submitted by TheBigGuyFromQueens to Trump 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 06:09:13 ago (+10/-0) (www.meadvilletribune.com)
https://www.meadvilletribune.com/news/mercer-county-man-gets-two-years-in-federal-prison-for-threatening-fbi-over-trump-raid/article_9dc881d2-63ab-11ee-b89d-632e29cac220.html
[ + ] clymer
[ - ] clymer 8 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 07:56:01 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] BeefJerky
[ - ] BeefJerky 0 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 12:49:32 ago (+0/-0)*
This man was sentenced for unrelated stuff becuase he oddly PLEADED GUILTY to :
both BOGUS, trvivial to win one day in appeal, or years later in supreme court
WEB POSTS IN OPEN FORUM do not count as cross-state 'telco era FCC threats'
FED ELECTED POLITICIANS and JUDGES, and probably FBI have magic free speech restrictions, but even Kathy Griffith got off scot free.
If he named EVERY member of a class, and not a subset of the class, such as "EVERY FED FUCKER" , then SCOTUS protects him. I think he was selective though.
If he made time period over 365 days, by omitting time or saying "eventually one day" he also gets off on very well defined SCOTUS rulings.... but they are using novel law on federal officials being more special than private citizens.
The US Supreme court ruled MANY MANY TIMES that to be illegal speech and a call to imminent violence or crime, an utterance needs TWO components :
1 > A SPECIFIC TARGET OR TARGETS not including a complete class of targets.
2 > AN IMMINENT TIME PERIOD LESS THAN 365 days from now.
BOTH criteria for illegal speech (plea for imminent lawless action) that any first year law student is taught:
Famous SCOTUS Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action
SCOTUS Hess v. Indiana, 414 U.S. 105 (1973) [must be less than 12 months] :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hess_v._Indiana
So you can legally intra-state and across state borders type these words :
"All Jews should be shoved into ovens one day"
It lacks a subset, and lacks a date under 365 days from now.
But If you type :
"We should kill all the niggers next monday"
That too is legal speech because it lacks a subset of a class of targets, though does include imminent time.
Regarding the President, fed politicians, fed judges, that is one of 22 limits to free speech, but thousands of Democrats made calls for it in 2016, and ZERO were prosecuted claiming that the exemption for free speech would override the law protecting certain federal officials because of well re-stated SCOTUS rulings of not only Famous SCOTUS Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), and SCOTUS Hess v. Indiana, 414 U.S. 105 (1973). For example, the (((public legal experts))) claimed that the thousands of Democrats threatening to kill the president, omitted a specific time, or were "mere puffery".
If you want a list of the 12 to 22 limits on free speech in USA, they are online , most in a wikipedia entry, and the rest in FCC interstate oriented laws on telephony threats, but SCOTUS allows passive internet postings not PERSONALLY constructed to be delivered to a threatened person, but mere public forum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States
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As for Fed Post humor, Under 1% (maybe one in 400) of my memes are Fed Posts, harmless comedy :
The vast majority of these are mine, but I very rarely Fed Post :
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not mine , but relevant :
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- Pro tip - Keep a dog filled with tannerite in your home for when the ATF comes for your guns :
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fed post video : https://files.catbox.moe/d272al.mp4
stock art template i made : https://files.catbox.moe/pnydpf.jpg
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rare : sus FBI agents at an actual gay pride parade : https://files.catbox.moe/sohm2r.png
rare : FBI ip addy fuckup , caught shilling for ANOTHER new free speech honeypot : https://files.catbox.moe/yy3fd1.jpeg
fbi facts : https://files.catbox.moe/lwwdsr.png
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Dozens of Feds read this site : Feds : https://archive.ph/FGTLE
[ + ] KyleIsThisTall
[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 1 point 11 monthsMay 29, 2024 07:30:05 ago (+1/-0)
I've slept on the streets before. Heck, by choice just to save money or because I couldn't find a place I liked. It's like Boy Scouts. Has this man never camped?
I haven't been in contact with my family in 15 years - is this guy expecting me to believe that he has no one in his life to help him? Except, you know, all the government assistance they give to released convicts instead of people who have never been imprisoned and actually contribute to society.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 2 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 10:26:11 ago (+2/-0)
He might have been okay if he stopped after the first sentence, because it's just an opinion. (and true) "it’s open season on YOU" sounds a lot like a direct threat to shoot people.
He needs to invest in nose hair trimmers if he wants to find a job.
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 2 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 08:32:00 ago (+2/-0)
Can't have the plebs getting rowdy now can we? Time to call in the government and have him judged and sentenced by the same government all while we call it unbiased and fair.
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 2 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 07:10:27 ago (+2/-0)
These look entirely like broad statements.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 10:38:29 ago (+0/-0)
now = imminent
open season on YOU = clear threat
While it looks like some idiot blowing off steam, there actually are crazies who post threats and mean it. Also, why would the FBI not take offense at this? With the trump stuff and a threat that plausibly fits the description, 'fuck this guy'.
Keep 'violent rhetoric' at the opinion or belief level. "In my opinion, there should be an open season on them."
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 15:22:16 ago (+1/-0)
I'd say this combo is probably what got him.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 11 monthsMay 29, 2024 00:00:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] hylo
[ - ] hylo 0 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 11:31:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -1 points 11 monthsMay 28, 2024 07:02:57 ago (+0/-1)