Let's imagine M&Ms can breed and pass on their genes. Let's imagine there are people who like to eat M&Ms that look red so they don't pass on their red genes. Meanwhile, they don't like to eat M&Ms that look green so they do get to pass on their green genes.
What do you think the population of M&Ms will look like after 100 generations?
I bet you can't just answer the question. I bet you try to answer a question that was never even asked.
So what if we aren't talking about people? Maybe we are talking about birds? And what if we aren't talking about M&Ms. Maybe we are talking about caterpillers? And what if we aren't talking about color? Maybe we are talking about caterpillers with hair?
Just try it. Try answering the question. What happens to a population of caterpillars that look unappetizing 100 generations later vs the delicious looking caterpillers.
I bet you can't answer the question. I bet you dodge the question... again.
M&Ms was fine because people do just mindlessly eat them, without any planning on population. Just like birds or caterpillars. Who wouldn't agree that e.g. dogs, cats, farm animals, plants we grow, didn't naturally evolve that way? Of course we've consciously worked to select those that work best, from the wild ones we started with hundreds/thousands of years ago. Even this doesn't refute evolution, it's just us taking the role of the selection pressure. Human selection vs natural selection. Technically the farm animals, plants might actually be classified as our phenotype, the extended reach of our own genes in shaping matter around them. /ramble
The cognition process isn't random. It has an intelligent design.
There isn't any plan among bird or caterpillers to change in any different way. It's not "design", even if there is intelligence involved, albeit bird and caterpiller levels of intelligence.
You are confusing "design" with "emergence".
We can say this with certainty because the same rules apply to life forms without intelligence, for instance, bacteria.
How does evolution favor adopting camouflage? You literally become less visible to your mates.
And that doesn't even explain the transformation. Did they slowly make micro changes CHAOTICALLY towards a exact replica of a feather and all other catepillars dumped mating will all others just for that micro change? That still hadn't looked anything like a feather yet? Or did one catepillar just pop out exactly like a feather? If so what other things are they just popping out as?
Yeah, you are doing the thing I said you would do. Answer the question.
If you don't have the IQ or mental discipline to answer even a simple question, how can you believe yourself intelligent enough to understand evolution? See: Dunning-Kruger effect
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 10 monthsJun 30, 2024 14:38:28 ago (+1/-0)*
Time for your big IQ to shine because here comes an answer to your question in earnest!
What do you think the population of M&Ms will look like after 100 generations?
Your case has only two M&Ms already in existence. We'll call them the one that already looks exactly like a feather (green), and the one that looks like a worm (red). So the green one takes over.
Question for you. How did the green one come in to existence?
Really all you're doing is explaining why the catepillar already as a feather would remain dominate. But not how the catepillar would come in existence in the first place.
Why couldn't you have just answered the question simply? Try it again. This time, Just answer the question as simply as possible, without all the nonsense that doesn't answer the question. I don't think you can do it. You don't have the self awareness to do it.
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Let's imagine there are people who like to eat M&Ms that look red so they don't pass on their red genes.
Meanwhile, they don't like to eat M&Ms that look green so they do get to pass on their green genes.
What do you think the population of M&Ms will look like after 100 generations?
I bet you can't just answer the question.
I bet you try to answer a question that was never even asked.
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And what if we aren't talking about M&Ms. Maybe we are talking about caterpillers?
And what if we aren't talking about color? Maybe we are talking about caterpillers with hair?
Just try it.
Try answering the question.
What happens to a population of caterpillars that look unappetizing 100 generations later vs the delicious looking caterpillers.
I bet you can't answer the question.
I bet you dodge the question... again.
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It's not "design", even if there is intelligence involved, albeit bird and caterpiller levels of intelligence.
You are confusing "design" with "emergence".
We can say this with certainty because the same rules apply to life forms without intelligence, for instance, bacteria.
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It's still not design.
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How does evolution favor adopting camouflage? You literally become less visible to your mates.
And that doesn't even explain the transformation. Did they slowly make micro changes CHAOTICALLY towards a exact replica of a feather and all other catepillars dumped mating will all others just for that micro change? That still hadn't looked anything like a feather yet? Or did one catepillar just pop out exactly like a feather? If so what other things are they just popping out as?
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[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 10 monthsJun 30, 2024 14:28:23 ago (+0/-0)*
Answer the question.
If you don't have the IQ or mental discipline to answer even a simple question, how can you believe yourself intelligent enough to understand evolution?
See: Dunning-Kruger effect
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[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 10 monthsJun 30, 2024 14:38:28 ago (+1/-0)*
Your case has only two M&Ms already in existence. We'll call them the one that already looks exactly like a feather (green), and the one that looks like a worm (red). So the green one takes over.
Question for you. How did the green one come in to existence?
Really all you're doing is explaining why the catepillar already as a feather would remain dominate. But not how the catepillar would come in existence in the first place.
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Try it again. This time, Just answer the question as simply as possible, without all the nonsense that doesn't answer the question.
I don't think you can do it. You don't have the self awareness to do it.
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[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 10 monthsJun 30, 2024 15:46:34 ago (+1/-0)
I answered your question literally simply and this your response? Beep boop the fuck outta here.
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