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Most jobs that pay money in the US dont produce anything

submitted by SmallGuyFromBrooklyn to Rants 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 10:00:42 ago (+49/-0)     (Rants)

And im not saying this as someone who just had to pay hundreds to get their towed car back ... but then it got me thinking, why is this even a thing? I can understand the part where the car gets towed, but now a company can essentially steal your car over a few hundred bucks. If you dont pay it, fuck you, the car is ours now. You never own anything, since anything you own is so overtly commoditized it can be taken away for any reason or no reason. If you own a house, a lien can be used over property taxes or HOA, or whatever, and you are now SOL. No recourse, fuck you.

This got me thinking to the whacky liberal ideal that if you cant afford X you dont deserve to be in business. But most of their ideals are completely arbitrary and all over. If you cant afford to waste money hiring niggers, you dont deserve to be in business. But the question then is, what company can? If you cant afford 15$/hr then you deserve to go bankrupt. And yet liberals will scream they can never find a job. But when you look at it, their immensely retarded ideals caused their own demise. And yet if you ask any liberal, they simply can not link their own actions to consequences.

And when you look at the top paying fields: none of them producing anything. Finance is just moving fake numbers from one screen to another, insurance is moving contract law around to not pay out, lawyers go neurotic over man made contracts which have been broken for any or no reason because fuck you. Contract nullification makes this even weirded since one contract can say one thing but its invalid, but the rest of the contract is valid unless its not, but you need to spend thousands to figure out what the contract says.

Meanwhile the farmers, service workers, HVAC, and all the other fields that produce something of value pay close to nothing. This system can't go on like this forever, eventually it will be forced to downsize or collapse.


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[ - ] Crackinjokes 12 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 10:29:45 ago (+12/-0)*

Very thoughtful commentary. You must be a white European non-jew.

It's definitely interesting and I would say the reason this happens is Jews control the media which then controls the societal norms which then sets the baseline for how people think and Jews profit the most from exactly the kind of industries that you are pointing out correctly pay the most and so instead of having social media and regular media out there bragging about how the day labor who has actually building a brick house is making $200,000 a year and the stupid insurance salesman or the finance guy who's just shuffling paperwork back and forth in a computer you know is making $25,000 a year we get the opposite because the Jews profit the most from the stuff that doesn't produce anything. I think we have to step back and look at our whole mind view of the world and recognize just how much of it is manufactured. Why for example do we look at the guy putting bricks in a wall that is actually building something it takes at least as much skill as pushing buttons in a computer in a finance department somewhere why don't we say and think in our mind that that bricklayer is an amazing millionaire and if only everybody could get those jobs they'd be millionaires too? And I think the answer is societal conditioning that is driven by the Jew and the media the Jew puts out to make sure that their fields are always the ones that make the most money and are the most highly thought of.


And I think a lot of people are going to say but wait a minute anybody could bricklayer. But that's actually not true. That again is one of these mind frames that we have been given by the media but it's actually not true. It's actually difficult to be a good fast efficient bricklayer and a very small percentage of the population can actually do that. Not to mention the fact that sometimes you've got to do it in extreme heat and cold. So it takes a certain physical fitness even be able to do the job just like being a top athlete in some pro football team. Yet we think for some reason that just anybody could do it. Part of that reason is because there's not any formal education required but why is there formal education required to say be a top Wall Street executive. Only because the gatekeeper Jews have required that. the actual amount of knowledge needed to actually do a lot of the top financial jobs in Wall Street is very small. We think it's large because they only hire people who are mbas so we think it must take the accumulation of all the knowledge from first grade all the way through post college postgraduate degree to do that job but if you actually go into a finance department and see what they actually do they do about 10 things and they do them consistently with about 10 rules and you could have gone to a school for one week having no other prior education except the ability to read write and do basic math and you could have been taught those 10 rules in one week and you would know all you need to do to do to be a top finance guy. The rest is all social construct. and that social construct is created by the Jew making media and television programs about financial traders making millions of dollars which makes everybody want to be one which makes them be able to demand having an MBA before you can do it which makes it very convenient for the Jew because the Jews who run the schools will let more Jews and then they will gentiles and to run the programs and then if they do let a gentile in the gentile feels very privileged to get the job and they can pay the gentile very little money compared to how much money they're stealing for the Jews who actually own all the finance companies in the banks and all the Wall Street brokerage houses that are doing and profiting the most from the stealing people.

[ - ] albatrosv15 3 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 15:51:14 ago (+3/-0)

Ahh, a local ai.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 17:47:42 ago (+1/-0)

You can use my term if you want.

It's the MEEPAC

MEDIA ENTERTAINMENT EDUCATION PORN ADVERTISING COMPLEX

that is the jews brainwashing system in a nutshell

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:37:24 ago (+0/-0)*

Why for example do we look at the guy putting bricks in a wall...

Isn't that the point of a wall? I'm sure you're supposed to put them in one if it isn't built.

[ - ] Stonkmar 7 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 10:48:58 ago (+7/-0)

A lot of careers are simply 'playing' the game of work. A lot of middlemen are there only to push paperwork to the next up middleman. Beuracracy just for the sake of it; all under the pretense of meaningful work.
I have two jobs: one is internet based, the other produces a physical object that others can use. Only one of them, at the end of the day, creates a feeling of accomplishment.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:42:41 ago (+1/-0)

::raises hand::

Ohhh ohhh! I know this one! It's the one were you sit and eat at your desk and stare at a computer screen and listen to a fat obese sheboon in the next cubicle over tell you how racist the company is because she's surrounded by hoooowyte devolz dat ain seesoninupawney cheese gritz ryyyte! Only to be told the Saturday you had off you need to come in to work.

[ - ] dulcima 3 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 18:03:50 ago (+3/-0)

Good post. I've thought about this issue more than once, as my libshit city practically functions around these fake jobs.

I work (peripherally) in an area where criminal shitskins are referred off to a slew of migrant type services - all created as a result of multiculturalism. These departments and companies ought not exist and should not exist - all sucking up tax dollars and creating more and more problems.

This shit is destroying the West.

[ - ] canbot 2 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 16:42:03 ago (+2/-0)

What you are describing is called rent seeking. It is part of all government and has existed from the beginning of time under every type of social structure. Aristocrats entire existence was just rent seeking. Today jews do it more than anyone, but it predates jews.

The problem is you are incorrectly identifying everything you dont like as rent seeking.

Towing companies exist because people refuse to obey parking restrictions and without enforcement we all lose the ability to have parking restrictions. The result of that kind of society is the chaos you see in shithole countries.

Different people have different feelings about different types of rent seeking. For example young morons often hate landlords and feel they should be given free housing and no one should have the right to rent out any space for living. That's obviously stupid, but it is also a type of rent seeking.

A lot of people here seem to be making claims that white collar jobs are less valuable, and easier to do than blue collar jobs. That's only true if you have the intelligence for it. Most people don't, but with the lower intelligence they also lack the ability to identify higher intelligence, and they don't understand what is going wrong when their lack of intelligence causes problems.

Blue collar jobs pay a lot, especially once you start working for yourself. If you are not working for yourself you have to underrated that a lot of the money is going to pay others to do all the business side things that you are not doing.

But the main point is that everything that does not produce a widget is not rent seeking. Most jobs are service jobs, that includes blue collar work.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:46:46 ago (+0/-0)

If you are not working for yourself you have to underrated that a lot of the money is going to pay others to do all the business side things that you are not doing

Am I reading this right? Sounds like somethings missing.

[ - ] canbot 0 points 3 weeksMay 24, 2024 03:46:57 ago (+0/-0)

When you work as an HVAC tech for 4seasons you get paid $30/hr to do the work. The customer pays $300/hr for you to do the work. They handle everything to do with getting customers, scheduling, legal, etc, etc, and etc. There is a lot that most people have no clue about. Getting people to call your company over another is not trivial.

When you become an independent HVAC guy you get paind the full $300/hr. But you also have to start your own business, buy all your own equipment, handle all the people who don't pay or try to sue you, get customers who trust 4 seasons more to call you instead for some reason. etc, etc, and etc.

By any measure independent HVAC guys are making a killing so long as they can find work. The same goes for all the trades.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 15:32:57 ago (+2/-0)

Isn't it wild how the symbols of communism, the hammer and sickle, represent the construction, manufacturing, and agriculture workers who produce the vast majority of what we want and need, but the commie left fucks those people over every step of the way to help people who don't work and people whose work produces nothing?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 19:38:23 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:50:05 ago (+0/-0)

Not wild, planned.

[ - ] edmundo 2 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 10:43:10 ago (+2/-0)

As a lawyer (not USA) I also quite often think that what I'm doing is sometimes ridiculous and I definitely don't build anything. On the other hand - there are plenty of people (individuals and businesses) that need my services. However - quite often they need my services because the man - made rules are so complicated and can be interpreted in so many various ways, that even experienced lawyers have no idea how a particular case will end up and what the final result will be.

[ - ] canbot 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 16:48:41 ago (+1/-0)

rules are so complicated and can be interpreted in so many various ways

The reality is that it only seems like laws are hard to "interpret" because the judicial system is corrupt. Some people break the laws and get away with it because they are connected enough to corrupt the system. Part of that is putting on a show as a smokescreen for the corruption. So the all participate in a charade where one party puts out a convoluted argument and the other party buys it so they can all pretend the argument made the difference and not the corruption.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:49:19 ago (+1/-0)

that even experienced lawyers have no idea how a particular case will end up and what the final result will be.

On purpose.

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 0 points 3 weeksMay 25, 2024 00:48:57 ago (+0/-0)

Have you ever dealt with a gubamint contract? You need to write up the equivalency of the encyclopedia brittanica just to change a fucking doorknob in a va hospital.

[ - ] DiogenesTheCynic 0 points 3 weeksMay 24, 2024 16:50:09 ago (+0/-0)

Most jobs do not do "productive labor" which is only farming, mining, or manufacture. Its actually silly how top-heavy the U.S. is.

[ - ] Salacious_Salicylic 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 15:13:22 ago (+1/-0)

Billions will starve when it finally falls down.

Mostly niggers and curryniggers lol

[ - ] 2plus2equals5 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 15:03:21 ago (+1/-0)*

The compensation pay ratio for lowest-to highest is something like 1:500 in Japan.
It is something like 1:10,000 in the USA.
(please fact-check this)

In that other country everyone is expected to work as hard as they are able.
Top tier management, or janitor, no slackers are accepted.
Working to death is expected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi
Even thieving jew CEOs have to escape in suitcases: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/carlos-ghosn-three-jailed-helping-ex-nissan-ceo-escape-japan-n1258759

Meanwhile Billy Joel blames his blond supermodel shiksa wife for being wealthy. In NYC. On the MTV. Three times an hour.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:48:18 ago (+0/-0)

TIL MTV is still around.

[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 3 weeksMay 24, 2024 03:52:44 ago (+0/-0)

Construction and farming produce things, but rely on illegal immigrants to function

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:35:47 ago (+0/-0)

they simply can not link their own actions to consequences.

Because none of their thoughts and ideals are their own. They look to echo chambers for advice to justify the mental gymnastics they want affirmed.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:17:41 ago (+0/-0)

People are starting to realize that without violence, the whole thing is just a long running, large version of Calvinball.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 21:44:56 ago (+0/-0)

Most jobs are created through unnecessary laws and government licensing. And most of those jobs go to women. Not only are women being removed from the home, they're not even useful slaves. They're just being moved from one building to the next and forced to toil on meaningless garbage like a prisoner smashing rocks.

[ - ] solomonpapermaster 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 21:38:10 ago (+0/-0)

I've always said that a potato farmers produces more and is more useful to humanity than an investment banker.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:59:03 ago (+0/-0)

Slainte!

[ - ] Moravian 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 20:04:00 ago (+0/-0)

I agree. Also I would add that the word "work" has been hijacked. Working means you're doing some physical labor, like a mechanic, construction worker, etc. Sitting at a computer or office shuffling papers is employment not work.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 18:46:26 ago (+0/-0)*

Close to nothing my ass.
$150 an hour is a fucking expectation now for a 19 year old kid to come to my house and figure out something he has no idea how to do.
I wanted a minisplit hvac installed, the high bid wanted $700 AN HOUR to do the job - when asked about this he claimed he had overhead to account for...
Fuck that noise.
This shit is so well known that even south park did an episode on it.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:51:33 ago (+0/-0)

This shit is so well known that even south park did an episode on it.

Installing a mini split or jewing people on price?

[ - ] HatefulHomelessMan 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 17:15:46 ago (+0/-0)

At one of my jobs I take a bunch of things out of plastic bags and wrap them individually in plastic cling-wrap for a couple hours. I hope you like microplastics, because all of that plastic gets sent to a landfill or whatever.

[ - ] Not_C 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 16:15:16 ago (+0/-0)

What you're talking about is "The Service Sector" of the economy.

Primary sector - Raw materials are extracted or gathered. Examples - Mining, agriculture, etc.
Secondary, or manufacturing sector - Creates finished goods.
The third category is the service sector.

In 2021, the services sector contributed around 77.6 percent to the GDP of the United States.

OVER 3/4 of the US economy does not produce raw materials or finished goods.

While a country does need a service sector and (as one example) people to stock grocery store shelves - It can be said that 22.4% of the American economy subsidises the other 77.6%.

[ - ] Localuser 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 15:15:36 ago (+0/-0)

People always blabber on about living in a simulation. Look no further than actual real life, it’s all fake and gay. Most fake and gay rules are made by do nothing parasite individuals.
I would say 80% of society doesn’t produce jack shit. It’s the 20% like us that are in the trenches actually making the wheels turn in this world.

[ - ] vol09877 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 14:43:09 ago (+0/-0)

why are you looking for logic in whatever democrats do? democrats arent people, but brain dead drones

[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 14:10:25 ago (+0/-0)

HVAC actually pays pretty good. Most hvac guys can clear 6 figures if they're good at what they do. I work heavy equipment field repair and even as a W2 employee I wax clearing 150k. Now that I have my own LLC, the callout rate is $200 minimum with milage plus surcharges for nights and weekends.

Granted this type of work tears you up. I'm working on hiring a few guys in the coming years to run my spare rig and take some load off. Eventually the plan is just to just supervise and dispatch and only get in there when SHTF. But even still my guys will not be getting ripped off being paid $30/hr on a $200 rate. Oh maybe helpers will make that much but i have always believed 30% of ticket rate is fair pay which in this case is $60/hr.

There's money in certain industries that aren't glamorous or sexy to some and require you get up off your ass and get dirty. The problem is everybody wants that soft hand free check now. Anything that's easy office money is basically a death sentence career wise.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 22:57:43 ago (+0/-0)

30 is pretty good starting out. Do you train or do employees need 5 years experience with an minor in astrophysics like job listings in Australia?

[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 3 weeksMay 24, 2024 04:39:24 ago (+0/-0)

A mechanical helper/ trainee will need at least some type of demonstrated mechanical aptitude. Doesn't have to be the end all of training or experience but I'd rather not waste my time training someone who it won't stick to.

[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 14:02:48 ago (+0/-0)*

There has been a trend in business - and I mean it's a trend, like any other - to start prioritizing "business intelligence". There is this idea, in part due to misconceptions about machine learning and "big data", that the key to competitive intelligence today is to be the best at gathering and interpreting lots and lots of data. So naturally, given computing power and all of the latest fancy-pants softwares for visualizing data, the trend has seen the highest-paying jobs become roles which either program these software "solutions" or use them competently to do a lot of internal housekeeping. (To motivate that intuition, ask yourself how quickly the mobile app market peaked, and how much of the current innovation results in any really great products, i.e., things that move the needle in your life, instead of just helping you organize things you had previously gone without organizing. You'll probably find that the way to create positive impressions about this functionality is to first cause you to think you need to complicate your life.)

It isn't clear at all that this trend has actually resulted in better decision-making, if our metric is meaningful outcomes. I think a lot of people get the effects of consolidation of ownership and monopolistic competition confused with the effects of so-called better decision-making. In fact, we're watching companies make downright awful decisions left and right, which are in large part facilitated by the decrease in industry-specific competition. So, figuring out where the upsides exist (if they exist at all) is an absolute quagmire. I think the obscurity of these so-called upsides, rather, the difficulty in establishing causal relations to explain them, is another reason this trend is continuing. It's more ideological than scientific, if you ask me.

But I know plenty of people who know a smidge of "high-level" programming, but are competent with the softwares that have certain industries cornered, who are making $150k or more annually, and their jobs usually have names that include words like "analyst". You find out that what they do all day is basically generate reports, and these drive BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE. Other than that, various fields are run amuck with all kinds of consulting services. These businesses charge high-dollar for more BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE. I knew one person working for a "data-driven" consultancy that was paid almost half-a-million dollars to consult a pharmaceutical company on answering the following question: "Where is the best place online to advertise our drug for protecting homosexuals from HIV?"

After 3 months, their answer turned out to be the dating app devoted to gay people. This is the sort of thing that, decades ago, would have been decided by a marketing leader internally and with a much more efficient process. So, it's not clear to me at all that the return on investment for these BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE spends is really efficient at the end of the day. Instead, I think competition is dwindling, so more room for inefficiencies is being created, and this permits upper management to operate under the misgivings that expanding all of these "internally directed" business functions looks good for business. This all combines within a complex soup that includes the fact that universities are teeming with people who need jobs, who expect certain kinds of jobs for all of their high education, and who are entering a culture that thinks "good" jobs are corporate, office-bound roles that somehow orbit BUSINESS DECISION-MAKING. Expanding the complexity of the bureacracy can also be viewed a couple of ways from the standpoint of any given middle-manager: (a) your job safety increases because you can show this whole layout you've established for making safer decisions and pass the blame onto those responsible (be they internal or outside consultants), and (b) simply being responsible for more complicated staff and processes looks, in itself, like greater competence.

There is also the element of liability. Because of this artificial DEI movement (and the environmental movement), companies are having to overhaul and expand existing infrastructure for ensuring they are meeting legal standards. Human resources departments have exploded because of this, and there are millions of jobs in this country dedicated just to this kind of housekeeping, i.e., for assuring completely artifical standards are being met in order to protect the company. This, in turn, feeds the consolidation of ownership and capital in the economy because only the "monsters" of industry tend to have the buffering capacity for handling these increased needs. This also goes for the environmental shit.

And all of this is occurring within the even broader trend of the financialization of the nation's economy (and the global one, too). Capital is accruing in centers constituted by already-wealthy speculators who are all well-connected and operate playing a game of insider trading. The rest of our society is being pulled by their gravity into an orbit around them of developing and using softwares that help them gamble better. And to do that, they simplify the competitive environment through ownership consolidation so that in, say, the entertainment industry, you force the livestock (that's us) into certain fenced-in areas that make the risks these financiers take a lot more predictable.

Finally, the way this trend is talked about is very relevant. This is where I think people like Elon Musk, and some other examples of prop companies, play a major role. They want people to avoid noticing how actual capital is being consolidated into the hands of a few, while the majority of workers are just playing around generating reports all day. They need people to see the future a certain way in order to avoid them seeing the obvious: that they own less, they produce nothing, and they are just busy-bees for a bunch of Jews vacuuming up all the real assets. They need people to see the future as one dominated by A.I. and computers, where being someone important increasingly means working at consoles all day. If people can be made to think that's the future, and that this is what educated, sophisticated people do, they'll march happily into this future. At the end of day, most people operate on the wavelength of attempting to maximize (i) their status locally, among friends and family and (ii) the status conveyed by the words and pictures in their online profiles. Like, the number of people who would push a button for Corporation X that would drop a bomb on some foreign country, just so they can have that job role listed on their LinkedIn page, would shock you. But look how much money he is making, bro.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 23:01:31 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] BoozyB 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 14:02:23 ago (+0/-0)

Most modern jobs exist to give the deluded masses an illusion of prosperity, allow the (((bankers))) to collect interest on money wasted buying the the latest useless thing promoted by (((advertising))) in the (((media))), and what's left is confiscated by (((government))) in taxes.

All explained in one sentence .

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 13:00:08 ago (+0/-0)

No recourse, fuck you.

You could physically damage or destroy your attackers. But most are caught up in the fantasy of modern jewish society. It's the herd-management tool that converts humans into the cattle in their mocking meme.

[ - ] GreenSaint 1 point 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 14:41:16 ago (+1/-0)

First step to fighting the reptilians aka Jews is to patrol your neighborhood with firearms and shoot every cat you find.

[ - ] Hermes 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 12:56:19 ago (+0/-0)

only counter is medical doctors who are a necessity

[ - ] CoronaHoax 0 points 3 weeksMay 23, 2024 11:22:55 ago (+0/-0)

Libs ain’t the majority. And if we secede they definitely aren’t the majority. Conservatives are the problem. They beat around the bush all day instead of solving their problems.