???. That was pretty random. Well, not if you consider the fact that jews always accuse people of what they are guilty of. Is that what you're doing. You got spanked on this flat earth so your argument is that I got spanked? Lol. This picture alone just shows what a retarded kike you are. Lol.
So airplanes and the ISS are the same size because of refraction? I don't know. I'm just trying to think of something a heliocentric retard would come up with since you refused to answer any questions yourself.
How is it a straw man? Are you claiming that the ISS is not orbiting the Earth around 250 mi above the surface? Or are you claiming that airplanes do not typically fly at 1 mile? You ain't ever heard of the mile high club?
You say you want 'a model' but you ignore the model given. Instead moving goalposts.
You say 'distance','distance','distance'! But you offer no proof of your claimed distance either. You literally just appeal to authority.
The model given to you literally explains eclipses. But you ignore it, just like you ignore the evidence of your own eyes that tells you the horizon is flat, and just like you ignore the evidence your own inner ears provide you that tells you the earth is not moving.
You are the disingenuous nigger you howl and cry about, you hypocrite.
I want a model WITH A SCALE FOR DISTANCE. I'm not moving the goalposts. If you post a model WITH A SCALE FOR DISTANCE, I will use it to prove that your model cannot possibly be a representation of reality. Its not hard to understand.
The distance from Perth Australia to Ushuaia Argentina is 6450 miles.
The distance from Ottawa Canada to Bejing China is 6911.
Both of these things cannot be remotely true on a flat earth. This isn't hard.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 20:09:22 ago (+1/-0)
Prove it. That's a claim. Prove it.
Draw a straight line from Perth to Ushaia. Then, draw a straight line from Ottawa to Bejing on your flat earth model. Which line is longer?
On the globe model, the Perth to Usuaia is the shortest line. On the flat earth model, it's the line from Ottawa to Bejing, which is wrong by hundreds of miles.
On a flat earth model it looks like Usuaia is much further away from Perth than Ottawa is from Bejing. Completely wrong and Not even close.
Then, when you look at the actual shortest path plotted between the cities, you'd see that on the GPS model the shortest path for each of the lines, you'd be shown a slightly curved line on the spherical model but a fucking semi-circle line on flat earth models. Again, way the fuck obvious and blatantly wrong.
Are you going to say the GPS isn't actuate? To within hundreds of miles? Despite the fact that literally billions of people use it, every day, without anomaly, accurate to within feet?
How fucking stupid are you willing to show yourself to be?
Do you acknowledge that using our current GPS system will give you positioning within 3 feet of accuracy, regardless of how you think the results are obtained?
Or, are you actually denying that GPS, however you think it works, exists or accurate at all?
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 20:11:47 ago (+1/-0)*
I didn't say anything about how GPS works. I asked if you acknowledge that it's accurate when determining distances between two points, in. This case Ottawa to Bejing and Perth to Usuaia (the southern tip of south America). Notice you didn't answer.
They will usually jump on any post to mock it and make it seem stupid but I'm a different kind of flat earther. The average FE person will be convinced by a specific proof but get jammed up with irrelevant questions. Like trying to explain that the chimney wasn't attached to the building in Auschwitz. They interrupt with a million irrelevant questions about the other jews lies. Me? There is literally nothing that I don't have the answer for. They found that out so now they avoid me.
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions? Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator? Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles? Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy? Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques? Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator? Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth? Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative? Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”? Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented? If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.” If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth? A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist? Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth? Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up? The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives? What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year? How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle. Why does the North Star goes to the horizon? Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres? Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south? If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form? If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath? Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye? How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere? Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
Lol. Heliocentricity claims everything is in an elliptical orbit. Why have all the stars remained in the same position relative to each other throughout the entirety of history?
Also, you're a retard that can't grasp how perception works. here's an interactive model debunking your retarded star claims.
A globe Earther made the model to debunk flat earth. Lol. His reason why he believes he debunked it is because he used heliocentricity numbers for the cosmic bodies which are incorrect. But the interactive example of how perception works when looking at a dome firmament is spot on accurate.
Thank you for admitting you are physically incapable of answering any questions about your claimed beliefs and also for admitting the Earth is not flat.
Heliocentricity claims everything is in an elliptical orbit.
K.
Why have all the stars remained in the same position relative to each other throughout the entirety of history?
They haven’t. Even historical records show that. Kill yourself, retard.
Also, you're a retard that can't grasp how perception works.
LITERALLY MY LINE. “OY VEY PARALLAX DOESN’T REAL” ~ flat earthers
here's an interactive model debunking your retarded star claims.
Your own link disproves your claims, you subhuman retard.
A globe Earther made the model to debunk flat earth. Lol.
It worked.
His reason why he believes he debunked it is because he used heliocentricity numbers for the cosmic bodies which are incorrect.
So… where’s your model?
But the interactive example of how perception works when looking at a dome firmament is spot on accurate.
So light just magically bends around… what?
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions? Why does the North Star goes to the horizon? Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
Thank you for admitting you are physically incapable of answering any questions
I literally answer every question you faggots have. That's why you hate me so much.
You're just butt hurt because I found the kryptonite. You cannot disagree that people see the ISS. It is objectively retarded to think you could see the ISS if it were an outer space.
You can't win this.
All you have to do is answer this one question and I'll go away forever.
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 6 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:41:06 ago (+6/-0)
The fun can never last forever unless you're debating a NPC. But at that point it's just boring.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:44:34 ago (+2/-3)
They never prove me wrong. They are defeated.
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:50:17 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:55:40 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:48:55 ago (+2/-1)
This proves that you're wrong.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:52:14 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 17:33:35 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 17:37:34 ago (+1/-0)
The jew cries out in pain as it strikes you.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 17:41:08 ago (+0/-1)
https://files.catbox.moe/1fe82j.jpg
You want to do some more jew speak? Do a little accusing of what you were guilty of? Lol. Let's see it.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 18:13:16 ago (+0/-0)
Sad, really. No wonder your people are confused when you’re slaughtered.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 18:18:22 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 18:26:34 ago (+1/-0)
Kill self.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 18:28:13 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 4 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:44:48 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 15:14:04 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 15:19:45 ago (+3/-2)
https://files.catbox.moe/n57k6u.png
Did you ever think about this?
https://files.catbox.moe/1fe82j.jpg
Thanks for playing.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:45:42 ago (+3/-1)
Who duh fuk draws a map and leaves off the scale? Every single flat erf'er ever.
If the Earth was flat, and a disk, this would be impossible.
Take the Challenge
https://youtu.be/AQl8h7Aa75s?si=D-hlPr35jSf3-BZF
Does this sound like you?
https://youtu.be/KyD8VIK032o?si=etfwGQb9lobucnWx
Do you hear this much? What's your response?
https://youtu.be/JDy95_eNPzM?si=qMoWx2MoKlvJJQwx
What about the moon?
https://youtu.be/_bHqBy92iGM?si=upwS_9ubiwd4QFBA
And the stars?
https://youtu.be/su-fmoZUkF8?si=yHCKgpomS_k7n6kU
Why wouldn't planes just fly in a straight line?
https://youtu.be/Dd-FAyHdpxI?si=3AfNThmPfuePIRZ-
Show me your model of Flat earth with a scale for distance.
Show me a side of the moon that I don't see right here in Austin Texas, every full moon.
Show me a building that should be over the horizon but that you can still see over a spance of land instead of water.
Show me a picture of Chicago that YOU took from the shores of MI.
Show me a model that explains why the southern tip of south America experiences long days in the winter and short days in the summer.
Tell me why the constellations rotate one way in the northern hemisphere but the opposite way in the southern hemisphere.
Explain how a lunar eclipse works on your dumb assed fuckin' model.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 15:42:57 ago (+0/-2)
You say 'distance','distance','distance'! But you offer no proof of your claimed distance either. You literally just appeal to authority.
The model given to you literally explains eclipses. But you ignore it, just like you ignore the evidence of your own eyes that tells you the horizon is flat, and just like you ignore the evidence your own inner ears provide you that tells you the earth is not moving.
You are the disingenuous nigger you howl and cry about, you hypocrite.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:06:15 ago (+2/-0)
Both of these things cannot be remotely true on a flat earth. This isn't hard.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:14:12 ago (+0/-2)
All the REEEE'ing in the world doesn't mean appealing to authority is any more valid when you haven't provided any proof for the claim.
Prove it. That's a claim. Prove it.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 20:09:22 ago (+1/-0)
Draw a straight line from Perth to Ushaia. Then, draw a straight line from Ottawa to Bejing on your flat earth model. Which line is longer?
On the globe model, the Perth to Usuaia is the shortest line. On the flat earth model, it's the line from Ottawa to Bejing, which is wrong by hundreds of miles.
On a flat earth model it looks like Usuaia is much further away from Perth than Ottawa is from Bejing. Completely wrong and Not even close.
Then, when you look at the actual shortest path plotted between the cities, you'd see that on the GPS model the shortest path for each of the lines, you'd be shown a slightly curved line on the spherical model but a fucking semi-circle line on flat earth models. Again, way the fuck obvious and blatantly wrong.
Are you going to say the GPS isn't actuate? To within hundreds of miles? Despite the fact that literally billions of people use it, every day, without anomaly, accurate to within feet?
How fucking stupid are you willing to show yourself to be?
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:09:24 ago (+0/-0)
Or, are you actually denying that GPS, however you think it works, exists or accurate at all?
Have you ever used a map app? Ever?
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:11:35 ago (+0/-2)
GPS is obtained via terrestrial towers...
You have no idea what you even say.
How do I know this you ask? Ever been in the mountains and valleys at 7000ft?
GPS doesn't work there because THERE ARE NO SATELLITES USED IN GPS.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:52:55 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 20:11:47 ago (+1/-0)*
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:36:56 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:43:30 ago (+3/-3)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:46:50 ago (+3/-0)
Why can't you provide a model of a flat earth with a scale for distance?
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:43:27 ago (+3/-2)
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?
Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?
Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?
Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?
Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?
Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?
Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?
Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?
Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?
If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”
If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?
A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?
Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?
Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives?
What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?
How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.
Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?
If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?
If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?
Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?
How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 14:50:27 ago (+2/-3)
Also, you're a retard that can't grasp how perception works. here's an interactive model debunking your retarded star claims.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model&state=--635-21.6-1345.76565-14.0633681-2355.9583-30-91-21-2
A globe Earther made the model to debunk flat earth. Lol. His reason why he believes he debunked it is because he used heliocentricity numbers for the cosmic bodies which are incorrect. But the interactive example of how perception works when looking at a dome firmament is spot on accurate.
Thanks for playing.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 15:13:24 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 15:23:07 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -1 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 15:45:03 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 16:12:32 ago (+2/-0)*
Thank you for admitting you are physically incapable of answering any questions about your claimed beliefs and also for admitting the Earth is not flat.
K.
They haven’t. Even historical records show that. Kill yourself, retard.
LITERALLY MY LINE. “OY VEY PARALLAX DOESN’T REAL” ~ flat earthers
Your own link disproves your claims, you subhuman retard.
It worked.
So… where’s your model?
So light just magically bends around… what?
Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
You can’t answer the questions.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 21:05:05 ago (+0/-0)
I literally answer every question you faggots have. That's why you hate me so much.
You're just butt hurt because I found the kryptonite. You cannot disagree that people see the ISS. It is objectively retarded to think you could see the ISS if it were an outer space.
You can't win this.
All you have to do is answer this one question and I'll go away forever.
How is it possible to see the ISS?
https://files.catbox.moe/1fe82j.jpg
Why does an airplane at 1 Mile away appear the same size if it were 250 mi away?
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 22:01:15 ago (+0/-0)
Kill self.
Kill self. The question was already answered. You are objectively too stupid (or too paid) to understand the answer. You are a jew and must die.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 08:24:33 ago (+0/-0)
Why does an airplane at 1 mile away look the same exact if it were 250 mi away?
Now don't pretend like you don't want me to kill myself. You have every chance to make that happen now.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 09:50:50 ago (+0/-0)
Kill self. The question was already answered. You are objectively too stupid (or too paid) to understand the answer. You are a jew and must die.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 10:20:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 11:10:01 ago (+0/-0)
Great argument. Kill yourself. You have admitted the Earth isn’t flat.