizon remains at eye level, it is not geometric, it is optical. A matter of perspective.
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[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:58:34 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 00:50:31 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] heroinwinsagain
[ - ] heroinwinsagain -1 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 03:13:37 ago (+3/-4)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 10:48:37 ago (+0/-0)
I CAN GO OUTSIDE NAKED N LAY ON MY BACK RI
IF I LOOK AT MY DICK WHEN IT STAND UP N THEN LOOK PAST THE CURVE OF DEEZ NUTZ
I CAN SEE YO MAMA A HOE
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 08:34:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 07:31:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PhimoticEmbrace
[ - ] PhimoticEmbrace 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 01:51:43 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 05:55:30 ago (+3/-1)
You should be spending time learning to not rely on the jews for your food and medicine. Yet you waste time on the shape of the planet
Is your farm set up yet?
Do you have a White family started yet?
If not, you don't have time to be wasting on shit a bunch of mommy's basement babies ideas.
[ + ] PhimoticEmbrace
[ - ] PhimoticEmbrace 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 12:46:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 14:55:39 ago (+0/-0)
What did you mean?
[ + ] PhimoticEmbrace
[ - ] PhimoticEmbrace 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:54:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 20:46:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PhimoticEmbrace
[ - ] PhimoticEmbrace 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 19:07:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 8 monthsAug 4, 2024 23:02:00 ago (+0/-0)
If I'm having fun and also teaching some lurkers that FE is the joke (along with any whom worship the jewish idea) then I'm satisfied. Even if I don't I still got my entertainment out of it.
[ + ] Rowdybme
[ - ] Rowdybme -1 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 01:47:27 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 02:01:09 ago (+3/-2)
If you can't tell that the jews are specially evil, you're a moron.
[ + ] Rowdybme
[ - ] Rowdybme -2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 02:15:53 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 02:23:26 ago (+3/-1)
But hey, if you want to prove me wrong, find a group of whites who used child sex trafficking to sexually blackmail world leaders.
[ + ] Rowdybme
[ - ] Rowdybme 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 02:48:27 ago (+3/-3)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 06:57:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 09:48:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] jerkofalltrades
[ - ] jerkofalltrades 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 06:57:31 ago (+0/-0)
The problem arises when you allow them to organize politically. If you do the math you arrive at the conclusion that after two thousand years of diaspora they should have been incorporated into their host society.
They didn't because of racism. Their racism. Not mixing with goys is literally in their holy book. After all they are the chosen ones.
So for two thousand years they have self selected for ethnic hatred against white people. The nice Jews literally stopped being Jews along the way by breeding outside their own race.
That is why we are incompatible.