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What to make of Atlantis

submitted by jerkofalltrades to Atlantis 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 15:36:41 ago (+4/-0)     (Atlantis)

Concerning the OG (oceanographic that is) fairy tale nothing is really clear. But regardless of whether the myth is based in reality what we can say for sure is that there is a mountain bullshit covering the topic.

If you come in with zero exposure to the lore let me give you a run down:

As Plato relates the story according to Egyptian historians Atlantis was an immensely succesful maritime power whose heartland was swallowed up in a catastrophic flood some 10.000 years ago.

The story in general (dudes being too OP so divine intervention took them down) and the time frame (10.000 years? WTF?) in particular made it hard to believe. In recent years however two datapoints made their way into mainstream wisdom.

Firstly Egypt had to move over and let much older, more mysterious cultures take over the title for cradle of civilization.

Secondly the reality of sudden global catastrophic floods around the time specified by Plato got more or less accepted as fact.

Since the source material is so flimsy (was it a city state, an island, a continent wide civilization?) it has been searched for everywhere on earth - even places like the Himalayas, Antartica or The "Eye of the Sahara".

To get started I emphatically recommend dark journalist's 'hot zone' series since it's really eclectic.

Recently I even started pondering the popular 60's folk rock song "Atlantis" by Irish Singer Donovan (Leitch) and found myself intrigued by the lyrics. It offers based stuff like like "antediluvian kings colonised the world" and "Hail, Atlantis!" that to modern ears sounds unapologetically darwinistic. More importantly Donovan sings about "My antediluvian baby" making the song seem directed towards a female Atlantean of fertile age. Might he be referencing ancient Arayan bloodlines and his desire to enhance his offsprings genetics by mating with a superior race?

In reality he used his status as teenage pop icon to find a californian jewess and father some second rate Hollywood clown (also named Donovan Leitch) before divorcing her eventually. So I guess not.

But who knows? Maybe he was just MK Ultraed. I couldn't find much about his parents and if they had deep state connections but he was definitely caught up in the Beatles' Indian adventures and heavily promoted hippy culture in general. So chances are he was somewhat intelligence adjacent at least. Anyway publicly of course he always maintained the concept of Atlantis was all about spiritual healing and mankind being brothers...

Now let's circle back to the mountain of bullshit again and listen to another song of Donovan with our new found ideas of Donovan being a based believer in ancient Aryan superpowers in mind. Can a descend through some antediluvian cave system to the subterranean land of Agartha be described as "First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is"?


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[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 16:10:00 ago (+2/-0)

I think if there was a factual basis for Atlantis it would have existed in the bronze age or iron age (~3000 yrs ago) and not 10,000 to 15,000 years ago which is the period of gobekli tepe. A tradition of such an ancient society could not survive 10,000 years. Ever play chinese whispers/telephone? Without written records oral stories all turn to unreliable garbage after a few centuries.

The continent if it existed, was simply an island like Santorini or Crete.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 17:13:24 ago (+0/-0)*

Gobekli Tepe has a strange phenomenon in it. The oldest stuff is the best and most intricate stuff, as well as the recently found farming plots having the best soil and layouts. As things get newer and closer to our age they get worse and worse.

I'm thinking that the cataclysm that's been found in the records of ancient trees of ~14,500 years ago is what killed Atlantis. I think that Atlantis was centered around Doggerland. The gene map of certain White alleles spreads out from that area over time.

The tales of that cataclysm tell us it took around 3 to 5 years for crops to be able to grow again(depending on area) and that the seas rose and mountains spewed fire.

Doggerland island had the shit bombed out of it for a number of decades as well, for whatever (((reason))).

Of course I'm thinking Atlantis as a city-state or small country with highly intelligent Whites creating a good society. In the bronze age it would have been a wonder to behold. Laws, statues, buildings, sailing ships, magical technology in those times. Not as some alien-led hyperion super-state arm of the galactic empire or whatever weird shit people come up with.

Now give it 10,000 years of jews and their ilk mucking up history, burning shit down, melting artifacts, and 'losing' proof of it and you have the modern era 'historians' take of things.

https://files.catbox.moe/qywy7x.jpg

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 18:27:00 ago (+0/-0)

Gobekli Tepe has a strange phenomenon in it. The oldest stuff is the best and most intricate stuff, as well as the recently found farming plots having the best soil and layouts. As things get newer and closer to our age they get worse and worse.

A shift in climate is the most likely explanation of a decline of Gobekli tepe culture.

But there is no evidence of agriculture near doggerland until 4 or 5000 BC. I feel like agriculture is a necessary technology for an “advanced” society.

The gene map of certain White alleles spreads out from that area over time.

Id be interested to know which ones they are. The mesolithic european population (villabruna cluster WHG) that dominated the area from 10,000 BC to 5000 BC were largely replaced by farmers from anatolia but we carry some of their genes. Im not even sure doggerland was habitable as far back as 14,000 BC. Europe was coming out of an ice age then and much of northern Europe was still covered in glaciers. Indigenous Europeans spent the ice age in Spain and Italy and the Caucasus and then moved north into central europe and eventually scandinavia and Britain

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 11:42:51 ago (+0/-0)

Gobekli tepi is some wild shit. Those look like raised walkways to me

[ - ] TheSimulacra 1 point 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 19:39:31 ago (+1/-0)

We call it the Atlantic Ocean....and why?

[ - ] carnold03 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 22:16:51 ago (+0/-0)

I always figured that the Atlantis myth is so common because every civilization builds a city along the coast. Eventually sea levels change and can sometimes lead to towns or cities sinking beneath the waves.

[ - ] BoozyB 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 19:24:44 ago (+0/-0)*

At the end of the last ice age, Lake Agassiz in the northern US and Canada, held back by the retreating glaciers was the largest body of fresh water ever known to have existed on earth.
At that time, the Mediterranean and Black seas were landlocked.
When Lake Agassiz broke through and drained into the North Atlantic and raised sea levels 3-9 feet or more, it eventually breached Gibraltar and the Bosporus, flooding seaside settlements.
I believe this series of events are the basis for the legend of Atlantis and Noah's Ark among others.

https://www.scienceandthesea.org/program/201712/lake-agassiz

[ - ] Peleg 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 18:54:26 ago (+0/-0)

Just ask Patrick Duffy.
He knows all about it.

https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/man-from-atlantis

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 07:55:47 ago (+0/-0)

Ive seen that one!

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 18:46:16 ago (+0/-0)

Was intersting until you started talking about some guy who wrote songs.

[ - ] jerkofalltrades [op] 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 19:46:37 ago (+0/-0)

Well look at it that way, about Atlantis we don't know anything for sure. About pop culture being essentially government run mass formation psychosis we know a great deal more.

Let me explain. Reducing the Jewish stranglehold over the US to mere Zionist occupation is wishful thinking since the New World was basically a kablalist operation from long before Zionism in it modern form was cooked up. Nevertheless the Jews had concentrated their assets in the British empire and weren't shy about it (case in point: this dudes name).

So even when the US finally became the dominant superpower there were still (((British guys))) pulling the strings of social engineering programs in the US.

So Donovan the British hippy (who sure as hell didn't write all his songs by himself) probably was also singing his song about antediluvian kings to American kids as some sort of cultural hypnosis. Exactly why the came to pass I don't know. Let's be real here. It's likely just stupid Jewish mind games. Feeding into fairy tales of Atlantis could feasibly distract people from investigating real ancient global civs. Look up "red haired giants" and the "elongated skull" cult to fill in the blanks.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 18:46:09 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 17:03:11 ago (+0/-0)*

Well Atlantis means the City or Island of Atlas.

There was a City of Atlas in ancient Mauritania

The Eye of Africa is essentially in Mauritania

The Eye of Africa exactly matches Homers dimension for Atlantis

The Eye of Africa is a ringed location created by repeated uplifting and sinking

It would be essentially an Island City of Atlas

The whole area used to be covered in water

Would it be surprising if a place known for sinking, sank?

Where would survivors go? Egypt and Spain - like the Basque people with their strange unknown origin unique language - and claim they are from Atlantis

Why would there be indigenous white people in Africa? What about the indigenous Amazing - Berbers

There are ancient maps indicating the Atlantis was where the Eye of Africa is.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 11:43:51 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah but did they find pots and shit?

[ - ] jerkofalltrades [op] 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 20:07:09 ago (+0/-0)

Would they tell you if they did?

They seem to constantly find new shit on the god damn Great Pyramid. Which is the most studied ancient object in the planet. Yet we never get to see much of those 'unexplored' rooms that they scanned...

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 21:59:10 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah that's all tourist shit

[ - ] jerkofalltrades [op] 0 points 9 monthsAug 1, 2024 20:08:53 ago (+0/-0)

I also watch jimmy :)