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Taxing the Sun

submitted by UncleDoug to ClimateChangeSkeptic 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 05:37:01 ago (+19/-0)     (pomf2.lain.la)

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Listen up piglets.

Sun tax: When it will hit, what it will cost and why solar export tariffs remain controversial

Australian energy retailers will now introduce a tax for Solar grid export or a Solar Tariff. All those families that decided to outlay solar panels to reduce utility costs will now pay an erroneous tax on green energy just because. It has never been about the environment, it never will.

The federal energy minister is silent on the matter.

Now 2024 has arrived, Ausgrid confirms it will introduce the 1.2c/kWh export charge in July – but only as an “opt-in” exercise – as in, customers will have to request to be involved, via their retailer. It will become mandatory a year later, in July 2025.

Starting from July this year, solar panel owners will face a penalty of 1.2¢ per kilowatt-hour for exporting electricity to the grid between 10 am and 3 pm. Conversely, they will be rewarded 2.3¢ per kilowatt-hour for exports between 4 pm and 9 pm.

Australia's new “Sun Tax” is a fresh rule that charges people with solar panels when they send extra electricity to the grid.


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[ - ] Hobama 0 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 13:39:26 ago (+0/-0)

Anyone have details on how to make my panels independent from the grid with a switch? Currently when the power goes out so do my panels.

[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 0 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 13:43:52 ago (+0/-0)

Correct. You need a sufficiently sized battery bank and an inverter/battery controller that is able to 'island' (or called 'islanding').

This is expensive. My house mostly runs on solar but the cost of going fully off grid would cost ~4X more than what I've already invested.

If I'm expecting to run my house w/o the grid for 1 week or less per year, it's far cheaper to just run a propane generator for the week.

[ - ] 2plus2equals5 1 point 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 13:26:03 ago (+1/-0)

Don't kid yourself, it was always about control.

[ - ] NeverHappened 2 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 10:11:33 ago (+2/-0)

They already have fuckery similar to this in some US states.

[ - ] Clubberlang -1 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 08:35:58 ago (+0/-1)*

Doesn't look yiddish enough.

Disconnect your panels from the grid and invest in some batteries.

Only use the grid when you drain your batteries or when the sun isn't around to charge the batteries.

But kangajews are gud goy rule followers and will think this idea is baaaaaaaahd.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 08:26:33 ago (+2/-0)

I am waiting for air tax and why would I send power "to the grid"? I am storing that shit in batteries, not for the power company to resell at higher prices.

[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 08:44:57 ago (+1/-0)

Australians are getting a rebate to send energy back to the utility supplier at cents in the dollar, because most cant afford another $20K for batteries on top of the $10-15K they already forked out for solar panels to reduce energy consumption.

It will now be taxed, just because it is profitable to do so, more profitable than slugging the consumer as it currently stands.

We need to eat the rich.

[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 0 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 13:49:38 ago (+0/-0)

I am storing that shit in batteries,

Really? Are you actively doing this? If so, what system are you using?

I'd like to do that, but it's just so stupid expensive. Haven't been able to justify that purchase.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 1 point 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 14:13:01 ago (+1/-0)

I probably should have I WOULD BE storing that. I don't have a solar power system. I cannot see any scenario that the power company would not charge me extra on some back end fees to offset any chance I get a $1 or $2 off the monthly bill. In fact, I can even see some law down the road where they just steal any power I generate and are forbidden to use it because that isn't "fair".

[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 0 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 16:49:16 ago (+0/-0)

OK. Fair. But, I must say "no you wouldn't." :)

I do have a large residential solar system and (in Texas) it's a good deal. I buy/sell power at the same rate. So, I can produce during the day and buy it back 1-1 at night. In the spring I typically run a negative bill which just results in a credit I can use in the summer months.

There are basic transmission fees and taxes (~20% of the base electric cost ... charged on incoming, not outgoing electricity flows), but those fees are minor in comparison to the cost of a battery system.

For me, a battery system would be a significant net negative financial investment. (Even on an 'ideal' battery life ... a battery system with the required islanding inverter and auto-switch would still cost 15X more than paying these transmission fees and taxes over the next 10+ years.)

I'm still looking into a battery for the next grid down event ... but that's a different motivation, not financial...

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 10 monthsJun 10, 2024 05:50:41 ago (+0/-0)

I heard the nigs in new caledonia are killing whites. Cheap prooerties out there because you could get killed by nigs