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@big_fat_dangus makes a flat Earth post in a sub that I'm banned in because he's scared of me and this picture.

submitted by McNasty to SPACEisFAKEandGAY 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 18:52:31 ago (+3/-4)     (SPACEisFAKEandGAY)

The Flaws in Heliocentric Claims: Gravity, Atmosphere, and Lunar Tides

https://files.catbox.moe/lkcyvy.png

The heliocentric model, which posits that the Earth revolves around the Sun and the Moon orbits the Earth, is deeply ingrained in modern scientific thought. However, this model contains several inconsistencies and contradictions, especially when examining the behavior of our atmosphere and the influence of gravitational forces. By exploring these contradictions, we can expose the weaknesses in heliocentric claims regarding the atmosphere and the Moon's effect on tides.

The Atmosphere and the Vacuum of Space

One of the most glaring issues with the heliocentric model is the explanation of how our pressurized atmosphere can exist next to the near-perfect vacuum of space. According to the second law of thermodynamics, gases should naturally move from areas of higher pressure to lower pressure until equilibrium is reached. In this case, the high-pressure atmosphere should expand into the vacuum of space, yet this does not happen.

Proponents of the heliocentric model argue that gravity prevents this expansion. They claim that gravity, even at its weakest point on the edge of the atmosphere, is sufficient to keep the gases from dissipating into space. However, this explanation is fraught with problems. Gravity's pull weakens with distance, and at the edge of the atmosphere, it is significantly weaker than at the Earth's surface. The notion that this feeble gravitational pull can counteract the natural tendency of gases to expand into a vacuum is highly questionable.

The Moon and Tides

The explanation for tides in the heliocentric model further complicates the picture. It is claimed that the Moon's gravity is strong enough to cause high and low tides on Earth. This implies that the Moon's gravitational pull can influence the Earth's oceans, which are under the strongest influence of Earth's gravity. If the Moon can exert such a force on the Earth's oceans, then logically, the Moon's gravity should have an even stronger effect as we move upwards from the Earth's surface towards the Moon.

At higher altitudes, the Earth's gravitational pull weakens, while the Moon's influence would ostensibly become stronger. Therefore, at the edge of the atmosphere facing the Moon, both the Earth's and the Moon's gravitational forces should be competing for the same matter. This competition is further complicated by the presence of the vacuum of space, which would naturally draw the atmospheric gases outward.

Competing Gravitational Forces

If the Moon's gravity can pull on the water at the Earth's surface, where Earth's gravity is strongest, it stands to reason that this pull would be even more pronounced at higher altitudes, where Earth's gravity is weaker. Consequently, the gases in the atmosphere at the edge facing the Moon should be caught in a tug-of-war between the Earth's and the Moon's gravitational forces. The vacuum of space would add another layer of complexity, as it would exert a force causing the gases to expand outward.

This situation leads to a paradox: if gravity is indeed responsible for holding the atmosphere in place, then the Moon's gravitational pull should disrupt this balance, particularly at the edge of the atmosphere. The competing forces of Earth's gravity, the Moon's gravity, and the vacuum of space create a scenario that the heliocentric model fails to adequately explain.

Conclusion

The heliocentric claims that gravity can hold the atmosphere in place and that the Moon causes tides on Earth are fraught with inconsistencies. The second law of thermodynamics dictates that gases should expand into a vacuum, yet we are told gravity prevents this, even at its weakest point. Furthermore, if the Moon's gravity can cause tides on Earth, it should also significantly affect the atmosphere, particularly at higher altitudes where Earth's gravitational pull weakens. The heliocentric model's inability to reconcile these competing forces and natural laws highlights its flaws and calls into question its validity. By examining these inconsistencies, we can see that the explanations provided by the heliocentric model are not only implausible but also contradictory.


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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 4 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:30:26 ago (+5/-1)

No one is scared of you. You’re terrified of us.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:32:31 ago (+1/-2)

Thanks for admitting you're wrong. Repent.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 4 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:36:56 ago (+5/-1)

The Sun sets. Kill self.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:29:43 ago (+0/-2)

Thanks for admitting you're wrong. Now repent and ask for forgiveness.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:21:29 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:01:39 ago (+4/-1)

I have observable evidence that you're retarded.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:44:32 ago (+1/-2)

You're a jew. You're simply not credible.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:25:51 ago (+3/-0)

Gravity does not even exist

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:27:38 ago (+1/-3)

Electrostatics exist. Does a piece of styrofoam defy gravity when it sticks to your hand?

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:50:49 ago (+2/-0)

Flat erf!

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:53:28 ago (+0/-1)

All you got to do is explain why the moon's gravity can beat the Earth's gravity at the surface but not at the edge of the atmosphere.

You have the retarded claim to defend.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:55:32 ago (+2/-0)

Okay!

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 1 point 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 22:30:54 ago (+1/-0)

I was kidding. The earth is an oblate spheroid.

[ - ] Drstrangestgov 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 22:15:07 ago (+0/-0)

I was kidding. The earth is an oblate spheroid.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 22:16:16 ago (+0/-1)

I can tell by all the pictures.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 22:16:30 ago (+0/-1)

I can tell by all the pictures.

[ - ] mikenigger 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:46:44 ago (+2/-0)

block all the dingus subs, it's all cringe boomer shit

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:15:58 ago (+2/-0)

Yes, run away like kikenigger jidf.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:33:38 ago (+0/-2)

Lol. You faggots at JIDF aren't allowed to block anybody. That's why you obsess over subjects like flat Earth. Like niggerspic, he will advise other people to block me But they won't block me himself because they are not allowed. It's their job to pay attention to that kind of information and then try to subvert it.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 02:52:36 ago (+1/-0)

Says the retard paid by tel aviv jews to spread their flat tard lie.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:50:42 ago (+1/-2)

I don't block anybody unless they're spam pinging me. But I'll unblock them when they calm down.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:54:51 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:55:30 ago (+2/-2)

Just one dude. Wouldn't have even made this post if that faggot didn't ban me.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 31, 2024 00:40:46 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:36:36 ago (+2/-0)

Have you tried crying harder, brainlet?

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:37:33 ago (+3/-3)

Lol. You're welcome to make a comment in my sub anytime. I don't act like pussy.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:40:09 ago (+3/-0)

I don't associate with brainlets. Good luck with your retard piggie trough.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:40:58 ago (+2/-3)

Well, here you are. Crying to me about it.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:44:07 ago (+3/-1)

What I'm doing is teabagging your dumb ass yet again. Keep sobbing.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:45:25 ago (+2/-3)

No. You're painting a star of David on yourself.

You faggots make it obvious when you can't admit that NASA was developed by jews.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:47:39 ago (+2/-0)

This is just your standard procedure of calling something jewish when you don't understand it. Given that you're a certified retard who understands very little, it's a bit like crying wolf at this point. Mcnasty doesn't understand. Mcnasty calls it jewish. Yawn. We already know you're retarded dude.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:49:18 ago (+2/-3)

If you can't answer that simple question, it just tells everybody what they need to know. Sure, you're going to object to it and accuse me of a lot of things. But you won't answer the question.

Was NASA developed by jews?

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:56:53 ago (+2/-0)

NASA isn't relevant to the discussion about flat earth or heliocentrism unless NASA is being used as a source for information.

Do jewish Kabbalah teaching and the foundations upon which the entire belief system is based, depend upon a flat earth and geocenterism?

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:57:56 ago (+2/-3)

Sure, NASA is relevant. They are the ones you're getting these claims from. Any cosmological claim pre-space flight is an assumption. To say otherwise is retarded.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:05:15 ago (+3/-1)

Are Guyford Stever, Dwight D Eisenhower, and Hugh Latimer Dryden jewish? Those are the founders of NASA.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:46:13 ago (+2/-2)

Are Guyford Stever, Dwight D Eisenhower, and Hugh Latimer Dryden jewish?

The Federal Reserve Act was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on December 23, 1913.

Your presidents are zog puppets.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:48:18 ago (+1/-1)

Are Guyford Stever, Dwight D Eisenhower, and Hugh Latimer Dryden jewish?

The Federal Reserve Act was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on December 23, 1913.

Your presidents are zog puppets.

[ - ] bosunmoon 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:06:53 ago (+2/-0)

Our earth is roundish and it has a hollow core.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:16:15 ago (+2/-2)

Nobody has ever dug more than 8 mi. Lol. Any claim made is bullshit.

According to your model, when did they figure this whole core thing out? It's a joke.

[ - ] bosunmoon 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:19:21 ago (+2/-0)

It's just how it is.
It doesn't have a model.
There aren't any swindling heebs to make one.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:21:20 ago (+2/-2)

There aren't any swindling heebs to make one.

It's stupid to assume anything without objective evidence. That's why the Earth is flat and stationary. I do not feel like I am moving. Shit looks flat.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:32:39 ago (+2/-0)

I do not feel like I am moving.

Is this what you call "objective evidence"?

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:50:59 ago (+1/-2)

Yes. I can stack stones by the river side. That is objective proof that the Earth is stationary.

[ - ] bosunmoon 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:44:50 ago (+2/-0)

Nobody anywhere has evidence of one or the other.
The universe is recursive, and everything is fake and gay.
We're on a peeled orange with a glow in the dark marble inside.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:46:15 ago (+1/-1)

Nobody anywhere has evidence of one or the other.

I have observable evidence. I do not feel like I'm moving and shit looks flat. That is the default until proven otherwise.

[ - ] bosunmoon 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:03:16 ago (+2/-0)

I live on the ocean and When I look out at the horizon I see a curve.
You are wrong.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:49:50 ago (+2/-2)

That's not what the space nigger pope says.

https://youtu.be/rE3QOj6t48c

At that height, you don't see the curvature of the Earth. You just don't. That stuff is flat.

[ - ] bosunmoon 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 21:12:08 ago (+2/-0)

Still wrong.
I just checked.
It's got curvature.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 21:26:19 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. Sure. And the moon's gravity can beat the Earth at the surface but not at the edge of the atmosphere. Your beliefs are retarded and contradictory.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:53:31 ago (+1/-1)

It has been proven otherwise. You can observe the distance between two points.

You can observe the blatant descepencies between a flat earth model and reality with regard to distance. You can observe how the discrepancies are removed by distorting the clearly flawed flat earth model into a spherical model.

You can observe that the scale of a spherical map of the earth exactly matches observable distances, while no scale is ever provided for any flat earth model, makes these types of observations possible on a flat earth model.

You can observe that the sun rises and sets at specific times in specific places. You can also observe that the flat earth model is not possible with the observable sunrises and sunsets while the spherical model of earth explains these observable things easily and sensibly.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:54:09 ago (+2/-2)

You have to explain why the Earth can beat the moon in the atmosphere but lose to the moon on the surface.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:58:49 ago (+1/-1)

I have. 3 times, but you seem to retarded to understand 9th grade math.

F=F1+F2
F*=MG
G=M1M1/d^2

This isn't hard.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:59:42 ago (+2/-3)

That equation means nothing. I'm asking you how to make an apple pie and you're taking a dump on the table.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:39:30 ago (+2/-1)

I do not feel like I am moving

No one does, unless they are moving relative to their inertia moving with the earth. This, again, is an issue with your learning disability. You are too stupid to understand that an object on the earth, moves with the earth. Sorry dude but you're just dumb.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:52:11 ago (+2/-2)

You claim that all the planets have elliptical orbits. This means that they change acceleration constantly. We are told we don't feel like we're moving because we have a constant movement. This is contradicting.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 20:01:00 ago (+2/-1)

You claim that all the planets have elliptical orbits.

I have never said this. Flat tard playbook #2: 2. This is what YOU think! (some bullshit completely unrelated to what you said)

This means that they change acceleration constantly.

No, it does not. You are retarded. Do you even understand what an orbit is?

We are told we don't feel like we're moving because we have a constant movement. This is contradicting.

No, it is not. It is explained perfectly by the concept of momentum. You are so stupid you think and orbit and therefore momentum mean constant acceleration. You are wrong.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 18:56:04 ago (+4/-2)

The earth cannot possibly be flat.

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=66a63ecd27027

The biggest problem are distances on the flat earth. Only distances exactly north-south are correct. All other distances are wrong, especially south of the equator, eg. Australia is 2.5 times too wide on the flat earth.

Seen here.
https://files.catbox.moe/atwc9a.jpg

Only if we deform the flat earth until it is a globe we can get all distances right.

ONLY IF ... get all the distances right.

The distance from Perth Australia to Ushuaia Argentina is 6450 miles.

The distance from Ottawa Canada to Bejing China is 6911.

This is only possible on a spherical earth.

The Earth can only be sphere. It's the only reasonable shape that explains this.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 18:57:06 ago (+2/-2)

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:05:55 ago (+4/-1)

How much gravity would be needed to hold hydrogen molecules in earth's orbit? And, why would you think the moon's gravity could overcome the earth's gravity near the earth?

Who has ever suggested that molecules don't leave the earth's atmosphere and isn't it also reasonable that the earth's gravitational field could capture free floating molecules in space?

Why not just address the issues being raised?

Disingenuous fucking nigger.

That's why.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:12:11 ago (+2/-3)*

How much gravity would be needed to hold hydrogen molecules

This is pretty simple. You have to explain why the Earth's gravity is beating the moon's gravity in the vacuum at the edge of the atmosphere. When right underneath it, the moon's gravity is beating the Earth's gravity at the surface creating ocean tides. This is a contradiction.

What is holding the atmosphere to the Earth on the side that is facing the Moon?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:21:50 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:28:49 ago (+0/-1)

You have to explain why the Earth's gravity is beating the moon's gravity in the vacuum at the edge of the atmosphere.

That's incredibly simple.

G=M1M2/d^2

M1 would be the earth or moon
M2 would be the molecule in question
And d^2 would be the square of the distance between M1 and M2.

The moon is tiny compared to the earth and the molecule, even at its outer limits of the atmosphere is much, much closer to the earth's center of gravity than the moon's.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

And no, the moon's gravity is not "beating" the earth's gravity with the water to cause tides. Why would you think that? You see water molecules floating off toward the moon? The moon's gravity doesn't even come close to breaking water's surface tension, much less earth's gravity.

Did you graduate from an actual grade school?

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:31:28 ago (+2/-2)

Dude. I don't care about your chatgpt bullshit dude.

I can get chat AI to contradict itself all day. It will say "you are correct" when I tell it that it's wrong and then it will repeat the same. Bullshit you're copying and pasting right now.

There is no argument for it. Heliocentrism is objectively false. There is no explanation for how the atmosphere can stay bound to the Earth. The claim of gravity is false if the Moon has a gravitational effect on the earth.

It's that simple and your AI ramblings won't fix it.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:36:16 ago (+3/-0)

Mcretard is literally so stupid he doesn't understand water and air are two different things with different physical properties. Yes, really, Yes, someone really can be that stupid and still capable of breathing, apparently. Mcnasty? More like microcephaly.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:38:41 ago (+1/-3)

So what makes the Earth's gravity different than the moon's gravity?

Are you purposely pretending like the moon and the Earth wouldn't be competing over the same matter in the same conditions? Why is the Earth automatically better at holding air than the moon?

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:41:18 ago (+3/-0)

So what makes the Earth's gravity different than the moon's gravity?

Lmao oh don't know bud, maybe the fact that the earth is vastly larger than the moon? Fucking moron LOL. Next time at least make an attempt to use your brain before posting.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 22:31:03 ago (+0/-2)

No. I don't know. Gravity is gravity. If the moon can pull up the ocean then it is stronger than the Earth gravity. It doesn't get weaker the closer we get to the Moon you retard.

Well, It's all just a fantasy so none of it is true. You're just a retard for believing such nonsense.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:41:13 ago (+2/-0)

So what makes the Earth's gravity different than the moon's gravity?

The size of the earth versus the size of the moon, and the distance away from the object being acted upon by the gravity of each.

G = M1M2/d^2

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:39:37 ago (+3/-0)

F = F1 + F2

There isn't winners and losers. Both the moon and earth have gravity and they can work in conjunction using simple angular math.

Gravity is exactly how the atmosphere stays "bound" to earth.

You never answered the question. What is the difference in the gravitational constant of the earth at sea level versus the outer edge of the atmosphere? What is the moon's gravitational constant at moon's surface versus the edge of the earth's (not moon's) atmosphere? It's not zero. It has an affect. This shit is common fucking sense easily backed by math, physically demonstrated in reality, and what seems like obviousness.

The earth cannot possibly be flat.

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=66a63ecd27027

The biggest problem are distances on the flat earth. Only distances exactly north-south are correct. All other distances are wrong, especially south of the equator, eg. Australia is 2.5 times too wide on the flat earth.

Seen here.
https://files.catbox.moe/atwc9a.jpg

Only if we deform the flat earth until it is a globe we can get all distances right.

ONLY IF ... get all the distances right.

The distance from Perth Australia to Ushuaia Argentina is 6450 miles.

The distance from Ottawa Canada to Bejing China is 6911.

This is only possible on a spherical earth.

The Earth can only be sphere. It's the only reasonable shape that explains this.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:40:32 ago (+2/-2)

My picture says it all.

https://files.catbox.moe/lkcyvy.png

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:44:09 ago (+3/-0)

Yes. It screams "LOOK
AT ME, I'M A FUCKING RETARD!" We all see it.

https://files.catbox.moe/0gq5y5.jpg

[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:44:49 ago (+2/-1)

You think The Earth can beat the moon at the edge of the atmosphere, but the moon can beat the Earth on the surface under the same spot. Retarded.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2024 19:42:59 ago (+3/-1)

It says that you're retarded. Which we already knew.