[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:49:03 ago (+1/-0)
The moon landings could have been faked, and the earth can still be a globe.
Well if you can admit that the moon landing was fake, now you got to justify why you would even believe them when they tell you it's a globe? The same institution would affirm to you that the Holocaust happened. Why do you believe them?
Well, the first reason is that NASA and the government are responsible for the moon landings, while they are not responsible for the earth being a globe. The earth being a globe is something that anybody with critical thinking skills can ascertain as the conclusion that is most likely to be true. I don't believe that flat-earth is logically impossible. It's just exceedingly unlikely given the better reasons for globe-earth.
NASA and the government aren't the ones telling me that the earth is a globe. Thinkers have been doing this since long before NASA existed, going back to ancient times.
I can think critically and ascertain the reasons why NASA and the government would lie about landing on the moon. Last night (or maybe it was the night before), I asked you to provide me with reasons why NASA and the government would lie about the shape of the earth. You bailed from the conversation at that point because you don't have an answer.
Re: the holocaust, if you believe that I believe it happened, well, you just haven't been around here long enough to be making these assumptions, and it comes off as highly stupid.
A big reason they don't want you believing in flat earth because that indicates more of a God created universe... they want you thinking you are on an infinite trajectory in the vastness of never ending space... under the current model it's not even possible to get to another galaxey...just one reason globe is a good way to deny God and communist globalist nwo deep state international bankers etc all want godless weaken who believe their (((education)))
These things are all promoted as true by the (((education system)))
1. 9/11 official story no jew or Isreal connections 2. Isreal is our greatest ally 3. 6 million jews where systematically killed by hitlers orders known as the final solution 4. Isreal is our greatest ally 5. The use liberty was accidently targeted by Isreal
Ok these 5 things the people teaching the globe also teach... the list of absolute bull shit the people that has science teaching you about the globe and big bang and the moon landing etc...
So if they have been proven to be liars about an insane amount of important things... why wouldn't they lie about the globe as well?
For me, that's not a good enough reason. If you say, "Could they be lying about X?", I say, "I need a reason to think they're lying about X."
One reason is that people have believed in globe-earth for millennia, going back to Pythagoras, long, long before the jews had any control over any nation on this planet. Another reason is that the earth being flat doesn't lend any support to the fact that God created the universe. Spheres are more beautiful. If God made the universe, God has demonstrated he likes spheres very much. There's no reason for thinking that God made the earth a hockey puck.
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:56:19 ago (+1/-0)
while they are not responsible for the earth being a globe.
Then who is? You know that I already made multiple posts earlier debunking any claims that the world knew the Earth was round for thousands of years. In fact, Einstein was quoted saying that there is no optical terrestrial experiment anybody could do to prove whether the Earth is spinning or the sky above it is spinning. Every bit of heliocentrism relies on NASA and the worldwide Network that help them pull off the Apollo hoaxes.
Jesus, man. Prove/proof has a technical meaning. It doesn't just mean that people can't argue for that conclusion, it means there is no deductive proof (ala, 2 + 2 = 4). Scientific conclusions are not deductive proofs. You need to spend some time studying the philosophy of science. Ancient thinkers used deductive tools, i.e. mathematics, to predict physical features of the earth, like its circumference, and these turned out to be surprisingly accurate, even with rudimentary calculations. But these applications are not deductive proofs that the earth is round, they rely on certain assumptions being the case.
This is why I tried to tell you about theory comparison. Often, we don't have proofs for things. We have to believe things based on the best cases that can be made for believing them. I'm not arguing that globe-earth is provable. I'm not arguing that flat-earth is provable. I'm arguing that you have better reasons for believing globe-earth.
Then who is?
Physics
Also, you are keeping up with this routine of cherry-picking little snippests from my comments to respond to, simply to advance your beligerent talking points without authentically engaging with anything I'm saying. You're here to preach. To propagandize. To talk on a soap box. It's getting old.
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:06:52 ago (+1/-0)
Prove/proof has a technical meaning.
Enough with the jew talk. Who was the first person to determine the size of the Earth and how did they do it?
If they had to use the moon or the sun to determine this, how did they determine those?
You are such a retard. Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy dum dum. I'm telling you that there is no evidence that the Earth is round. The only evidence you have comes from a jewish theoretical metaphysicist, and NASA.
"jew talk" = anything that makes McNasty seem like a retard
All you ever hear is jew talk.
The first person recognized to have attempted an (respectable) estimate of the size of the earth was Eratosthenes.
If they had to use the moon or the sun to determine this, how did they determine those?
What does "determine those" mean? He didn't need to know the size of the sun. What he needed to assume was that the angles of the photons of light striking the earth were parallel with respect to each other. This means assuming the sun is very far away.
So your contention is going to be the retarded one that the sun is a lot smaller and relatively way closer to earth.
Guess what. You have no good reasons for thinking that. None. You're going to lose the sun as an explanation for so many of the phenomena on earth this way, and you don't realize this. Go on, tell me the physics of the sun and how it heats the earth. Tell me what the sun is and how it produces energy. Tell me how your version of the sun explains earth's climate. The consequences of turning the sun into what you want it to be would be disastrous and sprawling, undermining basically all of the earth sciences. So, please, replace all of the related theories and get back to us.
You're a retard dude. The claim that they knew the Earth was round for thousands of years hangs on the Pythagoras theorem. Or as I called it the Pythagoras delirium. It is circular reasoning at its finest.
(A squared) + (B squared) = (C squared) You must know the value of (A) and (B) before you can solve for (C). How can you solve for (A) or (B) without knowing (C)?
This is a logical fallacy. If you do not understand this and you have no business making such stupid claims. Nobody has any business making such stupid claims but the jewish have you saying some stupid shit.
You don't understand his method. What value for the side of a triangle didn't he know?
He needed a stick of known length (A), the length of the shadow cast (B), and the hypotenuse (C) can be calculated with the Pythagorean theorem.
From there, he can use trig to figure out the angle between (A) and (C).
From there, he can use the Complementary Angle Theorem to figure out the arc on earth's surface between Alexandria and Syrene is the same as the angle cast by the light hitting the stick.
If the angle is around 7 degrees, then Alexandria and Syrene trace an arc on earth's surface of 7 degrees. He then hired surveyors to estimate that distance by walking it. From there, you multiply that distance by (360/7).
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:49:26 ago (+1/-0)
The moon landings could have been faked, and the earth can still be a globe.
Well if you can admit that the moon landing was fake, now you got to justify why you would even believe them when they tell you it's a globe? The same institution would affirm to you that the Holocaust happened. Why do you believe them?
[ - ] Dingo 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 10:09:05 ago (+1/-0)
The real issue is everyone believing this bullshit trump hoax. Then followed directly after the fake crowdstrike "event". If you can get people fight over things that makes little difference in the current situation, then they will continue to give away their agency.
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 4 points 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 21:52:26 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 2 points 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 22:01:31 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:47:40 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:49:03 ago (+1/-0)
Well if you can admit that the moon landing was fake, now you got to justify why you would even believe them when they tell you it's a globe? The same institution would affirm to you that the Holocaust happened. Why do you believe them?
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:54:47 ago (+0/-0)
NASA and the government aren't the ones telling me that the earth is a globe. Thinkers have been doing this since long before NASA existed, going back to ancient times.
I can think critically and ascertain the reasons why NASA and the government would lie about landing on the moon. Last night (or maybe it was the night before), I asked you to provide me with reasons why NASA and the government would lie about the shape of the earth. You bailed from the conversation at that point because you don't have an answer.
Re: the holocaust, if you believe that I believe it happened, well, you just haven't been around here long enough to be making these assumptions, and it comes off as highly stupid.
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 01:19:38 ago (+2/-0)
These things are all promoted as true by the (((education system)))
1. 9/11 official story no jew or Isreal connections
2. Isreal is our greatest ally
3. 6 million jews where systematically killed by hitlers orders known as the final solution
4. Isreal is our greatest ally
5. The use liberty was accidently targeted by Isreal
Ok these 5 things the people teaching the globe also teach... the list of absolute bull shit the people that has science teaching you about the globe and big bang and the moon landing etc...
So if they have been proven to be liars about an insane amount of important things... why wouldn't they lie about the globe as well?
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 01:38:47 ago (+0/-0)
One reason is that people have believed in globe-earth for millennia, going back to Pythagoras, long, long before the jews had any control over any nation on this planet. Another reason is that the earth being flat doesn't lend any support to the fact that God created the universe. Spheres are more beautiful. If God made the universe, God has demonstrated he likes spheres very much. There's no reason for thinking that God made the earth a hockey puck.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:56:19 ago (+1/-0)
Then who is? You know that I already made multiple posts earlier debunking any claims that the world knew the Earth was round for thousands of years. In fact, Einstein was quoted saying that there is no optical terrestrial experiment anybody could do to prove whether the Earth is spinning or the sky above it is spinning. Every bit of heliocentrism relies on NASA and the worldwide Network that help them pull off the Apollo hoaxes.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:04:33 ago (+0/-0)
This is why I tried to tell you about theory comparison. Often, we don't have proofs for things. We have to believe things based on the best cases that can be made for believing them. I'm not arguing that globe-earth is provable. I'm not arguing that flat-earth is provable. I'm arguing that you have better reasons for believing globe-earth.
Physics
Also, you are keeping up with this routine of cherry-picking little snippests from my comments to respond to, simply to advance your beligerent talking points without authentically engaging with anything I'm saying. You're here to preach. To propagandize. To talk on a soap box. It's getting old.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:06:52 ago (+1/-0)
Enough with the jew talk. Who was the first person to determine the size of the Earth and how did they do it?
If they had to use the moon or the sun to determine this, how did they determine those?
You are such a retard. Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy dum dum. I'm telling you that there is no evidence that the Earth is round. The only evidence you have comes from a jewish theoretical metaphysicist, and NASA.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:19:39 ago (+0/-0)
All you ever hear is jew talk.
The first person recognized to have attempted an (respectable) estimate of the size of the earth was Eratosthenes.
What does "determine those" mean? He didn't need to know the size of the sun. What he needed to assume was that the angles of the photons of light striking the earth were parallel with respect to each other. This means assuming the sun is very far away.
So your contention is going to be the retarded one that the sun is a lot smaller and relatively way closer to earth.
Guess what. You have no good reasons for thinking that. None. You're going to lose the sun as an explanation for so many of the phenomena on earth this way, and you don't realize this. Go on, tell me the physics of the sun and how it heats the earth. Tell me what the sun is and how it produces energy. Tell me how your version of the sun explains earth's climate. The consequences of turning the sun into what you want it to be would be disastrous and sprawling, undermining basically all of the earth sciences. So, please, replace all of the related theories and get back to us.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:22:09 ago (+1/-0)
Lol. This is the best you got for a globe argument? Just ad hominems and jew sources?
Get real faggot. Lol.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:27:25 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=669e74046c711
You're a retard dude. The claim that they knew the Earth was round for thousands of years hangs on the Pythagoras theorem. Or as I called it the Pythagoras delirium. It is circular reasoning at its finest.
(A squared) + (B squared) = (C squared) You must know the value of (A) and (B) before you can solve for (C). How can you solve for (A) or (B) without knowing (C)?
This is a logical fallacy. If you do not understand this and you have no business making such stupid claims. Nobody has any business making such stupid claims but the jewish have you saying some stupid shit.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:36:18 ago (+0/-0)*
He needed a stick of known length (A), the length of the shadow cast (B), and the hypotenuse (C) can be calculated with the Pythagorean theorem.
From there, he can use trig to figure out the angle between (A) and (C).
From there, he can use the Complementary Angle Theorem to figure out the arc on earth's surface between Alexandria and Syrene is the same as the angle cast by the light hitting the stick.
If the angle is around 7 degrees, then Alexandria and Syrene trace an arc on earth's surface of 7 degrees. He then hired surveyors to estimate that distance by walking it. From there, you multiply that distance by (360/7).
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 00:50:27 ago (+0/-0)
I'm not arguing about this with with you dude. This ain't a learning experience for me. I am the teacher.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:49:26 ago (+1/-0)
Well if you can admit that the moon landing was fake, now you got to justify why you would even believe them when they tell you it's a globe? The same institution would affirm to you that the Holocaust happened. Why do you believe them?
[ + ] Dingo
[ - ] Dingo 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 10:09:05 ago (+1/-0)