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Why the chevron defense ruling is actually a bad thing

submitted by SmallGuyFromBrooklyn to Rants 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 13:26:53 ago (+5/-2)     (Rants)

A lot of people are cheering the chevron defense as the end of the administrative state. 100% guarantee the defense was shot down so everything could be merged into a larger fed gov. If anything, the administrative deep state is going to get even more oppressive and tyrannical. Look at guns, when the feds realized they could just write new laws, they eradicated gun rights at the state level. The same shit will happen with the chevron defense. The defense also doesnt delete the supra judicial organizations, which is what's really needed.


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[ - ] Nosferatjew 9 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 14:06:07 ago (+9/-0)

I don't think you've figured it out.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 3 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 14:35:52 ago (+3/-0)*

Well, Chevron is a good thing because it restricts Federal Agency overreach, namely the FCC, EPA, and ATF in recent years.
The problem is that it is insufficient to tackle the problem of unelected social engineering commonly attributed to 'deep state' manipulations.
Since the 1960's activist courts have driven the entirety of societal change in the US and while Chevron removes power from the regulatory agencies it then vests it securely back into the hands of those same courts.
It is good the ruling was overturned but it will not produce the effect republican media seems to believe.
Until the semitic court system is addressed - expect a perfect and unbroken continuation of our decay.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 13:38:22 ago (+1/-0)

Where was gun rights eradicated at the state level? On the contrary, gun restrictions have been eradicated on the state level.

26 states have constitution carry and there is no more "may issue" states for permit.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 13:50:11 ago (+0/-0)

Illinois, etc. ban specific types of guns and individual weapons by law and expand this continuously.

[ - ] SmallGuyFromBrooklyn [op] -1 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 13:49:56 ago (+0/-1)

NY, NJ, CA, IL all have hyper restrictive gun rights. The process is so complicated it's not even worth it to bother. However, 4473 was shoved down everyone's throats without asking, so the idea states can legally make their own laws is retarded. The feds will keep making new laws to override the states

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 14:33:19 ago (+2/-0)

That's not true. The Bruen decision was 2022. That overly complicated process was before the bruen decision that made it unconstitutional to impose "shall issue" restrictions like the states that you named used to have. They will all be challenged out of existence the way New Yorks laws were.

And no, states making their own laws is not retarded. The federal government making laws that might work for NYC but have no chance in hell of working in any city in Kansas is what's retarded.

What's your issue with form 4473? I mean, I get that background checks are fuckin' dumb, but is there another issue, other than that?

I disagree with your assumption that the Feds are going to impose further restrictions. The 6-3 court is pro-2A and has been nullifying bad executive rulings, through individual rulings (ie the bump stock and pistol brace rulings) and now the Chevron ruling and has crippled the ability for congress to pass their own laws where it comes to restricting guns in common use.

[ - ] LawFag 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 19:31:03 ago (+0/-0)

First off, it's called "Chevron Deference." Second, you're retarded.

[ - ] BoozyB 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 19:30:00 ago (+0/-0)

It's called the Chevron Deference.
The doctrine says that when a statute is ambiguous, courts should defer to the reasonable interpretation of the agency responsible for implementing the statute because they are the "experts".
It was bad law for 40 years, ruining thousands of businesses, farms and productive citizens, and I'm glad it's on its way out no matter how long it takes.