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The English Language Makes Perfect Sense

submitted by Wahaha to funny 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 05:30:23 ago (+39/-0)     (files.catbox.moe)

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[ - ] CoronaHoax 6 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:08:06 ago (+6/-0)

It takes like years longer than needed for kids to learn English over this type of bs.

[ - ] autotic 13 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:25:08 ago (+13/-0)

That's fine. It's a first-pass filter on retards and foreigners trying to blend in.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 9 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 08:04:19 ago (+9/-0)

English is my wife's second language. She's been here almost twenty years and she still fucks it up. Part of the reason is that nobody corrects ESL speakers grammar here. We think it's funny or cute. I don't think it's like that in non English speaking countries. If someone is always telling you that you sound stupid you tend to want to change that in a hurry.

[ - ] Ragnar 6 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:26:58 ago (+6/-0)

Bwahahaha you married a bug! What a sick retard you are.
As for people in our country not correcting bugs and shits foreigners but other countries are different, you are wrong. No one corrects a foreigner’s grammar or pronunciation anywhere unless it’s totally illegible.
In Japan, they even fake compliment you on your shitty Japanese.
In pan Arabia, they nod and smile at Whites speaking atrocious words, while they rightfully ignore pajeets and pakis butchering Arabic like they do English.
In France, they are just rude to you instead of correcting you.

In fact, a real Englishman is compelled to correct others’ English and indeed does so. Even here the real native speakers do occasionally.

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 3 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:55:17 ago (+3/-0)

The Chinese have a harder filter. To be literate you need to know over three thousand different characters that all have various meanings depending on context and intonation. The downside is that their complicated language also makes other things complicated.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:28:35 ago (+1/-1)

Yes yes go weeb in the corner

[ - ] InYourFaceNancyGrace 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 11:25:29 ago (+0/-0)

various meanings depending on context and intonation

People always say this about other languages like English is basically Lojban where words mean the same thing regardless of context and tone. As if we don't have sarcasm and homonyms.

"Why are you lying to me?"

"Why are you lying down?"

Look at that! Same word, same combination of characters (which, people tend to read in blcoks which is why you can swap letetrs and still convey the same maening, so it's effectively analogous to being the same character in Chinese), but an entirely different meaning. There are of course hundreds of other examples. Then tone - harder to convey in text, but I think this illustrates it well:

"Huh, that's fucked up."

"I'm gonna fuck you up."

And of course there is the phenomenon of double entendre. Like if a jew comes out of a tunnel all covered in dust, you would call him "a dirty jew" and be literally accurate as well as figuratively accurate.

In short, when people like you make statements like that it denigrates the English language by implying (or outright suggesting) that the language doesn't have nuance.

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:34:06 ago (+2/-0)

What you describe obviously exists in all languages.

In Chinese and other languages that make use of Kanji there's just another level to that.
In English you can say something is sick and mean it's either really good or really bad, but with a language that uses Kanji you not only have the word and its different meanings, you also have the Kanji which can have itself different meanings.

Let's take the female name "Yuuki" for example. You can write it 愛喜 (愛: Love, 喜: Rejoice). But you can also write it 結己 (結: Marriage, 己: Oneself). There's also over 60 other different ways to write this name. Or any name, really.

So now to be literate you not only have to find the Kanji that is pronounced the way you want, but also that means what you want. Kinda like "their" and "they're" in English, just for basically every word.

Let's take a closer look at for example (愛: Love). In Japanese it can be pronounced Ai (love), Itoshii (loved one/Dear), Kanashii (sad), Mederu (to admire), Oshimu (to regret) and Mana (beloved). But if you want to actually write for example Kanashii (sad) you have to use a different Kanji (悲: Grieve). Using (愛: Love) to write Kanashii is wrong. Despite both the pronunciation and meaning being correct.

What you can do is use this Kanji to write 愛しい (Utsukushii: Beautiful). Notice how none of the meanings of (愛: Love) actually are "Utsukushii" or have the meaning of beautiful. (Though, usually you'd write 美しい to mean Utsukushii.)


And that is before we even get into things like nuance and how for example Japanese has a bunch of politeness levels that are grammatically distinct from each other. Imagine the way you conjugate a verb being the difference between respecting and disrespecting someone.


I'm not saying English has no nuance, I'm saying that to be literate in a languages that uses Kanji takes a lot more mental headspace than being literate in English.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 14:17:35 ago (+0/-0)

Yuuki can also mean snow or courage. Unless that's spelled with one 'u'.

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 15:54:30 ago (+0/-0)

If you go by Japanese characters it's spelled without 'u'. Snow is ゆき (yu-ki). The kanji is 雪. Can also be read as セツ (Se-tsu). For example, Snowflake is 雪片 (せっぺん, Se-p-pe-n). And っ is special in that it doubles as whatever the next character is.

Courage is 勇気 (ゆうき, Yu-u-ki). It's made up of (勇: Courage) which can be pronounced either Isamu or Yuu and (気: Spirit) which can be pronounced either Ki or Ke. In Chinese Martial arts it's also sometimes called Qi or Chi.


Yuuki is also 有機 (organic), 誘起 (evocation), 有期 (definite) and 幽鬼 (departed soul).

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 23:00:19 ago (+0/-0)

Fuck me their language is complicated.

[ - ] InYourFaceNancyGrace 0 points 11 monthsJun 28, 2024 08:37:51 ago (+0/-0)

Let's take the female name "Yuuki" for example. You can write it 愛喜 (愛: Love, 喜: Rejoice). But you can also write it 結己 (結: Marriage, 己: Oneself). There's also over 60 other different ways to write this name. Or any name, really.

Sophi, Sophia, Sophy, Sophie, Sophee... sounds obnoxious really. Like people naming their kids "Jaxxen." But nice to know that other languages have the similar annoying features.

In Japanese it can be pronounced Ai (love), Itoshii (loved one/Dear), Kanashii (sad), Mederu (to admire), Oshimu (to regret) and Mana (beloved)

You're not really making your case. All you're doing is showing me synonyms and/or homonyms (I guess in your name example) which, again, exist in English. Which is of course why you can translate them... and yea, English doesn't wrap it in as nice a package as say the ancient Greeks with philia (affectionate love), eros (physical love), storge (familial love), agape (unconditional), mania, ludus, etc... but all of those things can be translated. We just use adjectives.

And that is before we even get into things like nuance and how for example Japanese has a bunch of politeness levels that are grammatically distinct from each other

Yea the Romance and Germanic languages do this too; English is a little more streamlined, but we still don't talk the same way in a sportsball locker room that we would speak at an executive board meeting or with a high-ranking politician. The way I write here is far from the way I would structure my writing in a professional report. And now that I think about it further... it's actually why we have professional writing and literary courses at/above the collegiate level. Advertisements have different grammatical rules from academic publications. And I assume you're familiar with legalese?

I'd say that grammatical nuance is equally or even more difficult in English because there is a lot that can only be learned through practice and immersion. But then, I can only imagine Japanese/Mandarain/Cantonese etc. have similar regional dialects and nuances... because all languages seem to. Again, save for Lojban because exactly five people speak that, and they're all in the same university lab group.


I'm not saying English has no nuance, I'm saying that to be literate in a languages that uses Kanji takes a lot more mental headspace than being literate in English.

Yea I'm just not sure that's correct (but I would think it's very difficult to measure). That's why ESL people can appear awkward even after years in the country. We're generally a more polite society (on the surface anyway, thanks Brits), so we give them a pass generally, but all of the things you describe to distinguish the Eastern language from the Western are present in both, in some cases executed much more similarly than you claim (at least by the examples you've given).

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 28, 2024 11:50:18 ago (+0/-0)

Sophi and Sophia are different names. In Japanese it's the same exact name, pronounced exactly the same, just written differently and thus with a different meaning attached to it.

A synonym is a different word that means the same and a homonym is the same word that means something different. That's not what my example was. A Kanji is not a word. You need to think of a Kanji as a letter. Imagine the letter "T" having all kinds of different meanings. Let's take (美: Beautiful). That's just a letter. To write the word beautiful you have to write "美しい". But you could also use a different letter to write the same word: "愛しい".


If you can speak English but are illiterate you have to learn a few dozen letters that you use to make up all the words. If you can speak Japanese but are illiterate you have to learn between three and twelve thousand letters that all have a whole bunch of meanings.

[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:46:53 ago (+0/-0)

"The downside is that their complicated language also makes other things complicated."

Like giving quick concise orders in combat. The structure of the chinese language does not lend itself well to this.

[ - ] Ragnar 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:19:51 ago (+2/-0)

It’s not though. If a shit is born here, he speaks perfectly and no accent

[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:05:16 ago (+1/-0)

Yes but it'd kind of be nice if kids were reading books easily, on average at 4 and 5 instead of 7 and 8. It would greatly enhance their development mentally, etc.

[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:56:02 ago (+1/-0)*

"The hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world."

Traditional stay-at-home mothers who prioritize their children's education is the main driver in this.

My mother had me reading, at home, by 4. Along with elementary math. When I started school at 6, they had to put me 2 years ahead.

Waiting for the state to start teaching your kids the basics at 6 (that you could easily do yourself) is what puts them behind.

(BTW, one of my proudest achievements was being able to earn a good enough living that my wife could stay home. And she home-schooled all of the kids. And gave after-shool tutoring for other family's kids.)

[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 17:54:56 ago (+0/-0)

Well your greatest achievement was having a wife that even would or could

[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:20:32 ago (+1/-0)

I said proudest. But you are correct. I tell her every day that I love her

And I tell any of you poor sods that will listen that I apologize for taking one of the last good ones.

[ - ] Jinglebanger 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 14:27:05 ago (+0/-0)

Are you saying you couldn't read fluently until you were fucking 8?

[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 17:50:07 ago (+0/-0)

Well I mean better than you at what 30+? You missed the word average.

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:23:54 ago (+0/-0)

why is it that every time some faggot ass foreigner goes to learn english they always scorn every nuance, yet when studying the actual nonsense of the japanese language or chinese or others, it's phrased as some magical, amazing cultural enlightenment that would do anyone good to grace themselves should they become blessed enough to learn their gay, negligible history.

It's a first-pass filter on retards and foreigners trying to blend in.

Yeah, where is our "learn our culture" pass? i guess this means white people have culture

fuck off, weeaboos.

[ - ] fritz_maurentod 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:22:41 ago (+2/-0)

English is still the easiest European language to learn.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:18:56 ago (+0/-0)

Why do kids have to learn it if they grow with it?

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 14:20:08 ago (+0/-0)

Today, you could make the argument that teaching kids proper English will (hopefully) cause all non-nigger kids to not ook and eek and ooga booga like niggers.

[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:43:21 ago (+0/-0)

Done purposefully in order to confuse the untermenschen. "You must be at least this tall to ride this ride."

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:23:14 ago (+0/-0)

why is it that every time some faggot ass foreigner goes to learn english they always scorn every nuance, yet when studying the actual nonsense of the japanese language or chinese or others, it's phrased as some magical, amazing cultural enlightenment that would do anyone good to grace themselves should they become blessed enough to learn their gay, negligible history.

instead they could admit we have a vibrant culture instead of gaslighting that we have none

fuck off, weeaboos.

[ - ] UncleDoug 3 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 06:26:15 ago (+3/-0)

It makes more sense if you understand etymology and history.
.
Also stop being such an arab Wahaha

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 06:48:02 ago (+1/-0)

Is arab better or worse than niggerfaggot?

[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:30:27 ago (+1/-0)

Oh shit, you are an arab? Bahaha gtfo

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 11:18:59 ago (+0/-0)

No. I'm not a nigger or faggot, either. I already said on Voat where I'm from and don't feel like repeating myself right now.

[ - ] Ragnar -1 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 23:08:28 ago (+0/-1)

Even worse, a paki?
How’s your 9 year old cousin wife?

[ - ] Wahaha [op] -1 points 11 monthsJun 28, 2024 04:20:08 ago (+0/-1)

Nope. I'll give you a hint. I live in a city full of white people and white children and the last time I saw a nigger in real life was five years ago.

[ - ] Ragnar -1 points 11 monthsJun 28, 2024 15:10:46 ago (+0/-1)

Don’t care where you live. You ain’t White go back

[ - ] Wahaha [op] -1 points 11 monthsJun 29, 2024 06:17:02 ago (+0/-1)

Already live in the country of my forefathers. My family has lived here for longer than the USA exists.

[ - ] Ragnar -1 points 11 monthsJun 29, 2024 08:48:02 ago (+0/-1)

Sure abdul

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:25:48 ago (+1/-0)

why is it that every time some faggot ass foreigner goes to learn english they always scorn every nuance, yet when studying the actual nonsense of the japanese language or chinese or others, it's phrased as some magical, amazing cultural enlightenment that would do anyone good to grace themselves should they become blessed enough to learn their gay, negligible history.

instead they could admit we have a vibrant culture instead of gaslighting that we have none

fuck off, weeaboos.

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 11 monthsJun 28, 2024 04:21:03 ago (+0/-0)

yet when studying the actual nonsense of the japanese language or chinese or others, it's phrased as some magical

I've seen enough tik tok videos to know some Chinese words have several completely different meanings simply based on inflection.

yi si

xiang

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason -3 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 08:08:05 ago (+1/-4)

understand etymology and history

a) He-brew his-story to trick jew/you to fall for it.

b) Understanding etymology implies standing under ety-MOLOG-y...

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 11:55:49 ago (+2/-0)

To be fair other languages have their idiosyncrasies. Ever try to describe a number of objects in Japanese?

[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:26:07 ago (+0/-0)

Ever try to describe a number of objects in Japanese

I was saying this exact thing, it is beyond annoying.

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:38:27 ago (+0/-0)

You mean like a pack of wolves, a pride of lions, a flock of birds, a school of fish, a hive of bees or a herd of sheep? All languages are like that, but English is the only language everyone on here hopefully understands.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 05:53:24 ago (+2/-0)

If you don't like it, leave.

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:25:56 ago (+0/-0)

why is it that every time some faggot ass foreigner goes to learn english they always scorn every nuance, yet when studying the actual nonsense of the japanese language or chinese or others, it's phrased as some magical, amazing cultural enlightenment that would do anyone good to grace themselves should they become blessed enough to learn their gay, negligible history.

instead they could admit we have a vibrant culture instead of gaslighting that we have none

fuck off, weeaboos.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:37:10 ago (+0/-0)*

All the various Chinese and Chinese adjacent languages Mandarin, Cantonese, Mien, Hmong, etc, are some of the most impossible languages for a non-native to learn. English, and frankly all other Euro languages, are a cake walk in comparison.

Edit: Japanese is a little more on par with Euro languages, because it's not tonal like Chink dialects often are. I equate it to Spanish, in that it is a pheonetical language, with only one pronunciation per "letter" (or whatever).

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:50:49 ago (+0/-0)

wow i'm going to go learn japanese right the fuck now

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 19:09:59 ago (+0/-0)

It seems to be the easiest of all the Asian languages to learn. Cantonese, on the other hand, being one of the most difficult.

[ - ] Wahaha [op] -2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 05:55:37 ago (+0/-2)

I don't even live in an English speaking country.

[ - ] Sector2 6 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 06:42:17 ago (+7/-1)

Neither do the Brits and Aussies.

[ - ] Ragnar 5 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:32:12 ago (+5/-0)

Or Canadians

[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:25:21 ago (+2/-0)

Or Americans

[ - ] Nosferatjew 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 05:57:20 ago (+2/-0)

Are you the chink in the video?

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 05:59:56 ago (+1/-1)

Why would I post a video of myself?

[ - ] x0x7 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:04:12 ago (+2/-0)

Because no one would be able to distinguish you from a billion other Asians anyway?

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:59:38 ago (+2/-0)

The billion other Asians would have that ability. I'm not Asian but it's not hard to tell Asians apart.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:33:36 ago (+1/-1)

No, they all look the same. Zero difference.
Just like all you kebabs look the same like Aladdin but uglier

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 06:04:33 ago (+0/-0)

Is that a no?

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 06:47:01 ago (+1/-0)

Yes, I don't upload videos of myself to the Internet.

[ - ] Steelerfish 2 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 08:23:56 ago (+2/-0)

That’s not what MaroonSaint GreenSaint said…..

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 11:20:05 ago (+0/-0)

What did she say?

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:06:17 ago (+0/-0)

Then I wasn't talking to you.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:31:18 ago (+0/-0)

You don’t belong in France

[ - ] VitaminSieg 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:15:30 ago (+1/-0)

'Dutch' used to refer to Germanic people as a whole and not specifically people from the Netherlands. So this is funnier than he thinks.

[ - ] fritz_maurentod 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:27:27 ago (+1/-0)

Deutsch is the German word for German to this day. Deutsch, Dutch and Teuton have the same root and sound pretty similar in German.

[ - ] Wahaha [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 11:38:36 ago (+0/-0)

Ironically, in German it's just..

Niederland, Niederländer
Holland, Holländer
England, Engländer
Amerika, Amerikaner

[ - ] fritz_maurentod 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:19:00 ago (+0/-0)

Israel, Jude

[ - ] hylo 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 08:17:15 ago (+1/-0)

Sometimes I think some words in English are pronounced the way they are because of mass illiteracy. You just need a popular idiot to pronounce something one way and the rest will follow like lemmings.

Kind of explains a lot about American/English society nowadays.

Take bass for example. Am I talking about the fish or the guitar? You would have to hear me say it to know. Then why not spell it differently to clarify? Same reason why trannies exist. No one bothers correcting fools. It's a western way of thinking.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 14:32:58 ago (+0/-0)

Shrimp> skrimp (thanks but no thanks niggers)

[ - ] TakeRedPillDaily 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:28:31 ago (+1/-0)

Nothing to back it up, but my theory is that English and its evolution was heavily influenced by music. If something didn't sound right to the ear it wasn't used in songs or was changed so that it did. It's probably why a lot of words rhyme as well. Also why almost all non-whites listen to our music, and their music sounds like a cat in a blender.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 17:53:19 ago (+0/-0)

Hmm neat point

[ - ] o0shad0o 1 point 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 07:13:05 ago (+1/-0)

English is a hodge-podge that's adopted whole swathes of other languages, and that includes references to other countries. Sometimes a term comes from a source that disappeared over the centuries and is hard to track down. e.g. Germany.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 11:56:46 ago (+0/-0)

English used to be called Anglish (mix of Anglo-Saxon dialects) around 100AD and was more similar to German then - until it developed into a more worldly language that absorbed many ideas and words of cultures it came across.

Also, English has nothing to do with England, as the people of England were either killed off or subjugated by the Germanic English speakers.

[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 12:24:20 ago (+0/-0)

Ok now count stuff in Japanese, it's even worse than English

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 14:30:40 ago (+0/-0)

Apparently the number 4 has two different spellings and pronunciations.

[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 15:03:52 ago (+0/-0)

No dude, when counting small objects you use a different number and suffix, medium objects, different number and suffix, large, liquid, solid square, blob, amorphous, people, foods, etc all different numbers and suffix.

Also japs bitching about not being able to pronounce shit is the biggest hypocrite shit since they use literal hieroglyphics for a written language.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:08:07 ago (+0/-0)

English was chosen for maximum deception, because rules are rules.
French has maximum deception effect, but it was too beautiful language.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 10:34:39 ago (+0/-0)

French
beautiful
Hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha

[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself -1 points 11 monthsJun 27, 2024 18:23:06 ago (+0/-1)

why is it that every time some faggot ass foreigner goes to learn english they always scorn every nuance, yet when studying the actual nonsense of the japanese language or chinese or others, it's phrased as some magical, amazing cultural enlightenment that would do anyone good to grace themselves should they become blessed enough to learn their gay, negligible history.

instead they could admit we have a vibrant culture instead of gaslighting that we have none

fuck off, weeaboos.