That context is also missing context. Only 8 3x vaxxed kids died huh? How many 3x vaxxed kids were there? 9? 20?
As opposed to the unvaxxed children, which is almost certainly a larger population.
I did some analysis on this data set (so the 1/1/21 to 10/31/21 set from here a few years ago and found that vaccinated kids are, at best, [equally-likely to die (1 dose, anyway) as unvaccinated and, at worst, several-times more likely to die as unvaccinated.](https://files.catbox.moe/kidmmp.JPG')" class="expand" href="https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31october2021/referencetable31.xlsx">this data set (so the 1/1/21 to 10/31/21 set from here a few years ago and found that vaccinated kids are, at best, [equally-likely to die (1 dose, anyway) as unvaccinated and, at worst, several-times more likely to die as unvaccinated.](https://files.catbox.moe/kidmmp.JPG">https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31october2021/referencetable31.xlsx">this data set (so the 1/1/21 to 10/31/21 set from here a few years ago and found that vaccinated kids are, at best, [equally-likely to die (1 dose, anyway) as unvaccinated and, at worst, several-times more likely to die as unvaccinated.](https://files.catbox.moe/kidmmp.JPG)
The main takeaway here is the confounding variables. For one, the sample sizes of vaxed:unvaxed are off by 1-3 orders of magnitude (so comparisons need a grain of salt). Second, we don't know if these children are a matched sample or not; presumably not apart from age, but did they match demographics, health status/history? Probably not. But the fact that you have ~1/14000 unvaxed kids dying vs. ~1/5000 ever-vaxed kids dying from any cause certainly warrants further investigation and answers to those questions.
For example, there were only four 2x vaxed 10-14 y.o. kids that died in my data set vs. the 96 unvaxed kids that died, right? Looks pretty bad for the unvaxed... except that there were 2 fucking million unvaxed person-years in the study (so many more kids and/or studied much longer) versus the just ~1700 person-years of the 2x vaxed. That's a factor of ~1250x more person-years in the unvaxxed. So if you scale that up, that'd be about 5,000 2x vaxed deaths in the same amount of person-years... which again, is hard to extrapolate from such a small sample, but it certainly warrants further examination we can agree, yes?
What the rude dude meant to say was: Look up the data for yourself. If this really matters to you, sit down and spend a couple hours reading through things.
I spent dozens of hours diving into Covid-related data and reports when it was a big topic because it was relevant and important to how I would conduct myself. Now, choices were already made by all. Either people die or they don't. So, I'm going to file this report away for future evaluation if needed but otherwise spend my time on more immediately pressing issues.
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The reader context is for morons like yourself.
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As opposed to the unvaxxed children, which is almost certainly a larger population.
I did some analysis on this data set (so the 1/1/21 to 10/31/21 set from here a few years ago and found that vaccinated kids are, at best, [equally-likely to die (1 dose, anyway) as unvaccinated and, at worst, several-times more likely to die as unvaccinated.](https://files.catbox.moe/kidmmp.JPG')" class="expand" href="https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31october2021/referencetable31.xlsx">this data set (so the 1/1/21 to 10/31/21 set from here a few years ago and found that vaccinated kids are, at best, [equally-likely to die (1 dose, anyway) as unvaccinated and, at worst, several-times more likely to die as unvaccinated.](https://files.catbox.moe/kidmmp.JPG">https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31october2021/referencetable31.xlsx">this data set (so the 1/1/21 to 10/31/21 set from here a few years ago and found that vaccinated kids are, at best, [equally-likely to die (1 dose, anyway) as unvaccinated and, at worst, several-times more likely to die as unvaccinated.](https://files.catbox.moe/kidmmp.JPG
The main takeaway here is the confounding variables. For one, the sample sizes of vaxed:unvaxed are off by 1-3 orders of magnitude (so comparisons need a grain of salt). Second, we don't know if these children are a matched sample or not; presumably not apart from age, but did they match demographics, health status/history? Probably not. But the fact that you have ~1/14000 unvaxed kids dying vs. ~1/5000 ever-vaxed kids dying from any cause certainly warrants further investigation and answers to those questions.
For example, there were only four 2x vaxed 10-14 y.o. kids that died in my data set vs. the 96 unvaxed kids that died, right? Looks pretty bad for the unvaxed... except that there were 2 fucking million unvaxed person-years in the study (so many more kids and/or studied much longer) versus the just ~1700 person-years of the 2x vaxed. That's a factor of ~1250x more person-years in the unvaxxed. So if you scale that up, that'd be about 5,000 2x vaxed deaths in the same amount of person-years... which again, is hard to extrapolate from such a small sample, but it certainly warrants further examination we can agree, yes?
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I spent dozens of hours diving into Covid-related data and reports when it was a big topic because it was relevant and important to how I would conduct myself. Now, choices were already made by all. Either people die or they don't. So, I'm going to file this report away for future evaluation if needed but otherwise spend my time on more immediately pressing issues.
Good luck.