submitted by MaryXmas to Guns11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:21:08 ago (+2/-0) (Guns)
I keep seeing mixed reports. Best I can figure from the news is an s&w m&p ar but that sounds like a pretty bottom of the barrel pick for an assination attempt. Also, I am seeing 400 yards which would be possible for an ar but unlikely, based on the skill and accuracy of the population at my local range, especially if the person was non-military. Then, I see 150 ft. Which would be more realistic with a regular ar.
It was an AR-15 that his dad had purchased. Don't know the brand, the bullet or how much practice the shooter had. Difficult shot but well within any AR-15's capabilities.
If he had aimed center mass he would have hit and Trump would have at least been hospitalized if he didn't die. He wasn't wearing level 4 plates. Maybe the vest would help if he was hit with hollowpoints but solid core ammo would punch through.
It was 150 years and the standard accuracy for an AR is 3 MOA, making 150 yards + or - 4.5". It was gusty and Trump was moving. The shooter had tried out for the high school rifle team 4 years prior but didn't do very well. He was under pressure having been discovered and was being called out by the crowd.
[ - ] Love240 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:33:18 ago (+1/-0)
~400 feet was a measurement I saw on one of the images. An AR could do that no problem with an okay shooter. I haven't seen confirmations on the weapon yet either.
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:46:25 ago (+1/-0)
So 400 ft. With a $600 rifle? And I expect an optic that would not cost more than the gun so a real cheap 12x vortex? Sounds like a rough setup. Yeah, you could do it but if you are taking those types of shots, and doing that type of training, I would expect something slightly better. Something about that setup doesn't make sense.
Because money exists and not everyone has it? That's a very fine setup with easy capability of hitting the target consistently. The situation is the only thing that stopped him. Adrenaline will fuck u up.
For the present of the United States of America? Really? You have literally one shot, at the president of the United States of America and use a cheap rifle. I am going to go out on a limb and say Remington white box. No way was that kid prepared for what he was doing.
Headshot at 150m with a cheap optic is doable. I could hit 400m targets reliably with a worn M-16 using iron sights. Dude should have aimed center mass. Trump's vest can't stop solid core 223.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 4 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 08:30:32 ago (+4/-0)
Amazing shot given the circumstances.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 15:46:36 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:57:52 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 15:47:59 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 15:49:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Thyhorrorcosmic103
[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 2 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:26:20 ago (+2/-0)
You can google earth it and measure yourself
just search for "AGR International Inc., Whitestown Road, Meridian, PA"
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 15:48:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 9 monthsSep 19, 2024 00:59:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 11:16:34 ago (+1/-0)
This guy would have thrown a knife at Trump if that's what he had available to him.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:33:18 ago (+1/-0)
An AR could do that no problem with an okay shooter.
I haven't seen confirmations on the weapon yet either.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/418hgd4s.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/ilt7kd.jpg
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 06:46:25 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 07:19:37 ago (+2/-0)
And yeah, I'd definitely use a better rifle and caliber for that distance and required accuracy.
[ + ] ButtToucha9000
[ - ] ButtToucha9000 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 07:42:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 07:48:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NeedleStack
[ - ] NeedleStack 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 09:20:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 15:52:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NeedleStack
[ - ] NeedleStack 1 point 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 16:06:07 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/07/15/trump-shooter-rejected-school-rifle-club-dangerous-shot/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-assassination-suspect-gun-record-club-b2579943.html
https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/would-be-trump-assassin-tried-to-join-high-school-shooting-club-was-rejected-for-being-comically-bad-shot/
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 15:51:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 11:19:32 ago (+0/-0)
They are super accurate.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 15, 2024 16:33:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 9 monthsSep 19, 2024 01:01:40 ago (+0/-0)