I've gone sober six times and never made it 13 weeks. People try to tell me I'm obsessing over the 3 month line but I'm telling you something happens after 85 or so days that makes you comfortable with drinking again. Very dangerous time and I have been feeling it these past couple days to be honest. Probably the heat. This Florida heat is intense and you know it's gonna be here until November.
Alcohol seems like a faraway vacation instead of a recent everyday presence. It looks remote and not threatening. In that delusion I feel like I would control it this time. But if I have one, I will drink for a year straight. I know it from looking back at all the times I was sober and in control and started drinking 2 per night.
Yeah you can do 2 per night, but probably never skip a day (guaranteed), and then there is a big night somewhere. Then another big night. Then boom it's been months and you have a 10 per day habit, sometimes 15 or more. As soon as you realize you have to ramp down again you remember that first drink after 80 something days sober, it's very funny except a lot of people die.
Edit: Thanks for the Voat aa meeting I have a long way to go and am still pretty much a drunk faggot
Prayers for you, bud. I heard somewhere that the temptations come at intervals. Something like 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, etc. Stay strong and know that once you get past it, it will get easier.
Sounds like your primary problem is not the alcohol itself, but the fact that you desire it so much. Just not drinking is not fixing whatever is actually wrong. Find someone to help you fix that problem or you'll be on the edge of relapse forever.
Disulfiram produces very unpleasant side effects when combined with alcohol in the body. Disulfiram is used in certain people with chronic alcoholism.
I can tell by yesterday that I still have an infant child kicking around in my head. Very on edge, entitled and angry. I don't work hard enough at changing that.
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 14:38:48 ago (+1/-0)
That's what I'm saying. Hypnosis, CBT, and NLP are some tools that might help with repairs. The biggest challenge with any kind of therapy is finding a skilled user who also is compatible with you. Might be worth the time and effort if the alternative is being on the edge of drunken alcoholism the rest of your life. You might also want to think about whether the alcoholism is the only effect that's having on you.
It you had a hard upbringing and abuse as a child which is very common in people who struggle with alcohol then EMDR may help. Also increasing your emotion regulation (dialetical behaviour therapy). You may drink because it is the only thing you know that will make you feel relaxed. So find ways to relax such as belly breathing.
Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing sounds like an expanded version of NLP eye accessing processes. Could work with problems based on memorable past events.
Temporarily substitute some other beverage like a soda, seltzer, smoothie, chocholate milk and do some distracting activity like along walk or hike or shooting range. Remember that thw jew wants you drunk and addicted. You are fighting an actual enemy.
When I was a kid I watched grown men suck down half-gallons of Ancient Age (a cheap Canadian whiskey), then turn their face and puke until they passed out... Sometimes if I was lucky I could catch the stream with a trashcan before it hit the floor. What you should do is burn the odor of puked-up liquor into your subconscious so that when you smell alcohol it triggers a wave of nausea. (Cleaning up after drunks is what cured me of ever being one and is the primary reason I only smoke weed on a regular basis.)
3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years. These are the major hurdles that will catch you if you aren't vigilant. Congratulations but dint relax. Alcohol is a nigger.
haven't gone 90 days since I was 14. My nightly ritual habitual includes 3 or 4 molson ice and a glass of wine. The occasional benadryl if I still ain't ready to conk out. ..At least this routine doesn't include the benzo's anymore -finally dropped the lorazepam about a year ago after literally 25 years of taking it nightly for sleep. Had a doctor landlord when I was in my late 20's, told him I was a chronic insomniac so he throws me a huge plastic baggie filled with valium, says "try these". I did and low and behold they WORKED. Like a champ. For 25 long years and could NOT sleep without one. Thank God I kicked that habit. I do take a little CBD, that helps (yeah. I know I have issues). Lost many a friend to the booze. One of best buddies croaked back in 21. GRanted he was in and out of the hospital so much back then, you know was was stuck with 1/2 dozen covid vaxx jabs, but he was a COMPLETE drunk. Was like the older brother I never wanted when I was growing up. AT the end he was drinking a 5th of smirnoff blue a day (at least). I lend him my car when his truck shit the bed, was supposed to be for couple of days. A week and 1/2 later I am chasing him down to get it back, he finally pulls in my driveway at 8:30 AM and finishes a pint of smirnoff on my couch. While driving him home he has me stop at the liquor store, gets another one and that is gone by the time we pull into his mothers driveway (dude was in his mid 50's still living at home). When he finally kicked the bucket he was homeless, no one could take him. Burned every bridge that he ever had. Died in my sisters camper in her back yard.
[ - ] NeonGreen 1 point 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 16:55:42 ago (+1/-0)
So. I've stuggle with the over the last decade.
I yanked entire years sober. Something happens from month 4-6 and once you cross that line. It's done. Physically at least.
Call it a relapse after 5 months sober last week. Well I was only drunk a night. I just don't like it anymore. I don't like feeling that way. It's a control that comes after a year sober.
Question is,..is what are you doing different this time to avoid a relapse? I hear of people who have been sober for ten years and out of nowhere the urge to take that FIRST drink jumps up. You must stay vigilant always. This is a powerful disease. For many it has to be a constant reminder that first drink could kill them. Do you have someone you can call if you're feeling a relapse coming on?
[ - ] Dindu [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 13:59:31 ago (+1/-0)*
This is the real stuff you're talking mr leveraction but I don't have any good answers. I could start using the program. The people around me are undermining to be honest. I don't think they mean to be. Everyone is so panicked by the economy I don't think they realize what they're saying, or what I'm saying lol. I'm surrounded by defensive types I think and it's very difficult to break through that first layer and have a normal conversation. I might need to find some strong people
"I'm surrounded by defensive types I think and it's very difficult to break through that first layer and have a normal conversation.". You might never have a normal conversation with those who do not understand the disease and thats ok, just know not to call them when you're having a "volnerable" moment. Making your sobriety the number one priority of your life is key and you gotta fight for it every 24 hours. You can do it!!! Your desire for alcohol lessons over time. It's ok to have those sweets for now. Best of luck!
There is no chance of drinking for now. I think this time I am possibly not crazy anymore and I might be able to keep this up for years. The other times I just wanted to get to these landmarks like 90 days and I think it set me up for failure. This time I just intend not to drink ever again.
90 days is the negative consequences fading into a distant memory. Remind yourself why you quit. Think of all the progress you'll flush down the drain by starting up again. You know you won't stop at one.
You're also probably bored and looking for a high. Go for a run or work out, it will do the same thing.
I'm about 6 years off alcohol and almost a year of not smoking. Resist the temptation tonight and in the morning you'll be so glad you did.
Have problems with alcohol too. I'm on naltrexone. You may wanna try it. It inhibits the cravings and the dopamine response to alcohol. It's a good way to self taper as the days go by you drink less and less until you just don't care about it because you feel so much better without it.
God, please direct my thinking. I pray that I will stay humble and not forget that I am just a drunk, sober today through the grace of God and the program of AA.”
[ - ] Dindu [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 15:46:56 ago (+1/-0)
Some people go daily to a place just to talk about drinking. They get a list of numbers to call about drinking and book to read about drinking. I have said a few things about being sober over the last 3 months yes faggot
Just don’t do it nigger. I’m not sober and probably never will be for various reasons. If you’ve been sober this long you should absolutely stick with it. Get some weed gummies or something. Just don’t drink.
I think these milemarkers, while important, are the wrong thing to have in mind. The way to get through it is to recognize it's just one more day like the last 90.
If that's the case a pint of ice cream will do the trick. The boost of sugar will also mimic the alcohol when it also turns into sugar, satisfying at least one physical craving.
[ - ] Dindu [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 13:55:11 ago (+1/-0)
I've been pretty disciplined with the ice cream too. This half gallon of moose tracks has lasted me almost 2 weeks. At first I used pop tarts which are insanely sugary and should not be eaten
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
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[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 14 points 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 12:24:26 ago (+14/-0)
Stay strong and know that once you get past it, it will get easier.
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[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 10 points 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 12:22:27 ago (+10/-0)
You might not want to risk resetting the count just yet.
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A stopgap prophylactic in the meantime.
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Remember that thw jew wants you drunk and addicted. You are fighting an actual enemy.
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--Sobriety is its own reward. I hope you have had enough of it. The jew wants us addicted to anything and everything.
[ + ] Dindu
[ - ] Dindu [op] 2 points 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 15:33:34 ago (+2/-0)
Thanks a_e
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[ - ] NeonGreen 1 point 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 16:55:42 ago (+1/-0)
I yanked entire years sober. Something happens from month 4-6 and once you cross that line. It's done. Physically at least.
Call it a relapse after 5 months sober last week. Well I was only drunk a night. I just don't like it anymore. I don't like feeling that way. It's a control that comes after a year sober.
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[ + ] Leveraction
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And remember.. don't drink today dammit!
[ + ] Dindu
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[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 0 points 11 monthsMay 18, 2024 04:08:28 ago (+0/-0)
Just tell yourself the truth:
Booze, just like weed and drugs, is for niggers and White trash. Then, when you feel the urge to drink, ask yourself: “Am I a nigger?”
[ + ] Endo_Aryan
[ - ] Endo_Aryan 0 points 11 monthsMay 18, 2024 00:37:02 ago (+0/-0)
You're also probably bored and looking for a high. Go for a run or work out, it will do the same thing.
I'm about 6 years off alcohol and almost a year of not smoking. Resist the temptation tonight and in the morning you'll be so glad you did.
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Bottoms up!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
Mmmmmm ice cold beer good.
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You know which one you want in life.
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This is why you have always and will always fail.
[ + ] Dindu
[ - ] Dindu [op] 0 points 11 monthsMay 17, 2024 19:03:23 ago (+0/-0)
Ok! Weird stuff jew!