Here's a picture of the entire city of Chicago from the Michigan shoreline.
https://files.catbox.moe/o3hnot.jpg![]()
Here's an abc57 article talking about the picture.
https://www.abc57.com/news/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shorelineFrom the article:
A picture of the Chicago skyline taken almost 60 miles away, is actually a mirage. This is a form of Superior Mirage, superior in this meaning the mirage or image of the skyline is seen above where it's actually located.
The article has to claim this because from where the picture was taken, there should be over 2,000 feet of obstruction caused by the supposed curvature of the earth, but yet we see the entire city of Chicago which has its tallest building, the Willis Tower, standing at 1,729 feet tall.
Every single time I see an image that shows an object that should be hidden beneath a supposed physical horizon caused by the supposed curvature of the globular Earth, I'm told it's a "mirage" or that it's "refraction." So they claim that curvature still exists but the lack thereof is only an illusion. I'm going to address this fallacy and prove that mirages and refraction do not create such an illusion.
Let's start with mirages.
The claim in the article is that a "superior mirage" is what's causing the illusion. What's a mirage? It's a reflection. A reflection is the act of light reflecting back. Reflections cause inversion.
Here's an example of a "superior mirage."
https://files.catbox.moe/huri1b.jpg![]()
Notice the inverted image of the ship above its true position. The ship is reflecting off the atmosphere above it.
Here's an example of an "inferior mirage."
https://files.catbox.moe/eeg4ad.jpg![]()
Notice the inverted image of the ship below its true position. The ship is reflecting off the surface below it.
The differences between "superior" and "inferior" are simply the position of the mirage.
Is the article suggesting that the mirage is somehow a projected image above the object's true location and without inversion? Maybe they meant to say "Fata Morgana," a "complex" form of superior mirage visible in a narrow band right above the horizon.
So it's "complex." What makes it so complex? Basically, the only thing complex about it is that it's actually not a mirage at all but a misinterpretation of what is called a "false horizon."
Here's an example of a "false horizon."
https://files.catbox.moe/9az794.jpg![]()
Notice the image on the left. It appears to be a ship floating in mid-air. If we were to change the color temperature in the photo, like we see in the image on the right, we can see that it's actually not floating in mid-air but is floating on a section of water that is experiencing a mirage effect. It's caused by a change in the refractive index due to the high temperature near the water and the lower temperature above it. Remember, mirages are reflections. It is reflecting the sky above it, giving the illusion that it itself is part of the sky. So technically, it's just an "inferior mirage" of the sky. Notice where the mirage ends. It's creating a "false horizon." This type of inferior mirage can also be seen on solid surfaces.
Here's an example of an asphalt road experiencing the same type of inferior mirage.
https://files.catbox.moe/o4ctaa.jpeg![]()
The reality is, there is no such thing as a mirage that can be seen as a non-inverted image projecting above an object's true position. The only examples that exist are provably misinterpreted false horizons.
Now that we've established that the Chicago photo isn't caused by a "mirage," let us take a look at the possibility that refraction's causing the illusion.
Refraction's the process by which light shifts its path as it travels through a material, causing the light to bend. That's what refraction is, but most people misunderstand the effect of refraction.
Here's an example of refraction.
https://files.catbox.moe/e9ehww.jpg![]()
Notice you are viewing the pencil as it exists in two different mediums. From your position you see that above the water, the pencil is surrounded by air as you'd normally see it. As it enters The denser medium water, which acts as a lens that bends light, you see that it magnifies the pencil. A lens has limitations though. When an object is magnified within a lens, the entire image is expanded from the center of the lens outward, cutting off the edges that no longer fit in the lens. Since the pencil isn't directly in the center of the image being magnified, it expands outward, giving the illusion of a broken pencil. Also notice that you cannot see the eraser anymore because the bottom of the image is also cut off when it is magnified.
Here's another example that shows what a pencil would do in 3 different positions.
https://files.catbox.moe/yzyz9b.jpg![]()
Notice the image on the far left. The pencil is positioned in the center of the glass. The lens magnifies the image from the center outward. Since the pencil is in the center, it remains in its horizontal position but magnifies, only cutting off the top and bottom slightly. Now notice the image on the far right. The pencil's placed close to the left edge of the lens. Since the lens is magnifying the image from the center of the lens outward, part of the pencil is cut off due to the limitation of the lens not being able to fit the entire image that's now being magnified.
Now that we understand what both reflection and refraction is, and the actual effects they create, let me give you an example of refraction occurring naturally in the atmosphere.
https://youtu.be/Y0bQm8sJwd4This is called the "Shrinking Mill" because of the refraction that occurs regularly in this area. Notice the object being refracted is magnified at a distance, then reduces in size as it's approached. This effect is no different than holding a magnifying glass out from your face and bringing it closer. You'll notice the closer the magnifying glass is to your face, objects will appear smaller, allowing more of the object to fit inside the lens.
Here's a video of an experiment anyone can do debunking the globohomo claim that the atmosphere isn't magnifying things.
https://youtu.be/YG40kkbh734Here are some practical experiments that can show you the results we see in our observable reality.
https://youtu.be/UFP4HQQoejsHere's an example of how refraction would actually prevent you from seeing objects at great distances.
https://youtu.be/s-PhStb6mTQNotice how objects at the bottom of the lens disappear as it magnifies. This is because our apparent horizon acts as the bottom of the lens as it's at the bottom of the medium creating the magnification effect.
This is how refraction works. It doesn't magically project an image of an object above its true position. Not only is it nonsense to say it's refraction that allows one to see an object beyond a supposed physical horizon caused by supposed curvature, it's asinine because refraction would actually do the opposite and hide an image you actually could see if it wasn't being magnified by refraction.
Being able to see the entire city of Chicago from the shoreline of Michigan is due to the atmospheric conditions creating a LACK OF REFRACTION and it's NOT producing a magnifying effect, allowing the bottom of the lens to be viewed as normal. Like taking the water that's causing refraction out of the glass, allowing you to see the pencil as it truly is.
If we were to view a picture of Chicago from the shoreline of Michigan on a different day with different atmospheric conditions, we will get different results. Like the following.
https://files.catbox.moe/f1g8jb.jpeg![]()
Conclusion: There is no curvature to the earth and any claim that a mirage or refraction can bend light in such a way as to project an image above an object's true position making a globe Earth appear flat is just false. It simply does not work that way and not a single bit of evidence exists that would suggest otherwise.
[ + ] Cantaloupe
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[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:10:06 ago (+3/-1)*
Let's eliminate the debate about refraction, entirely.
Show me 1 picture of an object that should be over the horizon but that you can see, except instead of it being over a spance of water, have it be over a spance of land.
If there is no curvature, you should be able to take a picture of something right where you're at.
You won't, cause you can't, cause the earth most certainly has curvature, and you fucking know it.
Also, just FYI, there is proof of curvature in that photo. You can't see the bases of any of the buildings on that Chicago shoreline. Because even the refraction can bend the light that much.
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
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[ + ] DitchPig
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Do you even English, dipshit?
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[ + ] DitchPig
[ - ] DitchPig -2 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 18:39:24 ago (+0/-2)
What does that mean?
Like someone opened a door at 40,000'?
No, BTFO means "back the fuck off".
Fucking retard, commie (((educated))) youngers keep trying to change the meaning of words.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 18:41:09 ago (+0/-0)
library services please
[ + ] DitchPig
[ - ] DitchPig -2 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 18:42:27 ago (+0/-2)
It's idiot niggerspeak.
BTFO has meant back the fuck off since telegraph days, which is where most of the txt abbreviations originate.
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kek
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[ + ] DitchPig
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Fucking paedophile, neck yourself.
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Stop crying to @system you little bitch.
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[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -3 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:25:57 ago (+0/-3)
No. I'm not humor in your stupid jew logic. Heliocentrism isn't denying that photograph. I provided the article that has their explanation.
So if you want to move goal posts and just pretend like you faggots aren't making a claim, then fuck off I guess. Why would I argue with you if you're going to deny your own side of the argument?
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 4 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:41:39 ago (+4/-0)
You have conceded the challenge. Commit suicide immediately, jew.
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[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 21:28:23 ago (+0/-1)
You can't win this. Lol. Anyone with a brain knows how to discern that picture. Lol.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 22:11:34 ago (+1/-0)
Cool, commit suicide. You already got linked to an explanation.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 22:15:18 ago (+0/-1)
Are both irrelevant when you use a frame of reference like the moon to superimpose the pictures on top of each other and compare sizes.
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That's the magnificent thing about the experiments I present. You have the ability to change all those variables yourself without relying on jew.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 4 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:40:45 ago (+5/-1)
Just kill yourself.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:43:18 ago (+2/-3)
https://files.catbox.moe/1fe82j.jpg
Lol. Tell me some more like lines now.
[ + ] Nonanonanon
[ - ] Nonanonanon 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2024 01:55:32 ago (+1/-0)
Again you cant do science comparing random photos from different cameras at different magnifications.
Nigger.
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[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2024 15:00:33 ago (+0/-0)
Because normal people that aren't retarded can use context in a conversation. A normal person would know that my argument is that the ISS would be too far away at 250 mi for the human eye to decipher its angular resolution.
I'm just trying to establish if you agree that angular resolution is real or if you can see any object for an infinite amount of distance.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2024 16:08:28 ago (+0/-0)
What's in question is whether it is orbiting at 250 mi or not.